I would say anthropology and psychology would be the best classes for a face to take. A face is allready an archtype, magic or cyberware can be added to make your character a bit better but really best thing you can do is make sure you have a good charisma and have good social skills, it is useful even in combat look over leadership. My face is based off the old SR1 rocker.

Faces need Edge and Dodge. Things will go wrong and then you will be too far away for your team to protect you effectively. Alternatively, you need a shocker offense, such as summoning. Ideally, both.

One of my players asked me to build him a Face and he ended up being very happy to have high Edge and Dodge (an Adept, but that is doable with any archetype).

My opinion and experience is that Faces need something else to do as a hobby. You usually do not need super high dice pools, as your targets will tend to have low resistances. If you meet another Face, just look for another solution to the problem.

wait...your face isn't able to get away with one guy at his side as a bodyguard? I thought that was basic practice for a meet of any kind where the face leaves a portion of the team. One man on site for protection in case of double cross.

I think he's talking about a single guy talking his was past a guard or checkpoint. An easier Con than if you've got some street monster following you who limits the plausibility of your story and might be asked to speak for himself.

I think it would depend on the story, & the cover you're taking I suppose, If you're trying to blend in, then yeah perhaps not, but playing a big shot you should always have a bodyguard on hand, dressed to the nines of course.

Indeed... My face would never be caught dead in ill-fitting and sub-standard clothes (if it costs less than several thousands, it is sub-standard). Unless the Con required it, of course (He really hates those Cons). He has a certain standard to uphold, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I saw that on The A-Team.

Face from A-team rocks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

It was Hannibal this time with B.A. as his bodyguard.

That is so cliché. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

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So wait, you basically just use your face to make high level negotiations?

Seriously?

What about Pizza delivery?

What about pretending to be an employee and then opening the doors from the inside?

What about canvassing?

What even about those types of negotiations where the other party does not want a bodyguard around, e.g. hostage type situations?

What about seducing? You take a bodyguard along, then?

That is a serious waste.

no, but times when there is no bodyguard you have a sniper overwatch, either by rigger or actual sniper, & who in their right mind walks into a hostage negotiation alone & unarmed...dead guys, thats who

Faces should be good investigators, especially good at interviewing people. As such, being able to tail people, conduct surveillance, break in when necessary and generally being able to sneak around would be cool things to be good at. While being well-connected and having loads of contacts, of course.

This is the kind of character that can benefit from a variety of good attributes and skills. Being a decent driver, athlete, unarmed/melee/gun fighter, medic and other useful things fit in fine. Languages and knowledge skills (helpful for investigations as well as schmoozing) are great. And last but not least, there's cool cyberware out there to help.

That's why I think adding the Magic attribute, magical skill groups, spells/rituals/alchemy, initiating, and bonding foci stretch faces thin. That, plus the Charisma skill groups and other supplemental skills is mostly karma driven rather than things you can purchase. If, on the other hand, face characters were primarily a resources investment, then a magician face would be amazing given enough time. I'm thinking about a mystic adept shaman face though, but the character is spread thin for my tastes.

That is what I mean with a hobby. You can be Face/Investigator, Face/burglar, ... or Face/Mage all with decent synergy.

I also agree that Face/P.I./burglar/Mage is spread too thin.

The classic is Face/chameloen or Face/Mage

If you are worried about ressources vs. Karma, you should check out Face/decker. Though that often reads Decker/Face.

Apparently you do not watch any of the shows where that is the entire premise. I mean really, James Bond walks into traps all the time, with no support or backup whatsoever.

A Mystic Adept Face can be an amazing character. I am thoroughly enjoying mine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

James Bond is not an unarmed, untrained face walking into danger, which was what was mentioned. Bond handle himself, he is his own muscle, & if a Face is well prepared & geared for trouble, that's fine. but is a face has minor gun skills & leaves his gun at home (or in the car) & has no other combat skills to speak of except dodging, I would expect him to be covered in some way.

To be Fair, Bond is definitely a Prime Runner with quite of experience behind him.

Also the legendary 12 Edge, thought to be impossible for most metahumans didn't hurt, especially as he regained 1 Edge for every female he seduced.

What? You thought he was just horny? Noooooo.. he was just refreshing the Edge Pool. All for Queen and Country you know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bad Puns/Humour was also used to refresh it and a good thing as he burned it like there was no Tomorrow.

High and First both come to mind...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Too True... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think i'll make a librarian face if only there were sone bad pun to name them..

Just off the top of the head are the following:

The Thesaurus

Danno. And whenever they defeat the enemy someone in the party says 'Book em Danno'

SSSSHHHHHHHH!!

Lore.

Conan The Librarian (Yes, its been used, but still classic)