IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
gargaMONK
post Jun 29 2012, 08:35 PM
Post #1


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 34
Joined: 5-March 09
From: Atlanta, GA
Member No.: 16,946



I play a possession mage (yeah) and in an effort to share the fun with my teammates, I tend to avoid possession metahumans. Having set that stricture upon myself, I'm interested in prepared vessels for my spirits. So...

Can you recommend a vessel choice that works particularly well for you? I'm most interested in portability, durability, and economy, but I'm open to suggestion.

Alternately, do you have any good stories from runs that hinged on a clever possession?

Here are my favorite so far:

Bust-A-Move drone (ARS p117) - An object vessel that
QUOTE
can do anything the vessel can do normally. A car vessel can drive and play the radio (SM p87)
Portability: 5/5; Durability 2/5; Economy: 5/5 Cons: May require dis-assembly/re-assembly to enchant. Roll is
QUOTE
Enchanting + Magic (Object Resistance x 3, 1 day) Extended Test and two refined or one radical reagent per 10 kilograms


Hawk (RW p99)
Portability: 4/5; Durability: 2/5; Economy: 1/5 Pro: Can be healed. Roll is
QUOTE
Enchanting + Magic (vessel’s Willpower [2], 1 day) Extended Test and two refined or one radical reagent
Con: I'd like to be able to take it with me, and without Biodrone modification, I can't rely on stealth / discretion. That means it would cost a minimum of 500 for the hawk, plus 45k for the CAST mod.

Both of these examples are small and relatively unimpressive, but then really benefit from the possession stat boost.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tymeaus Jalynsfe...
post Jun 29 2012, 08:40 PM
Post #2


Prime Runner Ascendant
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 17,568
Joined: 26-March 09
From: Aurora, Colorado
Member No.: 17,022



Small Animals?

Rat, Cat, Dog, Squirrel, Pigeon, etc. These all sound like solid choices for a possession Mage. And they are just lying around on the streets.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Aerospider
post Jul 1 2012, 11:15 AM
Post #3


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,150
Joined: 15-December 09
Member No.: 17,968



How about an emotitoy drone? Just imagine one of those little fellas launching itself from your lapel to pound the living crap out of someone, shouting "How do you feel now, bitch?!!".
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Elfenlied
post Jul 1 2012, 11:59 AM
Post #4


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 973
Joined: 8-January 10
Member No.: 18,018



Plasteel Homonculus
Portability 3/5, Durability 5/5, Economoy 3/5, Pro: Very strong when possessed by a spirit with Energy Aura. Con: Heavy

Flying Eye
Portability 5/5, Durability 1/5, Economy 5/5, Pro: Flight-capable vessel (for air, fire and ally spirits), hard to spot, repairable with "Fix" spell. Con: Squishy

Corpse
Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Aerospider
post Jul 1 2012, 12:27 PM
Post #5


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,150
Joined: 15-December 09
Member No.: 17,968



QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jul 1 2012, 12:59 PM) *
Corpse ... Available on-the-spot

Lol - it really says something when 'requires murdering someone' isn't considered an availability limitation worth mentioning!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Halinn
post Jul 1 2012, 12:32 PM
Post #6


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,018
Joined: 3-July 10
Member No.: 18,786



QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jul 1 2012, 02:27 PM) *
Lol - it really says something when 'requires murdering someone' isn't considered an availability limitation worth mentioning!


Yes, what is says is that you're playing Shadowrun. Now go murder some hobos for your spirits.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Stahlseele
post Jul 1 2012, 12:36 PM
Post #7


The ShadowComedian
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,538
Joined: 3-October 07
From: Hamburg, AGS
Member No.: 13,525



Can a Spirit possess another spirit? O.o
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Elfenlied
post Jul 1 2012, 01:34 PM
Post #8


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 973
Joined: 8-January 10
Member No.: 18,018



QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jul 1 2012, 12:27 PM) *
Lol - it really says something when 'requires murdering someone' isn't considered an availability limitation worth mentioning!


To be fair, I did mention "social stigma" in the cons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
gargaMONK
post Jul 1 2012, 03:00 PM
Post #9


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 34
Joined: 5-March 09
From: Atlanta, GA
Member No.: 16,946



Thanks for the responses! I think I've already learned something.

It seems like two main categories are emerging.

"Vessel-on-the-fly"
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 29 2012, 04:40 PM) *
Small Animals: Rat, Cat, Dog, Squirrel, Pigeon,
I like Rat/Pigeon in particular here, because they're everywhere and would hardly be looked at twice.

also

QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jul 1 2012, 07:59 AM) *
Corpse
Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma
Step 1, murder. Step 2 just add spirit!

