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post Apr 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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It's irked me for a while that narrow bursts and full auto shots are all or nothing things, surely there must be some way to hit with just a few bullets?

This idea came to me just now. How about, if a character misses, they're allowed to roll the dice they sacrificed for recoil and see if that allowed them to hit. If it did, they treat it as a single bullet hitting and can stage it up with any net successes they score. If not, the whole burst missed.

This doesn't help Sam McSamurai, however, as only dice sacrificed to recoil can be re-rolled. If someone has recoil mods that completely negate recoil, then missing simply meant they were aiming in the wrong direction. It's also not usable with wide bursts, although statistically the chances are the same (+5 dice for attacker instead of -5 for defender) yet this mod can be used against stationary targets).

The real effect of this is to make automatic weapons more versatile for people with less recoil compensation. Is that a lofty goal, or is it something that should be discouraged?
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- Lilt   Automatic Weapons   Apr 29 2009, 09:45 AM
- - Uli   Since your idea would complicate already lengthy c...   Apr 29 2009, 10:06 AM
- - crazyconscript   If you just want to make sure that you hit, thats ...   Apr 29 2009, 10:42 AM
- - Nkari   A wide bursts extra - dice to the defender simulat...   Apr 29 2009, 11:06 AM
- - crazyconscript   actually, the bullet per net hit idea doesnt hold ...   Apr 29 2009, 12:58 PM
|- - Lilt   As for how cheap recoil compensation is: Sure. I d...   Apr 29 2009, 04:55 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Lilt @ Apr 29 2009, 12:55 PM) As f...   Apr 29 2009, 06:16 PM
- - Writer   Remember, the rules are abstracted. There is no d...   Apr 29 2009, 04:54 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Lilt)If someone is firing an automatic weap...   Apr 29 2009, 05:18 PM
- - blindfox   my brain is kinda scattered at the moment but let ...   Apr 29 2009, 06:35 PM
- - Wizard   When firing a burst, recoil should not effect the ...   Apr 30 2009, 12:07 AM
- - blindfox   but a good plan when not in a target-rich environm...   Apr 30 2009, 12:37 AM
- - Wizard   On second thoughts maybe ignoring uncompensated re...   Apr 30 2009, 01:19 AM
- - Writer   I have no problem with RAW covering automatic gunf...   Apr 30 2009, 02:22 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Writer @ Apr 29 2009, 10:22 PM) Al...   Apr 30 2009, 02:36 AM
||- - Writer   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 29 2009, 10:36 PM) ...   Apr 30 2009, 02:22 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Writer @ Apr 30 2009, 10:22 AM) In...   Apr 30 2009, 03:41 PM
||- - Lilt   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 30 2009, 03:41 PM) ...   Apr 30 2009, 05:03 PM
|- - Lilt   QUOTE (Writer @ Apr 30 2009, 02:22 AM) I ...   Apr 30 2009, 12:01 PM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (Lilt @ Apr 30 2009, 08:01 AM) The ...   Apr 30 2009, 02:17 PM
|- - Kingboy   QUOTE (Lilt @ Apr 30 2009, 08:01 AM) The ...   Apr 30 2009, 11:50 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Kingboy @ Apr 30 2009, 07:50 PM) I...   May 1 2009, 01:19 AM
||- - Kingboy   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 30 2009, 08:19 PM) ...   May 1 2009, 03:36 PM
|- - Lilt   QUOTE (Kingboy @ May 1 2009, 12:50 AM) Su...   May 3 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - Kingboy   QUOTE (Lilt @ May 3 2009, 03:25 PM) Again...   May 3 2009, 11:30 PM
- - Fix-it   I thought this was gonna be a thread about weapons...   Apr 30 2009, 02:39 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Fix-it @ Apr 29 2009, 07:39 P...   Apr 30 2009, 03:22 AM
- - Adarael   Quite seriously, I don't think enough PLAYERS ...   Apr 30 2009, 06:34 PM
- - crazyconscript   hehe....oh how i love thee suppression fire and he...   Apr 30 2009, 06:39 PM
- - blindfox   i and my players understand it, only too well whi...   Apr 30 2009, 08:55 PM
- - blindfox   oh, and btw, for some flavor in describing those h...   Apr 30 2009, 10:48 PM
- - kzt   It looked cool in the comics books they used as de...   May 3 2009, 09:04 PM
- - Larme   The firearms rules are crazy unrealistic. Having ...   May 4 2009, 12:20 AM
- - Falconer   Umm... no. No way. Your proposed rule is drek....   May 4 2009, 01:31 AM
|- - Lilt   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 4 2009, 02:31 AM) U...   May 4 2009, 01:31 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Lilt @ May 4 2009, 09:31 AM) I agr...   May 4 2009, 02:35 PM
||- - Writer   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 4 2009, 10:35 AM) F...   May 4 2009, 06:23 PM
||- - Adarael   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 4 2009, 07:35 AM) F...   May 4 2009, 10:02 PM
|||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Adarael @ May 4 2009, 06:02 PM) Th...   May 4 2009, 10:08 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 4 2009, 08:35 AM) F...   May 5 2009, 01:47 AM
||- - Larme   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 4 2009, 08...   May 5 2009, 02:42 AM
|- - Wizard   QUOTE (Lilt @ May 4 2009, 11:31 PM) Nothi...   May 4 2009, 11:06 PM
- - Draco18s   Hey now, they have to at least be hitting the broa...   May 4 2009, 09:48 PM
- - Dr Funfrock   Heavy barrel, shoulder stock and bipod. The avera...   May 5 2009, 03:07 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ May 5 2009, 09:07 AM...   May 6 2009, 11:23 PM
- - Draco18s   I'll modify my original request: Find me a gu...   May 5 2009, 05:00 PM
- - blindfox   if you're trying to find a weapon that fires i...   May 6 2009, 10:12 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (blindfox @ May 6 2009, 04:12 PM) i...   May 6 2009, 11:27 PM
- - Draco18s   Good! Now apply the same logic to ShadowRun: ...   May 6 2009, 10:42 PM
- - Lilt   Well, i do agree that for the most part firing wit...   May 7 2009, 11:02 AM
- - blindfox   i can only see using the sling on a M249 as stabil...   May 8 2009, 02:11 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (blindfox @ May 7 2009, 08:11 PM) i...   May 8 2009, 03:01 AM
||- - blindfox   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 8 2009, 06...   May 8 2009, 03:14 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (blindfox @ May 7 2009, 09:14 PM) w...   May 8 2009, 03:23 AM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (blindfox @ May 7 2009, 09:11 PM) t...   May 8 2009, 09:30 AM
- - Falconer   Lilt: I still stick w/ my point... it's drek....   May 9 2009, 01:40 PM


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