 The Subtle Approach to Wetwork, Who, me? No, you must be thinking of somebody else. I could never. |
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 Aug 28 2009, 01:42 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 16-June 09 Member No.: 17,282  |
QUOTE (Udoshi @ Aug 28 2009, 08:49 AM)  I see a few things missing. I am unsure if karma creation has a money cap, so forgive me if you're unable to spend more money. The first is a lack of upgrades on your car. If you're going to pimp it out, do so in character creation. The second is a lack of stealth program on your commlink. As a sneaky guy, you may want to pick up Forgery(credstick) since it isn't in any skillgroup. Data Search 1, at least. You're going to want to look things up, and that stops you from defaulting. Except this is a matrix action, and you can't. If you're seriously short ideas, check if your GM will let you initiate, snag Astral Sight(This lets you assense!), initiate a few times so you actually have a magic rating left after your implants, and snag the metamagics that let you pretend to be mundane(Masking, I think.) I double checked your math real quick, and I don't believe you applied the essence discount for mixing cyberware and bioware; the lesser value counts half. Karma creation has a money gap that I have reached, but there's always some shuffling one can do. I would pimp out my car, but then it wouldn't be Utterly Unremarkable, would it? Which is important to me. My commlink lacks any hacking programs. If I must get them, I'll having my Agent (who can Data Search) track down a pirate network, and buy them on the cheap. Forgery(credstick) is fun, but it might be more profitable to just spoof a high lifestyle. Regardless, I don't think Forgery is very important to me, and if it ever becomes vital, I'll wire it. I'm actually trying to avoid taking too many skills, because so many of them can be taken care of by A. my Agent or B. skillwires. |
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Aug 28 2009, 09:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,390 |
how big is a medkit?
would it be awkward to walk into a bathroom carrying one or pass through security with one? I assume people won't pay any mind, but it does seem a little suspicious. Likely they will not think that you'd be morphing your face, but maybe they'd think you were shooting up or something. |
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Aug 28 2009, 10:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 16-June 09 Member No.: 17,282 |
QUOTE (mmmkay @ Aug 28 2009, 05:48 PM) how big is a medkit? would it be awkward to walk into a bathroom carrying one or pass through security with one? I assume people won't pay any mind, but it does seem a little suspicious. Likely they will not think that you'd be morphing your face, but maybe they'd think you were shooting up or something. That's a good point. However, if I knew in advance the plan would be "my hacker put a good excuse for Joe Normal to enter building X in my SIN, so I get in, go to the bathroom, take the pill I smuggled in, and one minute later I'm the CEO's secretary, at which point...." I think that would be more the idea. Keep a "turn into someone random" pill on me, and use the medkit in the safety of my home to design other forms, and carry those around individually. So if I saw a guy walk into his office and though "damn, I need to look like him RIGHT NOW," I guess I'd be out of luck. But then we're back to the valid point that, caught in the open, I'm pretty slaughterable. Can a False Front create breasts? I know it can alter apparent body mass, so I don't see why not, but... I'm curious. I also intend to have an extensive wig collection. |
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Aug 28 2009, 10:20 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
I like the idea of the armorer kit, it's pretty solid. Come to think of it, with a lot of different types of kits you could probably "sneak" in a broken down shotgun.
QUOTE I also intend to have an extensive wig collection. John Malkovich, Clear and Present Danger. It'd be good for ideas, methinks. |
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Aug 29 2009, 12:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 16-June 09 Member No.: 17,282 |
I love John Malkovich! I'll keep an eye out for it, thanks.
I have to admit I was partially inspired by a bad movie, The International. The Big Bad Evil Corporation uses this guy as a hitman who's incredibly boring, except that he occasionally shoots people in the face for money. |
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Aug 29 2009, 02:21 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Cyberhair would help by not requiring wigs anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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Aug 29 2009, 02:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 16-June 09 Member No.: 17,282 |
Hmmm... but do they make fiberoptic hair that's as convincing as a good wig? Or it does it look/feel like plastic?