Prepared vessels
QUOTE
Plasteel Homonculus/Flying Eye

emotitoy drone


So it seems like the emergent strategy would be to enchant your hard-to-possess mechanical vessels ahead of time, then be opportunistic with animals that are around. Perhaps that should have been more evident to me from the system, but it wasn't.

QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 1 2012, 08:36 AM) *
Can a Spirit possess another spirit? O.o
I am 99% positive that they cannot. Possession occupies a body, which most spirits don't have, only manifestations. MAYBE inhabited spirit hybrid forms. Wait... you were kidding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Stahlseele
post Jul 1 2012, 03:11 PM
Post #10


The ShadowComedian
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,538
Joined: 3-October 07
From: Hamburg, AGS
Member No.: 13,525



Materialisation, physical entity, possession!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Elfenlied
post Jul 1 2012, 03:13 PM
Post #11


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 973
Joined: 8-January 10
Member No.: 18,018



QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 1 2012, 03:11 PM) *
Materialisation, physical entity, possession!


Spiritception (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Stahlseele
post Jul 1 2012, 03:16 PM
Post #12


The ShadowComedian
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,538
Joined: 3-October 07
From: Hamburg, AGS
Member No.: 13,525



We need to initiate deeper!
Can the possessed Spirit use Channeling on the Possessing Spirit?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Falconer
post Jul 1 2012, 05:06 PM
Post #13


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Validating
Posts: 2,283
Joined: 12-October 07
Member No.: 13,662



Garga... a prepared vessel doesn't need to be an independent item which can move around on it's own.

It can even be something you wear like a ring. Or even your special fancy armor jacket for formal occasions. Just remember that the possession is always obvious and clearly magical to any casual observer (6-force perception).



So lets just take the case of your armor....
If you prepare it then have a force 6 hop into it... the armor rating goes up by 6 points. (you don't get the hardened quality though ironically your coat is now indestructible... not so much the contents :)).

You know have a vessel which can do things like provide counterspelling, use other spirit powers which require physical presence. Or even engage in astral combat against purely astral entities. Watching lightning bolts arc out from your coat from elemental attacks is perfectly fitting.

Downside of this... is preparing the armor as a prepared vessel means it probably makes you stand out for 'geek the mage' purposes.


The other bits on the car radio... maybe if you have some old '50's car with mechanical controls for the radio. Any modern car with AR displays and touch screens... you're completely out of luck. The spirit still can't interact with any of the electronics.


That said, outside the outright wrongness that is emotitoys software and infinitely stacking nature... that sounds like a perfect stealth vessel. Only problem would be statting it up as a drone (probably just use the bust-a-move stats or similar).

Pretty much most any of the microdrones would meat the small and concealable requirement. (microskimmer, kanmushi, or slightly larger the fly-spy or dragonfly).
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Falconer
post Jul 1 2012, 05:17 PM
Post #14


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Validating
Posts: 2,283
Joined: 12-October 07
Member No.: 13,662



watership down!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Falconer
post Jul 1 2012, 05:19 PM
Post #15


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Validating
Posts: 2,283
Joined: 12-October 07
Member No.: 13,662



Repeat watership down.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Falconer
post Jul 1 2012, 05:19 PM
Post #16


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Validating
Posts: 2,283
Joined: 12-October 07
Member No.: 13,662



oh look a bunny!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Falconer
post Jul 1 2012, 10:58 PM
Post #17


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Validating
Posts: 2,283
Joined: 12-October 07
Member No.: 13,662



board crashing results in multiple post.... coverage at 11.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Krishach
post Jul 1 2012, 11:11 PM
Post #18


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 310
Joined: 26-August 10
Member No.: 18,972



Amazing epic quint post....
I like the jacket idea, but here is a question: if the item is obviously magical, can it be concealed? Why possess the jacket when you can do the same to the under-shirt?
QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jul 1 2012, 12:15 PM) *
How about an emotitoy drone? Just imagine one of those little fellas launching itself from your lapel to pound the living crap out of someone, shouting "How do you feel now, bitch?!!".

I've never seen the maneuverability of that drone confirming, flight. Where is that printed please?


I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades is one of the nastier things I've seen for possession on the small side. Depending on the version, it can get evil. I've yet to see any reason in RAW rules why a dragonfly cannot have an Anti-theft system (no warning) installed either, for the extra fry after it nips you.

