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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-March 09 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 16,946 ![]() |
I play a possession mage (yeah) and in an effort to share the fun with my teammates, I tend to avoid possession metahumans. Having set that stricture upon myself, I'm interested in prepared vessels for my spirits. So...
Can you recommend a vessel choice that works particularly well for you? I'm most interested in portability, durability, and economy, but I'm open to suggestion. Alternately, do you have any good stories from runs that hinged on a clever possession? Here are my favorite so far: Bust-A-Move drone (ARS p117) - An object vessel that QUOTE can do anything the vessel can do normally. A car vessel can drive and play the radio (SM p87) Portability: 5/5; Durability 2/5; Economy: 5/5 Cons: May require dis-assembly/re-assembly to enchant. Roll is QUOTE Enchanting + Magic (Object Resistance x 3, 1 day) Extended Test and two refined or one radical reagent per 10 kilograms Hawk (RW p99) Portability: 4/5; Durability: 2/5; Economy: 1/5 Pro: Can be healed. Roll is QUOTE Enchanting + Magic (vessel’s Willpower [2], 1 day) Extended Test and two refined or one radical reagent Con: I'd like to be able to take it with me, and without Biodrone modification, I can't rely on stealth / discretion. That means it would cost a minimum of 500 for the hawk, plus 45k for the CAST mod.Both of these examples are small and relatively unimpressive, but then really benefit from the possession stat boost. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
Small Animals?
Rat, Cat, Dog, Squirrel, Pigeon, etc. These all sound like solid choices for a possession Mage. And they are just lying around on the streets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 ![]() |
How about an emotitoy drone? Just imagine one of those little fellas launching itself from your lapel to pound the living crap out of someone, shouting "How do you feel now, bitch?!!".
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 ![]() |
Plasteel Homonculus
Portability 3/5, Durability 5/5, Economoy 3/5, Pro: Very strong when possessed by a spirit with Energy Aura. Con: Heavy Flying Eye Portability 5/5, Durability 1/5, Economy 5/5, Pro: Flight-capable vessel (for air, fire and ally spirits), hard to spot, repairable with "Fix" spell. Con: Squishy Corpse Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 ![]() |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Can a Spirit possess another spirit? O.o
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 ![]() |
Lol - it really says something when 'requires murdering someone' isn't considered an availability limitation worth mentioning! To be fair, I did mention "social stigma" in the cons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-March 09 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 16,946 ![]() |
Thanks for the responses! I think I've already learned something.
It seems like two main categories are emerging. "Vessel-on-the-fly" Small Animals: Rat, Cat, Dog, Squirrel, Pigeon, I like Rat/Pigeon in particular here, because they're everywhere and would hardly be looked at twice.also Corpse Step 1, murder. Step 2 just add spirit!Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma Prepared vessels QUOTE Plasteel Homonculus/Flying Eye emotitoy drone So it seems like the emergent strategy would be to enchant your hard-to-possess mechanical vessels ahead of time, then be opportunistic with animals that are around. Perhaps that should have been more evident to me from the system, but it wasn't. Can a Spirit possess another spirit? O.o I am 99% positive that they cannot. Possession occupies a body, which most spirits don't have, only manifestations. MAYBE inhabited spirit hybrid forms. Wait... you were kidding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Materialisation, physical entity, possession!
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 ![]() |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
We need to initiate deeper!
Can the possessed Spirit use Channeling on the Possessing Spirit? |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
Garga... a prepared vessel doesn't need to be an independent item which can move around on it's own.
It can even be something you wear like a ring. Or even your special fancy armor jacket for formal occasions. Just remember that the possession is always obvious and clearly magical to any casual observer (6-force perception). So lets just take the case of your armor.... If you prepare it then have a force 6 hop into it... the armor rating goes up by 6 points. (you don't get the hardened quality though ironically your coat is now indestructible... not so much the contents :)). You know have a vessel which can do things like provide counterspelling, use other spirit powers which require physical presence. Or even engage in astral combat against purely astral entities. Watching lightning bolts arc out from your coat from elemental attacks is perfectly fitting. Downside of this... is preparing the armor as a prepared vessel means it probably makes you stand out for 'geek the mage' purposes. The other bits on the car radio... maybe if you have some old '50's car with mechanical controls for the radio. Any modern car with AR displays and touch screens... you're completely out of luck. The spirit still can't interact with any of the electronics. That said, outside the outright wrongness that is emotitoys software and infinitely stacking nature... that sounds like a perfect stealth vessel. Only problem would be statting it up as a drone (probably just use the bust-a-move stats or similar). Pretty much most any of the microdrones would meat the small and concealable requirement. (microskimmer, kanmushi, or slightly larger the fly-spy or dragonfly). |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
watership down!
