And of these, only New Brunswick and Nova Scotia would be intact... the rest lost significant territory to the Algonquin-Manitou Council... and oddly Newfoundland is part of Quebec? That part makes me shake my head and smile. Quebecois French in a Newfoundland accent scares me.

No, Newfoundland is part of the UCAS. Actually part of Maine according to older sources, though the Sixth World Almanac indicates it belongs to Québec. I'm prepared to believe that is an oversight until they obviously retcon it. So I'd say you don't have to start calling it Terre-Neuve. If you follow the link in the post above yours, you can see I integrated Newfoundland in my UCAS states overview as part of Maine.

Dirty Tricks confirmed Newfoundland is part of Maine (and Prince Edward Island part of Nova Scotia). Though it also mentions both now have significant "independance" movements willing to break up and become states of their own again.

Darn. Of course it is.

Labrador is likely part of Quebec, and people get that and Newfoundland confused all the time. Despite one being on the mainland and the other being an island.

Yes, though the territory lost from Ontario carried little of the population, agriculture, industry or money. Significant recent finds of rare earths in northern Ontartio may change that a bit.

A lot of trees, though. I remember one drive through northern Ontario, on a major highway, in which there was a stretch of 200 kilometers between towns. Part way through, I lost cell phone contact, then AM radio, then FM radio. And saw three other vehicle the whole time. All the while pulling a trailer that weighed twice as much as my little car's manual said I should be pulling. I listened very carefully to the engine.

Try living there.

Hey, it's the same in Norway.

Not quite, America's a lot emptier (been to both, so I can compare). While lonelier than Germany or the Netherlands, Norway still has what feels like coherent settlements. America, aside from NY state and a few patches of East Coast, has not. I never was at the West Coast, I only know the East between New Brunswick and Florida and the Midwest from Missouri up to Idaho and Ontario, so there may be denser stretches of land in Orange County or something.

Did you make the trip up to the fart north of Norway? There are not many settlements, but long stretches of empty road and no cell phone coverage etc.

Tromsö (to see the northern light). Doesn't get much more northwards. I'll admit I took the Hurtigruten up from Bergen though, so I cannot vouch for the northern countryside. There wasn't much around Tromsö, I'll admit. Bad reception might be due to the terrain, of course; it's mountainous after all, not flat as much of the Midwest. I never had the same radio station for more than a few dozen minutes, and often no reception at all.

Canada is an interesting place, one large country to the north of the US shares a good deal of cultural similarities, but it is entirely distinct from the US. The future Canadian states (UCAS) should be allied with the future American states, in case there is a NAU or North American Union to unite the two entities. Someday, we're using metric units instead of the older Imperial units in measurement (LOL) like most of the world.

What.

Turns out that Canada got 5 times lower population density then Norway. But yeah the far north is getting emptier every year, the young people are drawn into the big cities by education, work opportunities and getting away from the isolation... Bloody lots of trees everywhere here to, makes travelling cross the country very boring. That goes for all of Scandinavia... In Finland you're bound to run into a lot of lakes although.
As a side note, Germany makes me nervous... It's to goddamn flat!

Heh. It gets more mountainous the more you go southwards, but it hasn't got much in the terms of actual mountains.

The highest point in Denmark is 171 meters above sea level. There are mountains in Germany.

That statement makes little sense to me, like the dutch most danes should be drowning, therefore there's mountains in Germany?

It's not a correlation statement, but a comparative one. Germany is far from flat compared to Denmark.

Also, the tallest point in the European part of the Netherlands is 322 meters above sea level. That's hardly at all flat!

Well it depends on what you compare with, for me... They're both to flat.

Don't know whether this is a controversial question but how is Montreal ranking in the inner-Canadian comparison for living desirability?

Today or in Shadowrun?

Today, well Toronto and Vancouver have better economies, but Montreal has a better nightlife than Toronto (Vancouver is nice and west-coasty, probably a better lifestyle there). Housing is more affordable, too. However, Quebec's economy is crumbling, so you get to sigh a lot about social problems.

So, well, it's in the top 3 overall I'd say. Don't get me wrong, the maritime provinces are lovely places to live, and in the plains you got a nice oil boom, but those places are smaller than Toronto/Vancouver/Montreal

In Shadowrun: You wouldn't want to live there. Unless you're really rich.

Winnipeg (And Manitoba) has the same effect on me.

But I moved here anyhow.

Uhm, should it be worrisome that your capitol isn't on that list?

(Oh, look it's a foreigner that doesn't think Toronto is the capitol of Canada)

Doesn't that apply to everywhere in Shadowrun?

Not really. Ottawa-Hull is a pretty small place as capitols go. One infamous Canadian once referred to it as his "favorite rural place in Canada" as a joke.

With the creation of the UCAS, and the capitol being Washington, DC, about the only major thing I can think of that Ottawa would have going for it would be the (No-Longer-)Royal Mint, which makes some of the purest mass-produced gold bullion in the world. It'd just be another city in Ontario otherwise. Toronto would be vastly more important.