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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
Wouldn't do a thing. At least, that's my understanding. Requires a blasting cap (a shock wave). Course, I wouldn't want to test that personally. Electrically fired C4 is indeed actually detonated by a Blasting Cap. Hell, you can burn C4 to cook rations (and it does not leave that chemical aftertaste like a heat tab does). It is pretty stable stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 ![]() |
Electrically fired C4 is indeed actually detonated by a Blasting Cap. Hell, you can burn C4 to cook rations (and it does not leave that chemical aftertaste like a heat tab does). It is pretty stable stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'd be more worried about some asshole shooting stick-and-shock. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
That, my friend, is pretty damn funny. In fact, this an ex-wife joke worthy of the Hammer demonstration in Iron Man 2. *Pfft-Thunk* "HammerTech?" "Yeah..."Electrically fired C4 is indeed actually detonated by a Blasting Cap. Hell, you can burn C4 to cook rations (and it does not leave that chemical aftertaste like a heat tab does). It is pretty stable stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I remember hearing about dynamite charges being shaved and used for firewood in Africa during WWII.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 504 Joined: 8-November 05 From: North Vancouver, BC Member No.: 7,936 ![]() |
Pretty sure you need a high intensity heat source and a electrical shockwave, so I doubt a SnS would do the trick. But could be a good excuse to have an alchemical arrow or bullet in your possession.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,088 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 ![]() |
Pretty sure you need a high intensity heat source and a electrical shockwave, so I doubt a SnS would do the trick. But could be a good excuse to have an alchemical arrow or bullet in your possession. It's very hard to cook off safety explosives, especially when not encased in something solid where pressure can build up. Of course, some explosives become a lot less stable depending on storage conditions, Dynamite famously could "sweat out" nitroglycerin, with obvious results... PS: And even C4 with blasting cap attached should not be affected by SnS. It takes a certain wattage to fire the cap, tasers are not supposed to deliver that much power. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
Electrically fired C4 is indeed actually detonated by a Blasting Cap. Hell, you can burn C4 to cook rations (and it does not leave that chemical aftertaste like a heat tab does). It is pretty stable stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Was going to say something similar. The new heating elements of MREs are pretty good now. Just watch out - they get hot and produce nothing but Hydrogen gas, so it becomes a little of an explosive hazard... |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 ![]() |
PS: And even C4 with blasting cap attached should not be affected by SnS. It takes a certain wattage to fire the cap, tasers are not supposed to deliver that much power. Well if you've got friggen blasting caps attached, getting shot with ANYTHING is liable to blow you up. There are even rules for this exact thing in SR4, I believe in Arsenal - if you're carrying blasting caps, any "rough handling" requires a roll to avoid setting them off. ~Umi |
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 ![]() |
*Pfft-Thunk* "HammerTech?" "Yeah... Funnily enough the original ending that was partially filmed had the HammerTech missile save the day. I think they made a good decision to change the ending to the one we saw. -k |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
PS: And even C4 with blasting cap attached should not be affected by SnS. It takes a certain wattage to fire the cap, tasers are not supposed to deliver that much power. IRL, Tasers aren't designed to take down a troll, for some reason. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 ![]() |
IRL, Tasers aren't designed to take down a troll, for some reason. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) You still mad about the Tasers in SRR:DF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,192 Joined: 6-May 07 From: Texas - The RGV Member No.: 11,613 ![]() |
IRL, Tasers aren't designed to take down a troll, for some reason. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I don't know, I've taken down my share of trolls in-game with a Defiance EX Shocker. Just keep pulling the trigger until they drop! |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
You still mad about the Tasers in SRR:DF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) *Trashes the room like The Hulk with an empty fridge*
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 ![]() |
Isn't C-4 detonated by an electrical current? Very likely wrong, but if so S&S rounds are going to be a lot less non-lethal around this guy. No, it's detonated by another explosion, typically a blasting cap or detcord. The dufuses who get hired to write and edit SR have no idea what they are talking about on pretty much any topic, so in SR things explode directly from electricity. Because reasons. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 ![]() |
See, I heard somewhere that C-4 was detonated by electricity and the "fact" stuck in my head for years. Kind of like an urban myth, it lodged there until the truth came and expelled it into dark oblivion.