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Aug 29 2009, 02:39 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 29 2009, 06:20 AM) John Malkovich, Clear and Present Danger. It'd be good for ideas, methinks. Think you mean In the Line of Fire with Eastwood and Malkovich. |
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Aug 29 2009, 03:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 28 2009, 10:39 PM) Think you mean In the Line of Fire with Eastwood and Malkovich. Crap, that was the one. Clear and Present Danger was Afleck, wasn't it? My bad. |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 602 Joined: 2-December 07 From: The corner of Detonation Boulevard and Fascination Street Member No.: 14,464 |
QUOTE (McAllister @ Aug 28 2009, 06:11 PM) Can a False Front create breasts? I know it can alter apparent body mass, so I don't see why not, but... I'm curious. If I could get my hands on one of those ,I'd never leave the house.(grin)*kanis ducks and covers* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 |
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 28 2009, 11:52 PM) Crap, that was the one. Clear and Present Danger was Afleck, wasn't it? My bad. Harrison Ford? Affleck? Seriously no. Unless they redid this recently. This was also with Willem Dafoe as John Clark. |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Fridley, MN, USA Member No.: 17,522 |
QUOTE (mmmkay @ Aug 28 2009, 04:48 PM) how big is a medkit? would it be awkward to walk into a bathroom carrying one or pass through security with one? I assume people won't pay any mind, but it does seem a little suspicious. Likely they will not think that you'd be morphing your face, but maybe they'd think you were shooting up or something. You know, this post got me thinking, so I checked the rulebooks twice over - nowhere does it say how large a medkit is. Now, assuming that it's comparable to a toolkit for any other profession, it's designed to be pretty minimalist and portable. Extrapolating from that, and based on real-world equivalent toolkits and paramedic kits, then adding another 63 years of technology, I'd be pretty willing to bet that you could disguise a medkit in a briefcase. Either that or you could always see if your GM would let you toss on the Chameleon Coating and run with that... |
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Aug 29 2009, 02:41 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
QUOTE (Marwynn @ Aug 28 2009, 11:42 PM) Harrison Ford? Affleck? Seriously no. Unless they redid this recently. This was also with Willem Dafoe as John Clark. Affleck played a young Jack Ryan in the terrible adaptation of Sum of All Fears. |
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Aug 29 2009, 03:28 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
The one thing about the False Front and magic is that although it will save you from the "mage just sees your real face under it" it won't solve the "mage knows your face is fake as heck" problem. Whether that's an issue depends on the particular mage in question and the situation, I suppose, but generally if a mage is concerned enough about you that he or she is taking the time to assense you, having fake looks probably isn't in your favor. That's just my take on it, of course.
I'm always running up against the magic problem when making infiltration characters, but I suppose that's actually a good aspect of SR: it takes a village. A village populated by hackers, sammies, mages, adepts, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Very cool character though. I like. |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:10 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 |
Just me, but you could spend up mental attributes w/o eliminating the whole perfectly average image.
Nothing wrong w/ playing dumb. He's perfectly average in appearance... but fear the chess like machinations of his mind type deal. You could exhibit some of the characteristics of a true sociopath! (word used properly!). Also, I might look at moving some of the less noticable physical attributes from 3->4 (agility, reaction). (I generally consider 3-4 average, one just under, one just over). |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Fridley, MN, USA Member No.: 17,522 |
Oh, hey... not a bad idea - go all American Psycho with it. I like that... supersmart, but able to fit in by playing dumb.
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Aug 29 2009, 04:26 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
QUOTE (Falconer @ Aug 29 2009, 10:10 AM) Just me, but you could spend up mental attributes w/o eliminating the whole perfectly average image. Nothing wrong w/ playing dumb. He's perfectly average in appearance... but fear the chess like machinations of his mind type deal. You could exhibit some of the characteristics of a true sociopath! (word used properly!). Completely agree. In fact, you could throw "Acting" in as a knowledge skill for support if you want. It would certainly fit with the "fitting in everywhere" goal. |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 16-June 09 Member No.: 17,282 |
I like you people.
And have we come to a conclusion what movie I should be watching? The one with Harrison Ford playing John Malkovich? Sum of All Clear and Present Lines of Fire? I'm so confused. |
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Aug 29 2009, 04:51 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I can't help you on that one, I'm afraid, as I don't recall the scene they're referencing, but I would watch the hell out of Sum of All Clear and Present Lines of Fire. Best. Movie. Evar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 29 2009, 04:54 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
QUOTE (McAllister @ Aug 29 2009, 11:48 AM) I like you people. And have we come to a conclusion what movie I should be watching? The one with Harrison Ford playing John Malkovich? Sum of All Clear and Present Lines of Fire? I'm so confused. Nevermind me, I was getting my movies all juxtaposed. I was thinking it was a Tom Clancy adapted novel, that was the problem. link to movie info. |
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Aug 29 2009, 06:24 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
I would think that cyberhair, especially the higher grades would be fully realistic.
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Aug 29 2009, 09:31 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
QUOTE (McAllister @ Aug 29 2009, 10:48 AM) I like you people. And have we come to a conclusion what movie I should be watching? The one with Harrison Ford playing John Malkovich? Sum of All Clear and Present Lines of Fire? I'm so confused. just garbage bin all that crap and watch some episodes of the Original Mission Impossible. no direct wetwork, but lots of face-work. |
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Aug 29 2009, 09:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 30-May 09 From: Germany Member No.: 17,225 |
Hm... ok, i understand why his physical attributes have to be normal (to look normal, bland). But you could raise your mental ones. Makes it easier: With more charisma you can play your roles better, and still try to be bland while drawing information out of people without them knowing *g*. Maybe higher intuition for precise, careful execution of your plans, or intelligence, so you can learn your roles faster, and plan out your your schemes.
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Aug 29 2009, 09:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Fridley, MN, USA Member No.: 17,522 |
Not to mention high Willpower to avoid having someone coerce your secret out of you, whether by slick talking or by torture...
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