Pick your favorite car. I've got a beat-up GAZ that I can throw a spirit into, and it's like having a rigger friend, plus the immunity.

Manservant-3. Person sized drone that few people question the presence of, especially at higher class functions. Possession and you have an insta-brawler, or nastier, if you modded it with hidden weapons. If you are posh enough, the Akiyama's chameleon cloak can also make for a fun possession target.

And then there is the possessed Heimdall. It's "f*%k you," with feeling.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Seriously Mike
post Jul 2 2012, 08:09 AM
Post #19


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 770
Joined: 19-August 11
From: Middle-Eastern Europe
Member No.: 36,268



The running joke of my campaign, the demonic excavator. Either a Mesametric Beaver drone or some Caterpillar-Kawasaki construction vehicle.
"Nicks, are you telling me there are DEMONIC EXCAVATORS on the loose in this city?!"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ShadowDragon8685
post Jul 2 2012, 08:30 AM
Post #20


Horror
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 5,322
Joined: 15-June 05
From: BumFuck, New Jersey
Member No.: 7,445



When I read the title of this thread, my mind immediately went to sailing ships and zeppelins. Then I realized that this thread had nothing to do with vessels which sail. I am now sad.


Of course, you could always have your spirit attempt to possess a warship...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
The Jopp
post Jul 2 2012, 11:47 AM
Post #21


Runner
******

Group: Members
Posts: 2,925
Joined: 26-February 02
Member No.: 948



Renraku Manservant 3
Similar Models (Top Speed +20% -1 Pilot)

Put a F4 spirit inside and give it customized clothing and weapons. Teach it to use said weapons.

Congratulations, you now have terminator bodyguards.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
The Jopp
post Jul 2 2012, 11:50 AM
Post #22


Runner
******

Group: Members
Posts: 2,925
Joined: 26-February 02
Member No.: 948



QUOTE (Krishach @ Jul 1 2012, 11:11 PM) *
I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades is one of the nastier things I've seen for possession on the small side. Depending on the version, it can get evil. I've yet to see any reason in RAW rules why a dragonfly cannot have an Anti-theft system (no warning) installed either, for the extra fry after it nips you.


Unfortunately they cannot. Anti-Theft are for "Regular" vehicles and that is a mini drone.

Here's a thought though. They can have anti-Vehicle weapons that does 1 point of damage. Will that base damage increase by force? After all, noted attributes on a drone is increased by force.

Give it ruthenium polymers and 2 grapple arms and it becomes a very tiny boxer.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Yerameyahu
post Jul 2 2012, 12:01 PM
Post #23


Advocatus Diaboli
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,994
Joined: 20-November 07
From: USA
Member No.: 14,282



Man, is there *anything* not broken about possession? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That dragonfly one might be the worst, as people and objects just fall apart, slowly, for no apparent reason…
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
gargaMONK
post Jul 2 2012, 04:44 PM
Post #24


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 34
Joined: 5-March 09
From: Atlanta, GA
Member No.: 16,946



QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 2 2012, 08:01 AM) *
Man, is there *anything* not broken about possession? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That dragonfly one might be the worst, as people and objects just fall apart, slowly, for no apparent reason…

See, I've always preferred materialization spirits because they seem more intuitive to me. Go fetch x. Go clear that room. Etc. I feel bad about stuff like possessed armor because it feels cheesy, and I lose regular utility to boot. Or so I thought.

QUOTE (Krishach @ Jul 1 2012, 07:11 PM) *
I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades

QUOTE (The Jopp @ Jul 2 2012, 07:50 AM) *
Give it ruthenium polymers and 2 grapple arms and it becomes a very tiny boxer.

In my head, the situation I wanted to solve was the classic western lockup. I'm in a cell, behind bars, but I can see the keys. I materialization spirit and grab them for me. A possessed dragonfly cannot. But with grapple arms... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Neraph
post Jul 2 2012, 04:56 PM
Post #25


Great Dragon
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 5,542
Joined: 30-September 08
From: D/FW Megaplex
Member No.: 16,387



QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jul 1 2012, 06:59 AM) *
Corpse
Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma

The Preserve spell goes a long way towards fixing that (Street Magic, page 174), as does preparing the vessel (Street Magic, page 86, Inanimate Vessels, Dead Vessels subsection). With 6 successes, a Preserved, prepared zombie only loses one point of physical stats every six months.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 

RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 5th May 2025 - 02:54 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.