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martindv
post May 22 2009, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 22 2009, 12:22 AM) *
Nope. they are actually quite the same as in other fantasy games. Ancient, superintelligent, superpowered masterminds on crack who are all "Well look at those small pitful creatures around me."
I'd actually love to see a feral Dragon in SR with nothing more in mind but utter destruction and the power to pull it off.

Wyverns, Sea Serpents, young Dragons all fit the role of feral and powerful.

But mindless dragons is its own trope, so you're screwed either way.
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post May 22 2009, 07:44 AM
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Well . . we HAVE a Party-Guy kinda Dragon O.o
And one who goes about his job as every metahuman that has a job does too.
and carries children around on his back, if they ask him nice. o.O
Yeah, i loved those little things, just as i love Dragons of the Sixth World ^^
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post May 22 2009, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 11:14 AM) *
I think it pretty obvious at this point that we're dealing with Promoted Fanboys


Quite.

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- but are we Running The Asylum?


Most likely.

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Has terminal Contuinity Porn set in?


Yes.

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Probably. One was president, they are telepathic, they aren't Color Coded For Your Convenience, and generally aren't the Big Bad.

As for SR's page, last time I read it, yes.

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DONT CLICK ANY LINKS!
It destroys your life! It makes you sensitive to the flow of plot and canon! You think that's good but it isn't! Nothing is fun anymore! STOP!


They have a page for that.
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post May 22 2009, 07:51 AM
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post May 22 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 22 2009, 12:35 AM) *
What are you talking about? There was no Highlander II.
Next someone is gonna claim they made a TV series...
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post May 22 2009, 11:09 AM
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My "Problem" with tropes is, that i lurked there many (quite productive) hours of my life and now i can't watch a movie/go to the theatre/etc and not facepalm at some moment and think "Just like trope XXX". It's horrible in an awesome kind, more often an "I always expect an ambush!" moment.
No, Tropes are fun, but you should be prepared that it takes most surprises. One reason i decided to like Bioshock was, that the big Twist DID surprise me (tough i spoilered it, nevertheless it was a twist where i sat there and thought "What a clever idea!").
I hope someday i can pull off something similar in Shadowrun or roleplaying in general.

QUOTE (MYST1C @ May 22 2009, 11:36 AM) *
Next someone is gonna claim they made a TV series...

Or a cartoon...
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post May 22 2009, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (Kingboy @ May 21 2009, 02:34 PM) *
The real question here is what is Ancient History trying to distract us all away from? Heavens knows it's almost impossible to just "browse" that wiki for anything less than several hours in a sitting...

Grr... I was about to go to bed last night, and then I decided "oh, i'll check DS one more time" I didn't get to bed until 3am somehow... Thanks Uncle Ancient...

At least it's friday and we're playing SR(second) tonight =D
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post May 22 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 22 2009, 01:22 AM) *
I'd actually love to see a feral Dragon in SR with nothing more in mind but utter destruction and the power to pull it off.


Wasn't there a dragon in Europe that had been poisoned to the point of insanity by radiation (or similar toxic environment)?

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post May 22 2009, 12:53 PM
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The recent 2007 game has reunited the fanbase — in declaring how much it sucks due to abandoning both.


For the truth. This is my favorite though:

Mexico Called, They Want Texas Back.

Just look at the wonder that is that title.

Also, you can totally tell that the SR entry was written by people only half-aware of the game.
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post May 22 2009, 04:02 PM
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They could just be players who aren't as stick-in-the-asylum-forever obsessed like we are.
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post May 22 2009, 05:31 PM
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I've been working on it. Get Known, and start Editing!
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post May 22 2009, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 11:10 PM) *
I still think our dragons aren't /that/ different.

The only difference between a SR dragon and a D&D dragon is that SR dragons drink vermouth and smell of Clive Christian's Imperial Majesty.
QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 22 2009, 07:09 AM) *
My "Problem" with tropes is, that i lurked there many (quite productive) hours of my life and now i can't watch a movie/go to the theatre/etc and not facepalm at some moment and think "Just like trope XXX". It's horrible in an awesome kind, more often an "I always expect an ambush!" moment.

The kinda-cool thing about that site is that it gives you an unintentional crash-course in marketing and branding; they're all about tropes. After I earned my degree in design I couldn't watch television without saying, "Oh, in this commercial they're plugging Trope X into Trope Y."
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 22 2009, 08:53 AM) *
For the truth. This is my favorite though: Mexico Called, They Want Texas Back.

That was a big one for GDW's Twilight:2000/2300AD. And I agree they may only be half-aware of SR as there are some seriously obvious ones they missed: Blood Sport (Combat Biking, Urban Brawl, Court Ball), Artificial Limbs, Balkanize Me, Cool But Inefficient (Swords v. guns? Really?), Inside a Computer System, Middle Eastern Coalition (Alliance for Allah), New Neo City (Metropole, Neo-Tokyo, et. all), and Post Modern Magik. I can't find the trope for Super-Tuberculosis That Kills 1/4th of the Planet but the World War III trope comes close.