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
Repeat watership down.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
oh look a bunny!
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
board crashing results in multiple post.... coverage at 11.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 26-August 10 Member No.: 18,972 ![]() |
Amazing epic quint post....
I like the jacket idea, but here is a question: if the item is obviously magical, can it be concealed? Why possess the jacket when you can do the same to the under-shirt? How about an emotitoy drone? Just imagine one of those little fellas launching itself from your lapel to pound the living crap out of someone, shouting "How do you feel now, bitch?!!". I've never seen the maneuverability of that drone confirming, flight. Where is that printed please? I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades is one of the nastier things I've seen for possession on the small side. Depending on the version, it can get evil. I've yet to see any reason in RAW rules why a dragonfly cannot have an Anti-theft system (no warning) installed either, for the extra fry after it nips you. Pick your favorite car. I've got a beat-up GAZ that I can throw a spirit into, and it's like having a rigger friend, plus the immunity. Manservant-3. Person sized drone that few people question the presence of, especially at higher class functions. Possession and you have an insta-brawler, or nastier, if you modded it with hidden weapons. If you are posh enough, the Akiyama's chameleon cloak can also make for a fun possession target. And then there is the possessed Heimdall. It's "f*%k you," with feeling. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 ![]() |
The running joke of my campaign, the demonic excavator. Either a Mesametric Beaver drone or some Caterpillar-Kawasaki construction vehicle.
"Nicks, are you telling me there are DEMONIC EXCAVATORS on the loose in this city?!" |
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Horror ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 ![]() |
When I read the title of this thread, my mind immediately went to sailing ships and zeppelins. Then I realized that this thread had nothing to do with vessels which sail. I am now sad.
Of course, you could always have your spirit attempt to possess a warship... |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
Renraku Manservant 3
Similar Models (Top Speed +20% -1 Pilot) Put a F4 spirit inside and give it customized clothing and weapons. Teach it to use said weapons. Congratulations, you now have terminator bodyguards. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades is one of the nastier things I've seen for possession on the small side. Depending on the version, it can get evil. I've yet to see any reason in RAW rules why a dragonfly cannot have an Anti-theft system (no warning) installed either, for the extra fry after it nips you. Unfortunately they cannot. Anti-Theft are for "Regular" vehicles and that is a mini drone. Here's a thought though. They can have anti-Vehicle weapons that does 1 point of damage. Will that base damage increase by force? After all, noted attributes on a drone is increased by force. Give it ruthenium polymers and 2 grapple arms and it becomes a very tiny boxer. |
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 ![]() |
Man, is there *anything* not broken about possession? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That dragonfly one might be the worst, as people and objects just fall apart, slowly, for no apparent reason…
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-March 09 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 16,946 ![]() |
Man, is there *anything* not broken about possession? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That dragonfly one might be the worst, as people and objects just fall apart, slowly, for no apparent reason… See, I've always preferred materialization spirits because they seem more intuitive to me. Go fetch x. Go clear that room. Etc. I feel bad about stuff like possessed armor because it feels cheesy, and I lose regular utility to boot. Or so I thought. I am surprised no one mentioned my standard go-to. A Dragonfly with a few upgrades Give it ruthenium polymers and 2 grapple arms and it becomes a very tiny boxer. In my head, the situation I wanted to solve was the classic western lockup. I'm in a cell, behind bars, but I can see the keys. I materialization spirit and grab them for me. A possessed dragonfly cannot. But with grapple arms... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
Corpse Portability 1/5, Durability 4/5 (varies), Economy 5/5, Pro: Available on-the-spot, can use metahuman equipment. Con: Very difficult to transport (stench, decay, conservation), social stigma The Preserve spell goes a long way towards fixing that (Street Magic, page 174), as does preparing the vessel (Street Magic, page 86, Inanimate Vessels, Dead Vessels subsection). With 6 successes, a Preserved, prepared zombie only loses one point of physical stats every six months. |
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