Thanks for making my point for me, sir. A "hostile" is easy. It's you (or someone else) or them. Hell, they even sometimes give you medals for doing it particularly well.

Wetwork is whacking anyone if the price is right, however.
Grandma Gerty hasn't paid her protection in a month. Here's ten grand. Make it messy.
This random teenage boy at the wrong place at the wrong time saw one of my guys during a robbery. Here's ten grand. Make him dead, Deader, DEADEST.
Micky the Mouse is horning in on my corner Nova Coke business. Here's ten grand. Whack that little bitch.

Apples and oranges, my friend...

I have to point out that ten grand is excessive for those jobs. No special skills are necessary. It's $500, $1000 tops.

$500 gets you a gun. If you want the shooter behind it, it is going to cost more.

That 10k is incentive. If you want cheap go use some novacoked up kid with a chip on his shoulder. Now he is most likely going to be messy and he's going to being his novecoked girlfriend with, steal grandma's purse and drugs and then he's going to go and brag about his little deed to all his friends. Now, which one will it be. Expensive but anonymous or the feds breathing up your ass.

Depends on the gun, lady. A good SIG-Sauer pistol runs you between $700-$1200 (I own three of them), but you can get Tokarev or CZ knockoffs for about $200-$500. Anything with long range and kick is definitely 1k or more -- especially if you want it to be semi-auto instead of bolt action. The DS Arms FAL I'm looking at is $1300 and that's without most of the bells and whistles.

But yeah, if you pay the novacoked-up kid to do the job, you'd better go through one Hell of a slick Johnson and make sure he gets his ass to another country after the contract is made. Preferrably a non-extradition country. Like Switzerland or Algeria (I'd suggest Switzerland).

Of course. You just go into your local gun store, hand them your ID, submit to a background check, and let them make a record of the sale. Because, certainly, that is the perfect way to procure a murder weapon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

Nah, the shooter is going to buy a weapon from "some dude" on the street for $50. The gun is hot. Stolen, certainly, probably used in a robbery or two, and has probably changed hands several times, which makes it fairly useful for obfuscating the facts of the case. It's probably a large-caliber magnum revolver, but it could be anything, really. It's not exactly something you can afford to be picky about.

Now, sans witnesses who actually know the perp, stranger homicide is nearly impossible to solve. As long as the novacoked-up kid doesn't get stupid and confess, the likelihood of the police even suspecting him of the crime lies somewhere between slim and none.

And if he does, then what? Unless he knows you personally he won't be able to identify you. The DA can't exactly indict "this dude" and even if he could it wouldn't hurt you. And in the unlikely event that the shooter does correctly identify you, he's still an incredibly unreliable witness made even less reliable by a sweetheart plea deal which sees him serving very little time for a cold-blooded murder. The chances of a successful indictment are low and the chances of a successful prosecution are even lower. Most likely, the worst the DA would do is gt a warrant for your financial records, in which case the small amount of payment is a boon. If you have the dough to spare, then $500 is easy to write off as walkin'-around money. A withdrawal of that amount might be suspicious when combined with the shooter's testimony, but it isn't evidence, not really. On the other hand, a withdrawal of $10,000 is already suspicious on its face. And it is something that the banks have to report to the government. Combined with the shooter's testimony, well its just damning unless you already have a much better explanation for it lined up.

And besides, "Gangland style execution" is much more likely to get attention than "robbery gone bad" is.

Killing a dude isn't rocket science. You walk up to him, shoot him a couple of times, grab his wallet - keep the cash and dump the rest - and keep moving at a brisk walk until you are well away from the scene. Then either toss the gun in the nearest large body of water or sell it to some dude for $50.



Organized crime won't do that, though. Organized crime will just have Vinnie do it and not pay him anything extra, because he's already either a salaried employee or a co-owner who gets a percentage and killing people is considered part of his duties.

Bad choice. Switzerland does extradite foreign criminals, as long as they committed a crime that is a felony in Switzerland too - we won't extradite someone to Iran because he drank alcohol, or is a homosexual.

How do you know Crysalis is a lady?
The profile states "Gender not Set".

You haven't been paying much attention, have you? Crysalis has consistently presented a feminine persona in threads where gender actually mattered.

File off the serial number and dump the gun in a storm drain. If you're worried about pre-recorded ballistics, stage a robbery of your own home a few weeks prior and list the gun as one of the items stolen. It's not that hard.

