Really? As a rule my characters are all strictly cliches exaggerated to the point of self-mockery.

We noticed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Since y'all helped, I thought you might be interested in v1.0 of what I came up with: http://pavao.org/GreatVirtuesofaGamer.pdf

Keep in mind that the original is intended for a 5x8 index card, and the PDF is stretched to fit a letter-sized sheet.

It's not just for Gamers!

I like. Are the participants supposed to score themselves? What with the teaching to take responsibility and all?

The way it works is the kids write the date in the first available row, and put a circle in one of the boxes on that row that corresponds to one of the virtues at the start of the session. Then they keep the card to remind them what the virtues are and what they mean. At the end of the session, the GM (I've got a couple of adult GMs helping me) puts an X in every box that corresponds to a virtue that the kid, in the GM's opinion, lived up to successfully. If there's a circle and an X in the same box, the kid gets to choose one of the prize dice I provide. Of course, you don't get to circle the same virtue if you've done it already until you hit all of them.

Bonus Karma if you can tell me from whence I lifted that particular system.

well being gamers the prerequisite for all of us is that we are virgins, don't bathe, geeky nerds, go "duh" when women talk to us, shut ins that live with our parents still. Since we all share those qualities those should be a given

Wow, that looks good.

Well, it reminds me of

Hm. Things can be done with that, I think, but no. That's not it.

And by "things" I mean "interesting and potentially nifty but a bit complicated for a teaching tool." But now you've got me thinking.

Whenever you say "Virtues" and "Gaming" together, all I can think of is:
- Compassion
- Honor
- Valor
- Humility
- Honesty
- Justice
- Sacrifice
- Spirituality

Abuse of L5R is dangerous for your health, your Daïmyo can help you to stop. Definitely............

*cues some Ultima MIDI tunes*

I have asked - the original source is not a game. But very inspiring.

You're saying the Ultima virtues were taken by Richard Garriot from a non-gaming context and then applied to Ultima?

Pretty sure Ryu was referring to:

I was commenting on Aarons source, but I do think that Garriot had a solid base in the code of chivalry, and likely other sources.

This project has a very strong spiritual aspect. The participants construct role models for gaming, and the system rewards them if their role models behave according to virtues. The path of the righ, real-world style.

Actually, Garriott based his system on Hinduism and The Wizard of Oz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtues_of_Ultima

I based mine on my own concept of gaming and the (non-facetious) feedback I got here and from my blog. =i)

I would hope people would look for something like a set of core values of gaming. That would be a good place to start.

I have no idea what they should be though.

What do you think of the list I compiled from the comments here?

Wow, I just wasted like half an hour reading that carefully and following some of the links.

http://xkcd.com/214/

Vice or Virtue? No matter what, I feel the pain/goodness. Thanks!

You're welcome.