Shadowrun needs more Patrick Stewart Speeches.
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post May 22 2009, 07:01 PM
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The difference between Shadowrun and DnD dragons is that Shadowrun realizes that they're fsking characters, not just one-stop-shopping for gold, trinkets, and info. Each of the Greats and the few mature dragons we've seen have had plans, goals, personalities, things they're looking to accomplish. Lofy set himself up as a business tycoon. Dunk was a Dragon of the People. Lung and Ryumyo are master and apprentice, eternally bickering. They're people, not loot factories, which is why so many of us (well, okay, me in particular) get attached to the scaly ones.

And of course you can do the same in DnD, but the emphasis is different there. Of course, that's down to different design goals and such.

Damn it, I'm supposed to be working!
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post May 22 2009, 07:18 PM
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SR dragons also don't try to fit themselves into rooms that are too small for them (re: every Gary Gygax dungeon ever).
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post May 22 2009, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 22 2009, 02:08 PM) *
Wasn't there a dragon in Europe that had been poisoned to the point of insanity by radiation (or similar toxic environment)?

-paws

Firewing?
Dead.
Shot down over the Sox, fell into the sox, mutasted into toxic dragon and got nuked from orbit to be sure.
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post May 22 2009, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 22 2009, 02:18 PM) *
SR dragons also don't try to fit themselves into rooms that are too small for them (re: every Gary Gygax dungeon ever).

Look, that's all Tolkein's fault.
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post May 22 2009, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 22 2009, 03:29 PM) *
Firewing?
Dead.
Shot down over the Sox, fell into the sox, mutasted into toxic dragon and got nuked from orbit to be sure.


Could be. My memory fails me. (Yet again.)

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post May 22 2009, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 22 2009, 08:33 PM) *
Look, that's all Tolkein's fault.

That, and so many other things.
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post May 22 2009, 09:30 PM
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That website is what got me re-interested in Shadowrun, so don't knock it.

And it destroyed my life.

*sniff*
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post May 22 2009, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 22 2009, 02:01 PM) *
And of course you can do the same in DnD, but the emphasis is different there. Of course, that's down to different design goals and such.


Monster Manual....5? I think it was introduced the Xorvintaal Dragon template. Basically it turns DnD dragons into evil overlords plotting each other's subjugation. The GM determines the rules of Xorvintaal as he sees fit, assuming he needs to.
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post May 22 2009, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 21 2009, 11:40 PM) *
I challenge anyone to name an RPG franchise that's over fifteen years old that isn't being written by the players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Rifts, Traveller.
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post May 23 2009, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 22 2009, 06:57 PM) *
Monster Manual....5? I think it was introduced the Xorvintaal Dragon template. Basically it turns DnD dragons into evil overlords plotting each other's subjugation. The GM determines the rules of Xorvintaal as he sees fit, assuming he needs to.

Okay, why do you need a template? Give the stupid dragon some character.

I dislike 3.* more and more.
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post May 23 2009, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 22 2009, 07:50 PM) *
Okay, why do you need a template? Give the stupid dragon some character.

I dislike 3.* more and more.


Because they didn't want to write out all the stats. It's "take a dragon and do this to it." (It should be noted that Xorvintaal dragon lose spellcasting, but what they get in return more than makes up for a few sorcerer levels, like "on death, don't" (actually, when they fall below 0 HP they are catatonic and have regeneration ~50 until at full health then wake up, unless what killed them specifically mutilates the body when its done)).
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 22 2009, 07:18 PM) *
SR dragons also don't try to fit themselves into rooms that are too small for them (re: every Gary Gygax dungeon ever).

I still remember running a published dungeon back in the day that was pretty clearly randomly generated. Chock full of random dead ends, etc.

At one point I'd got to a section I hadn't fully read up on and was winging it a bit. Room description indicated there was an irate ancient red dragon in there.

Checked the map. It was a 10'x10' room.

After recomposing myself after the inevitable gigglefit, I told the players when they opened the door that they just saw an enormous angry looking eye.

They looked at it. It looked at them.

They quietly closed the door and moved on.

"I guess we know why it's irate."


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post May 23 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 22 2009, 08:30 PM) *
Shadowrun needs more Patrick Stewart Speeches.

Which one? The one in "Menage a Troi" in Front of the whole bridge? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Firewing?
Dead.
Shot down over the Sox, fell into the sox, mutasted into toxic dragon and got nuked from orbit to be sure.

Rumor has it that she is ... oh my god ... Still Alive (and believe me i am still alive...)
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