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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 ![]() |
Discretion is one.
Weigth encumberance another. Time, being chased by multiple bad guys (or one really big bad one like a spirit). Although if I were wearing my 'Assh*le GM' hat, I'd let the RFID tags in the items stolen allow groups of NPCs to rock up to their favorite hideout. I think having their base of operations being blown up once and the entire party sour on one guy for ruining it all would send a not so subtle message. - J. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 17-April 08 Member No.: 15,907 ![]() |
Although if I were wearing my 'Assh*le GM' hat, I'd let the RFID tags in the items stolen allow groups of NPCs to rock up to their favorite hideout. Heck, depending on the group, just start throwing a big batch of dice behind the screen everytime they start looting. If they're not completely thick, one of them will probably metagame it out and suggest a change of plans. If not, well there's been plenty of suggestions here for applying negative reinforcement. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 ![]() |
Tag Erasiers don't always work ether. Just stick some hardened stealth tags in em.
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
Wow. This thread made it to the second page without any reference to the Search Function?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
If they are in a corporate owned facility almost everything is tagged and it's position can be tracked, all the employes have a biomonitor wristband to track them and check their health conditions, sensitive gear (security gear, weapons, keycards, anything valuable) is tied to a biomonitor/container/location/whatever, if said gear has the owner killed/is taken out of the container or location without autorization an allarm is raised and it start broadcasting the position of the runners making their way out much more eventfull (the drones WILL know where to look for the runner); this can be resolved using bags made of wireless inibiting fabbric, but that kind of bags should be used for the important stuff (the one you are supposed to aquire) and going around loaded with several of them is going to cause some eyebrow to raise, the runners also need a wirelessproof place for storing the loot untill it has been cleaned.
Let the players know that looting is possible if safety misures are taken, but it's just not worth the time and effort. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
Ah, that Seach Function..... which happens to be almost a topic in its own.
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The Dragon Never Sleeps ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: 17-April 09 Member No.: 17,088 ![]() |
The sound of Lone Star (or your sprawls equivalent) sirens rapidly approaching is usually all it takes to discourage looting. If you aren't in a sprawl where authorities are likely to arrive quickly, then using the Advanced Safety mod from Arsenal on the first few guns the team attempts to loot should be helpful as well. If they don't notice the gun mod, so much the better, when they try to use the gun for the first time and it does not fire, that will give them a quick wake-up call. Fences won't buy the gun with the mod, and if they sell it to someone on the street for next to nothing, then that person is going to be looking them up when the gun does not work.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,162 Joined: 16-November 07 Member No.: 14,229 ![]() |
He probably adjusted the number of posts he canveiw at a time, rather than using the default. I changed it to 100/page and its showing page 1 for me.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 14-April 09 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 17,079 ![]() |
Speaking of the Search function, but otherwise totally off-topic, can someone tell me what RAW stands for? I've seen it several times already, and the forum won't let me use it as a search term because it's less than four letters.
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
An advance search for "loot" or "looting" using the "search topics only" feature yeilds only about a dozen threads, most identical to this one. But that's cool.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,162 Joined: 16-November 07 Member No.: 14,229 ![]() |
Speaking of the Search function, but otherwise totally off-topic, can someone tell me what RAW stands for? I've seen it several times already, and the forum won't let me use it as a search term because it's less than four letters. RAW = Rules As Written Also related: RAI = Rules As Intended |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,002 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Canada Member No.: 8,494 ![]() |
Just start having security personal with biometric safeties on their weapons. This effectively makes them useless on the black market and to the runners. You can even be nasty and have a one time shocker for someone picking up the weapon that doesn't match the biometric code. I had a GM do that to use when we started picking up Lone Star guns. After two or three weapons we got the hint and never picked up another weapon ever again.
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The Dragon Never Sleeps ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 ![]() |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
Lawgiver them!
"Cool! A Ruger Thunderbolt!" *Boom* "Cool, I can get a cyberhand now!" |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,002 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Canada Member No.: 8,494 ![]() |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) So true, so very true (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 ![]() |
My group actually loots stuff to deal with CSI. Now, we're SR3, but after a battle we collect all spent casings, cleanse the area of magical residue, take all the guns and as much armor as we can, cast Fashion on the armor to make it look like different armor (and occasionally so it can fit us... thank you free medium security armor), cast ignite on all biological matter and all areas where we've been, clean up that magical residue, and occasionally bleach for good measure.
And hey, now our entire group has matching security armor, making it much harder to figure out who the mage is that they have to geek. JaronK |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 ![]() |
My solution is a sort of "all of the above". While I'm not entirely sure about the street prices rule (if a used gun costs seven times as much as its' resale value, fixers must be loaded), I can definitely say that after hacking the biometric security, wiping the (hardened) tags, and finding someone willing to fence guns with 'Shiawase" stamped into the side, it's probably not worth the hassle.
Just give the AI the Lilacor personality as seen in the "Lilacor Mod" in the Elderscrolls games and your good. Actually, this is from Baldur's Gate II. I think I muted the game for a while.... |
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