AKA now I know, and knowing is half the battle *GI JOE!* |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 ![]() |
No, it's detonated by another explosion, typically a blasting cap or detcord. The dufuses who get hired to write and edit SR have no idea what they are talking about on pretty much any topic, so in SR things explode directly from electricity. Because reasons. Maybe if they brick the detonator, which according to some should in turn cause it to go snap crackle and pop spectacularly and so trigger the C4*. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) *yes we know if you are dumb enough to have wireless fuses running when you don't need to they will get remote detonated, but the humor is still valid. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,088 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 ![]() |
IRL, Tasers aren't designed to take down a troll, for some reason. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Blasting caps require ~250 mA minimum. If a taser with that current (or one of those 140 mm SnS shells (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) hits anything smaller than a great dragon, that brick of C4 will be the least of your concerns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
Pretty sure you need a high intensity heat source and a electrical shockwave, so I doubt a SnS would do the trick. But could be a good excuse to have an alchemical arrow or bullet in your possession. You do not need an Electrical Detonator for C4 - Standard Detonators and fuse will work as well. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
So, Explosives are a popular choice for concealed carry? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 ![]() |
So, Explosives are a popular choice for concealed carry? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I had a character who carried around a few minigrenades in her jacket pocket.... |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 ![]() |
So, Explosives are a popular choice for concealed carry? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Well, with the right packagin you could make them look like a bar of chocolat or something like it. If people ask, you could look at them angrily and say 'I have an addiction problem, DON'T JUDGE ME!' and then open one real package of chocolate and stuff the whole bar into your mouth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
One of my players always carried ALL the C12 he had bought at chargen with him - most of it in his car's trunk, but a few odd kilos in his backpack, organized into neat car-destroyer packages if he needs to blow up something on his way to the 'shack. Happens he was jandering through a park and a rent-a-cop asks him for his SIN. He does what any sensible person with a good faked SIN doesn't do - he bolts and runs. The cop tasers him in the backpack.
Turns out carrying several primed and ready explosive packages in his backpack wasn't that good of an idea. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 504 Joined: 8-November 05 From: North Vancouver, BC Member No.: 7,936 ![]() |
You do not need an Electrical Detonator for C4 - Standard Detonators and fuse will work as well. I could be wrong, and if I am my bad, but I'm pretty sure standard detonators used for c4 will still produce the electrical shock wave needed, just without having to have the cords attached. And the high intensity heat. Then again my knowledge is a little old, had a friend who did demolitions an engineering with peacekeepers years ago (SR3 was still current and kind of new, Years ago) Edit: and only to find out I am wrong within seconds of posting. It's any High intensity shockwave, either explosive or electrical. Anything short of those shock waves does diddly squat Also, most my non-faces carry a concealed light pistol and fine blade with attached private investigator license. My faces stuck with lights or hold outs that they highly specialized in. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 ![]() |
Hmmm.. makes me think of adopting a new spell--
Detonate [Explosive] Manipulation (Physical) Type: P Range: LOS Duration: P Drain: F – 1 The aptly named Detonate spell acts as a magical detonator to the targeted explosive, providing the necessary effects to obtain optimal blast. The magician must succeed against the target’s Object Resistance dice pool and sustain the effect until permanent at which point causes the explosive to go off. Each type of explosive requires it own spell (C12, dynamite, Semtex, Water-gel, etc..) Binary explosive are unaffected by this spell while in their separated state, unless one part is already explosive and is targeted by a specific spell for that particular compound, otherwise they can be detonated once mixed. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
I could be wrong, and if I am my bad, but I'm pretty sure standard detonators used for c4 will still produce the electrical shock wave needed, just without having to have the cords attached. And the high intensity heat. Then again my knowledge is a little old, had a friend who did demolitions an engineering with peacekeepers years ago (SR3 was still current and kind of new, Years ago) Edit: and only to find out I am wrong within seconds of posting. It's any High intensity shockwave, either explosive or electrical. Anything short of those shock waves does diddly squat Also, most my non-faces carry a concealed light pistol and fine blade with attached private investigator license. My faces stuck with lights or hold outs that they highly specialized in. Standard Detonators have no electrical component at all. Yep... you got it right... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 ![]() |
Hmmm.. makes me think of adopting a new spell-- Detonate [Explosive] Manipulation (Physical) Type: P Range: LOS Duration: P Drain: F – 1 The aptly named Detonate spell acts as a magical detonator to the targeted explosive, providing the necessary effects to obtain optimal blast. The magician must succeed against the target’s Object Resistance dice pool and sustain the effect until permanent at which point causes the explosive to go off. Each type of explosive requires it own spell (C12, dynamite, Semtex, Water-gel, etc..) Binary explosive are unaffected by this spell while in their separated state, unless one part is already explosive and is targeted by a specific spell for that particular compound, otherwise they can be detonated once mixed. You should make a touch range version too, for those who want less drain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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