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post Jul 19 2008, 11:28 PM
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I think the average person is much more likely to remember a certain sci-fi/cyberpunk trilogy of movies before Johnny Mnemonic.

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Animation is a style that the majority of the United States is not actually into.


But the majority of people that are into animation are more likely to be interested in science-fiction than those that aren't ...
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post Jul 19 2008, 11:33 PM
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why should it be ASIA Animation?
Batman the Animated series, Batman of the Future . . something like that . .
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post Jul 20 2008, 12:11 AM
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The reason why I thought anime was the cost involved in live action or CGI or the combo of both. Being outside of the motion picture industry, I have no idea which cost what. As far as betting the gritty feel of SR, I think anime could do a good job. As far as fan contribution, I was referring to character concepts not script. Some of the character ideas and art on this forum alone bring to mind the very essence of SR. I mean where else are you going to see an obese troll fixer who rides around the sewers on an enlarged chair that is hauled around with a fork truck? Try doing that with live action actors, it could be done but I think it would cost more than an animated film. Anime or otherwise.
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post Jul 20 2008, 12:19 AM
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main point in cost-reduction for animated stuff is not needing actors and sets or parts of town to be warded off so you can film there . . you "just" draw it up on paper or in your computer and add in sounds and you're more or less done . . of course, something like the final fantasy movie where that girls hair alone was about 100 gig big is way over the top and still does not look particularly good in my eyes . .
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post Jul 20 2008, 01:35 AM
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I honestly think it might be a good idea to approach Joss Wheadon about this kind of project if SR was ever untangled enough to do this. And please, no Anime Shadowrun.
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post Jul 20 2008, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jul 19 2008, 04:00 PM) *
Catalyst Game Labs does have the relevant rights to produce or sublicense a movie or animated show.


QUOTE (Adam @ Jul 19 2008, 06:47 PM) *
As I said, we don't have the rights to do so. If we wanted to do something of that nature, we'd have to go back to WizKids for negotiations, and frankly, with their size and contacts, they're more likely to do license it out themselves then change our license to let us license it out to someone else ... all that would accomplish is make WizKids' piece of the pie smaller. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Emphasis mine.

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OK, Adam, which is it?
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post Jul 20 2008, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE (Hatspur @ Jul 19 2008, 09:35 PM) *
I honestly think it might be a good idea to approach Joss Wheadon about this kind of project if SR was ever untangled enough to do this. And please, no Anime Shadowrun.


I whole-heartily agree. As mentioned in a previous thread, Firefly makes me think of SR.
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post Jul 20 2008, 10:11 AM
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Keep dreaming, fankids. Whedon would ruin a SR universe because it's not his baby. You may have noticed, but he's a pretty big fan of scripts and worlds he has full control over.

Also, he's done Firefly. Why would he do the same show again? I love people outside the industry talking about what would be a good idea and what wouldn't.

You want to know who would be good to approach about this? A no name director looking for an in. It's not his baby, so you need a reason for him to sign on and do several projects to complete it. And no huge name director would ever have anything to do with that. They have other projects, glamour projects, to keep them busy.
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post Jul 20 2008, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 20 2008, 01:52 AM) *
Emphasis mine.

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OK, Adam, which is it?

Ack. Why didn't someone catch that sooner? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I've edited my original post -- we do not have the rights.
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post Jul 20 2008, 04:31 PM
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You're such a tease. =i)
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post Jul 20 2008, 05:54 PM
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To start off: I saw something a long time ago, a cartoon short based on what looked like Shadowrun, playing late at night on I think SciFi. It was definitely SR based, but for the life of me I have never seen it or find it again. And no, it wasn't Aeon Flux; the style was much different. I think it was Eastern European, German or Russian would be my guess.

Irregardless, I would love to see another SR animated or live action attempt. Do I think we'll get anything even close to faithful to my own personal vision of SR? Probably not. I'd probably be happy with anything we'd get, especially if Dunk was show in any capacity. It's a neat dream, but I don't think we'll ever get it.

No Whedon, please. I'm still trying to reign in the urge to beat geeks with, "Joss Whedon is my master now" shirts on. Kevin Smith writes better any way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(is a complete geek heretic)
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post Jul 20 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Jul 20 2008, 12:54 PM) *
No Whedon, please. I'm still trying to reign in the urge to beat geeks with, "Joss Whedon is my master now" shirts on. Kevin Smith writes better any way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(is a complete geek heretic)


There's enough room in my heart for more than one master. I'm a sucker for any writer that can do really good, really fun dialogue (something that, as a writer, I'm really weak at). Kevin Smith, Joss Whedon, Steven King, and Brian Bendis are all my Master. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 20 2008, 09:45 PM
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why am i hearing that voice actress from the hellsing anime when i read the word master? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

lovely voice tho, and with the kind of character the combo was oh so cute (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 20 2008, 11:01 PM
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Yeah, Whedon really does do his "baby" projects well and he might well ruin SR if approached. But giving it to a random no name director? That's about the worst idea I can imagine. Having no name actors in the show might work fine, but some untried director would just ruin it.

