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Kovu Muphasa
post Dec 30 2009, 03:54 PM
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I did this one back a year or so ago.

If someone asked you what Shadowrun was, what would you show them?

What’s In Your Library?

Movies
1] Blade Runner [Nothing to say, but this IS THE MOVIE] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
2] Jonny Mnemonic [2 Streets Sams and a Hacker] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
3] Ronin [The perfect example of a team, including the “New Guy”]
4] Raiders of the Lost Arc [Remember Indy was Hired to find the Ark]
5] The 5th Element [Good old Die Hard in Space]

TV Series
1] Burn Notice [Follow His Rules, and you will be surprised what happens] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
2] The A-Team [You all know it is a Shadowrun game, just accept it.] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
3] CSI: Miami/NCIS {Both} [Look at them sometime as a SR game]
4] Wolverine and the X-Men [Season One, was a great example of how a team could get started]
5] Special Ops Missions {The Military Channel} [Die Hard the Game Show is the only way to describe it]

Animie {Its it own category]
1] Ghost in the Shell [All of them] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
2] Black Magic M66 [The City is a great]
3] G.I. Joe [The Animie that was done was fantastic for the “Near Future Tech”]
4] Cowboy Be-Bop [This is a Shadowrun Team]
5] Tank Police [The LAPD gets M1A1’s] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)



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post Dec 30 2009, 03:56 PM
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:02 PM
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I would show them Silent Mobius, Black Lagoon, Blade Runner, and Snatch.
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:02 PM
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Outlaw Star! A trash talking street punk/ bounty hunter, a kid-genius hacker/mechanic, an amnesiac with strange abilities, a hyperactive combat specialist and a highly philosophical and often mysterious assassin/ martial artist.... this is a shadowrun group in space.
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (Kovu Muphasa @ Dec 30 2009, 05:54 PM) *
TV Series

Leverage.
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Kovu Muphasa
post Dec 30 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Dec 30 2009, 11:11 AM) *
Leverage.

Thank you: I was going to add this one [I have not watched it much], but I could not think of the name.
I do have a bunch of others, but I wanted to keep the list small and I could not remeber the names of many ones I wanted to list.
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:14 PM
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City Come-a-Walkin, Neuromancer, Mirrorshades, Borderland.
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:20 PM
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Movies
- Italian Job, it's a nice example of a Job
- Sneakers, because they're "white hat" runners conned into doing a black hat job by an evil Johnson, and getting even
- Soylent Green, excellent setting background; pollution, economic slump, evil corporations, general malaise
- Cast a Deadly Spell, magic and mythos in "modern" society
- Sin City, mood piece (I like 'noir)
- Enemy of the State, to get people into paranoia mode

And yeah, Blade Runner and Johnny Mnemonic are good too.


Series
- Dresden Files, to get people thinking about magic in modern society
- Hustle, for more social/trickster groups

Anime
- Black Lagoon, they're practically shadowrunners in a feral city
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:21 PM
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Most of my favorite examples are listed above, to them I would add:
  • The Usual Suspects "That you did not know you stole from Lofwyr, is the only reason you are still alive. He needs..."
  • Anything by Whedon, esp. Firefly / Serenity and Dollhouse
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:34 PM
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Aside from the already listed ones:

- Strange Days
- A clockwork Orange
- A Scanner Darkly (wonderful setting piece)
- Equilibrium (Gun Adept)
- Immortel (A bit excentric, but great Cyberpunk movie)
- Way of the Gun
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Dec 30 2009, 11:02 AM) *
Outlaw Star! A trash talking street punk/ bounty hunter, a kid-genius hacker/mechanic, an amnesiac with strange abilities, a hyperactive combat specialist and a highly philosophical and often mysterious assassin/ martial artist.... this is a shadowrun group in space.



Word.

Also, it was stated but look no further than GitS:SAC if you don't understand the matrix in Shadowrun. So many times at the game shop people have confessed to not understanding the matrix in Shadowrun. I tell them to think of or watch Stand Alone Complex and suddenly they get it. There are limits, in that things haven't gone all Eclipse Phase yet, but short of that they have a lot better idea of what it is and a desire to try the rules out.
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post Dec 30 2009, 05:03 PM
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Other Movies I have that both are good to show the game and good Run ideas.

