That's not an explanation, that's an attempt to headcanon in a way for it to have been retroactively correct. Despite, you know, thirty in-gameworld years and dozens of sourcebooks worth of explanation on exactly how things don't work that way.

Sorry man, it just doesn't follow. It doesn't even follow for real-world software development, because there's no way in hell anyone would have anything life-critical (and anything that replaces large chunks of your nervous system, or major organs, is clearly life-critical) running on a setup that requires a network connection to function.

FWIW, I'd argue that, instead, the New Matrix is an attempt to reconcile the 12 years of old-school SR Matrix with ~8 years of wireless SR4 Matrix, making fluff and crunch line up with both at once.

Whether it succeeds or not is up to individual players, but it's also not quite the same discussion -- I know you had a smiley face and all, don't get me wrong! -- as the firearm one. No one's saying "zomg Matrix is so silly clearly no one that's ever written for Shadowrun knows how to turn on a computer," or something. In both instances, though, the thing is that stuff like game balance, playability, and the game world as it's already been presented? They all win out over "realism." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Good lord. It doesn't matter. The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude.


You do realize that LOL is like emoticons. They are intended to give contextual understanding of the tone of a piece of written word since online, sentiment cannot always easily be understood.

You were wrong. You misunderstood. Let it go. It doesn't make you a bad person that you made a mistake, but I don't appreciate your continued trolling.

They do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Which really makes me boggle why the game designers who are getting paid for their efforts are ignoring the game world as it's already been presented to cram in more of what the players of SR4 discarded as a hindrance to playability.

How, exactly, does that require the wireless boni as presented in the book?


No, it is not, which is why there's a little button to add emoticons.

Try to be a bit (okay, a lot) less condescending, and maybe people will actually listen to what you say.

For what it's worth, your mass of lols comes across as very condescending. As does your generous offer of letting the authors use your wisdom to make a better game. Your stealth edit earlier didn't sound too good either.

Maybe reflect on that a little, Kruger.

Maybe not, but all I'm trying to tell you is that some writers DO know how real guns work, they just don't care enough to try and change an existing game system. The longer you post, the longer it becomes clear that you're really hung up on the idea that people don't know things that you know -- really hung up on it -- and what you need to realize is that that is not always the case. Not everyone who is disagreeing with you is misunderstanding you. Sometimes we're just disagreeing with you.


If you don't mean things about Shadowrun writers and artists, maybe you shouldn't say things about Shadowrun writers and artists. That's okay. I'll just assume English isn't your first language and forgive this misspeaking.

Smart people listen to intelligent content, regardless of tone. Besides, I said nothing bad. I asked what his reference was to qualify a statement, since I knew it to be untrue.

And let's be realistic, you were insulting to me first. If you want to be treated nicely, you should start that way. Did you expect me to take your condescending tone better? Especially when your condescension was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the material you were quoting and insulting me for? We're adults here. Act like one.

It's not worth much. I used lol twice in seven posts. I apologize for the "mass".

Look, I can't help being right. If that upsets the people who were wrong, that is unfortunate. But it doesn't make me rude.

Just wow.

Yes of course. You can't imagine being wrong. All is well with the world. Just go on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
I'm back to my popcorn.

But the system was changed, so we know this isn't correct. Whether or not "some" writers do, enough didn't in decision making positions that the rules were changed. Again though, I don't know why you're so fixated on this idea if you weren't a shot caller.

I love that I'm the only one here acting with any modicum of restraint and regards to the rules on the forum for being polite.

Looks like you guys need a little break from this discussion...

Oh, and don't continue it in another thread, please.

Bye
Thanee