In no way do I consider Whedon a master, I just think his style of dialogue writing meshes really well with the SR universe.

My master is Dan Abnett.
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post Jul 20 2008, 11:03 PM
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ain't danny boy writing for warhammer 40k too?
there's at least one comic for WH40K with his name on it . .
more or less fitting *g*
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post Jul 21 2008, 01:18 AM
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Was it Night Watch or Day Watch? It's Russian and could give a kind of an SR feel.... kind of.
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post Jul 21 2008, 02:29 AM
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I'm pretty sure we could get Uwe Boll, that would solve the funding issue with doing a movie.

But then we'd get something like the M$ Shadowrun. Or worse.
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post Jul 21 2008, 03:10 AM
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Nope, sorry (well not really), Uwe Boll has been forbidden to make any more movies and the tax law that allowed him to make his movies has been re-written / killed just so that he can't use it. Plan 9 was bad but, I can't think of any laws that were created or otherwise revised to prohibit Ed Wood from making movies. Uwe Boll's movies were bad and he deserves to be pelted with garbage for his crimes of bad taste & even worse ethics.
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post Jul 21 2008, 03:19 AM
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Getting kind in your old age, Grep?

Just Garbage? I'd be pelting him with something else, myself.

Or, better yet, finding a Troll to pelt stuff at him. Better throwing arm.
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post Jul 21 2008, 03:39 AM
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What, you mean Uwe Boll can't make films to let the mafia launder their money anymore? For shame. What will they do now to make their hard earned cash look legit?

My pick would be a toss up between Tyler Perry, Joel Schumacher, the dude who made showgirls, or McG to direct a Shadowrun movie.... if Uwe Boll decides not to do it of course. Hummmm... Why do I feel so dirty all of the sudden?

Now if someone was able to combine showgirls with Johnny Mnemonic.... interesting....
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post Jul 21 2008, 04:19 AM
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Lesbian Elven Stripper Ninjas again?
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post Jul 21 2008, 04:38 AM
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No the chick with the wired reflexes who has the black shakes is doing a dance to seduce Keanu and he says something like "Woah."

She starts to actually get the black shakes while doing the strip dance for him and he take it as a sign that she wants him. In the end she recovers and actually says she is on her period. The End.
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post Jul 21 2008, 10:05 AM
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No name directors aren't untested. Christopher Nolan was a no name until Memento. Doesn't mean his films weren't bloody impressive before then. Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro? Were they talentless before making Amalie? How about Guillermo Del Toro? Think that guy was a hack before he made a huge name for himself in Hollywood? Or maybe you just think David Lean was rubbish before he made Bridge on the River Kwai.

Really, Hatspur, you have to increase your knowledge of how it works in the industry. The way you get fan projects done well is to get a highly talented director before he's well established. That's how you get quality without the ego to flatout refuse the project, or only do it if he can change it to the point that it's unrecognisable.

You know what Bruce Timm had done before he directed Batman: The Animated Series? Nada. Nothing. Zilch. He was an animator. But he had the talent to direct, and he jumped on an offered project and made it his baby. He did it well, and produced arguably the best Batman anyone's ever seen.

Saburo Hashimoto? The guy who did Gargoyles? One animated series no one watched. So when he saw a project with strong writing, he jumped all over it.

That's how it works, man. Small name director, great writing. Secret to a successfully orchestrating an existing product.
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post Jul 21 2008, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (masterofm @ Jul 20 2008, 09:18 PM) *
Was it Night Watch or Day Watch? It's Russian and could give a kind of an SR feel.... kind of.

No, definitely not. This would have been the early to mid 90s when I saw it. From what I remember, it was two sammies (one ork, one human) and a female hacker trying to break into an installation and screwing it up, then trying to pull their asses out of the fire they'd lit.

I'll let you guess how it ends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 21 2008, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Denicalis @ Jul 21 2008, 06:05 AM) *
Saburo Hashimoto? The guy who did Gargoyles? One animated series no one watched. So when he saw a project with strong writing, he jumped all over it.


I watched it! Even did up some fiction, worked the setting into the SR world, and had rules for playing them up on my site. (And again, I say, I really have to get that running again.)

Ahh... This is still around. I submitted them to the Avalon Mists fanzine back in '98. They're the SR2 version, but whatever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif)

http://avmists.gargoyles-fans.org/sept_gam2.html

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Edit Huh, looks like they're SR3 after all. I must have updated them just before sending that in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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