And then they use acid to burn away the filings and show the serial number from the slightly more dense material underneath the stamping. Doh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)

Or the Robbery/Homicide guys wonder why your house isn't trashed and only the gun was stolen because you forgot about your expensive home entertainment system and other goodies that should have gone out as well. Damn it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)

Less Hollywood, my friends. Real people try to stage stuff like this with a lot more forethought than this thread and get caught at it all the frickin' time because they almost always forget some random rinky-dink thing that nails them to the wall.

I think one of the reasons that people don't like wetwork is because no one ever brings there own mop and bucket.. so some poor slub has to go and clean up after wards every time.

*sigh* you shoot him in his car when he is coming to or from work. Two shots one centre mass, second to the head. You turn around and walk away.

You take the gun apart and drop the parts in different bins around the city.

The .22 pistol is often snubnosed and does not make a sound which readily noticeable as a gunshot. Behind the ear and slightly up and he will be dead.

You can approach him in a bar, behave a bit drunk, stumble and spill his drink. Apologize and buy him a new one and slip him a cyanide pill. Walk out before he dies of what could be cardiac arrest. Alternatively, get him drunk and stab him in the kidneys with a stilletto in an alleyway. Alternatively, spike his drink with a date rape drug and drown him in his bathtub or dump him in the river.

Areas of weakness are habits and vices.

If you want loud: Pipebomb with RDX, the detonator assembly from a grenade, and magnets, pop it into the wheel housing. Arming is with a piece of string from the pin to a nail, which is secured to the tyre. Takes 5 seconds to place and arm.

Claymore mine on the ceiling triggered by infrared sensors on the side of the door. Alternatively same mine in the fridge, but with a mechanical detonator instead of an electric.

Movies are the worse place to get ideas.

My personal favorite claymore mine assassination idea is to swap their car's airbag for the mine...

It depends. Sometimes the mob will keep it "in the family" and sometimes they'll sub-contract. Usually to a street level gang kid in the local city.

What's with all this shootey stuff for whacking the random civilian? All you'd really have to do is hit them on the head with a hammer or something. Then all the gun logistics are irrelevant.

Or just use a defective airbag. Airbags have a lot of punch and have killed before. I really doubt anyone is going to start investigating the corp for defective airbags. Like any corp has every put out such things.

"Did you get the serial numbers off that anvil?"
"They were filed off, but we used acid to burn away the filings. It seems this very anvil was reported stolen from one Mr. Smith, and a background check suggests that he knew the victim personally"
"We have him now!"

That's why you melt the part with the serial numbers, put in /new/ serial numbers, and then file those off.

Sounds simple. Then you drop the anvil.

All this "do this, then that, and then do that and you are home free" talk is applying player knowledge to an in-game problem. The real question should be: Do you have the dice pool to do it? Persumably Armorer + Logic (no Armorer? Oh dear... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif) )

The high payment buys the weapon, the dice pool to use the weapon to ensure best results and if necessary, the dice pool to ensure discretion.

If you're going to be an assassin, you better have some skills in altering your weaponry. Keeps you out of trouble.

If I can just drop my 2 cents. The reason why wetwork sucks is because you generally do not know anything about who you are killing, how powerful they are, and generally it can land you into trouble. Most Johnson's just drop a job in your lap without a team to have a lot of time to find out how the mission is situated. Killing someone is always risky in a world where someone can bust out some crazy insane something or other. Magic, or it's actually a dragon, or some crazy cyberzombie, or maybe you are just ridding the world of the last good person on earth.

Assassination can create extra problems in a world that is already filled with enough of them. I still think there are quite a few runners who will take wetwork, just most will probably prefer safer jobs... like knocking over AAA corp instillations.

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A.) No, I'm not an expert on how to avoid getting caught committing a crime because I'm not a criminal. Mental note: filing serial numbers doesn't work.

B.) I am never going to Finland. Or in any way intentionally getting Chrysalis angry.

Range and reliability issues, probably. No one wants to chase a screaming wounded victim up and down several flights of stairs while repeatedly swinging a hammer. It doesn't take much skill to beat someone to death, but there are more variables, and it isn't as easy as shooting someone to death.

I always figured it'd be easy to screw with their car (sugar in the gas, loosen the tire's air valve, or some such thing) then just strangle them on the side of the road with a wire or extension cord. After which, you get on a plane and go back to your home several thousand miles in any random direction. Then again, if you walked up and offered me ten grand to murder someone, I'd kill them. And, I highly doubt I'd even think about it ever again. I did mention before that I'm a sociopath right? Murder or eating a ham sandwich would likely elicit roughly the same emotional reaction from me, excepting the adrenaline rush of course. But hey, that's just me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)