-Flavor [in the this is a Runners Life way]
Harley Davison and the Marlboro Man
Batman [any]
Hellboy
The Whole Ten Yards
Tequila Sunrise
Munich



-Run Ideas
A lot of Hitchcock Movies
The Kingdom
Sahara [The 2005 version not the Bogart version]
Man of the House
Silverado


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post Dec 30 2009, 05:05 PM
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i drop about twenty novels and the corebook in their lap. "this is shadowrun, start reading"
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post Dec 30 2009, 05:23 PM
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A book that really fleshes out a distopian future and has many elements of the shadowrun setting would be Stephen King's (writing under Richard Bachman) The Running Man. For those who haven't read the book, it is VASTLY different from the movie. The only similarity between the book and the movie is that a gameshow is involved and they are trying to kill him. Everything else was changed.
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post Dec 30 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Starglyte @ Dec 30 2009, 01:02 PM) *
I would show them Silent Mobius, Black Lagoon, Blade Runner, and Snatch.


While Snatch does not show a shadowrunning live (although you could say that Boris was a Mr. Johnson when recruited Sol and Vinny to fetch the diamond), it does show how the life in the shadows should look like.

"Do you like dags?"
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post Dec 30 2009, 05:59 PM
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Digital Dead (book) is a great example of the level of tech in many areas and has a good SR type of feel. Its prequel Red Forge of Mars is good, but not so much SR feel to it.

Ghost in the Shell is a perfect example of SR in nearly every way imaginable.

Firefly has the proper outlaw feel to it, and you just substitute 'Central Planets' and 'Rim' with 'Corperations' and 'Shadows' and you basically have SR in space.

Cowboy Bebop, has the hacker, the big fighter, the face/infiltration specialist, and the gun sam.

Also, can't forget I Love Lucy, because her plans always end about as well as a Runner's plan does (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 30 2009, 06:27 PM
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Films:

The Matrix - Beyond the look and the feel, the Matrix is an Ultraviolet node and Neo's a technomancer.

Fifth Element - A brighter, shinier cyberpunk.

Johnny Mnemonic - Essential cyberpunk. Though whoever put that 'jack in the dolphin is owed a commission from Dunk's Will.

Ocean's 11 / 12 / 13 - A quintessential run featuring your ragtag, pulled together at the last minute shadow team.

Gone In Sixty Seconds - Same, but with a much "grittier" bunch of folks.

Constantine - Not the comic, I realize, but a good visual representation of what magic would look like in the Sixth World.

Books:

The Good Thief's Guide to Amsterdam / Paris - Full time author, part time thief gets wrapped up in plots he has no business being in. No cyber, no magic, hell, the guy can barely throw a punch - but this is the literary version of Burn Notice.

Music:

KMFDM - Good technothump with lots of anarchist sound.

OhGr / Skinny Puppy - Technothump with anticulture and protest messages.

Lady Gaga - A shining example of what a simstar would be in the 2070s; smart, technologically savvy, and bombastic. Plus, her music parodies and plays with the darker side of fame and superstardom.

Y.K. and the Seatbelts - The soundtrack to Cowboy Bebop; what more is there to say?

Anime / Manga:

Ghost in the Shell - Anime, manga, and video games. A look at the criminal underworld from a cop's point of view in the high speed technological future. Mostly focuses on cybercrime (with lots of trips into cyberspace) but also touching on everything from AI rights, transhumanism, cybernetic morality, individualism, governmental rights - it's very meaty.

Cowboy Bebop - Bebop is Shadowrun, down to your archetypes: Spike the adept martial artist with a mob history; Jet the ex-cop; Faye the con artist without a past; and Ed and Ein, the hacker kid. Perpetually unlucky when it comes to finishing off a run, but sometimes it ain't about the money. I know nothing about the manga though.

Tenjo Tenge: What happens when adepts of all stripes go to the same school? Tenjo will show you in wincing detail. Manga only, strongly suggest finding it uncut though that makes it fairly NSFW.

Megatokyo: You laugh, but it shows a fluffier version of cyberpunk of the Sixth World. Ignoring the "dating sim" main story, it also touches on AIs, simstars and fame, otaku culture (Japanese otaku), corporate "troubleshooters" (Ed and Dom), megacorporations ("Sony: Live in your world, die in ours") and a good visual depiction of cyberspace and avatars.

Video Games:

Grand Theft Auto - Play it pink mohawk or completely straight, this is what most SR players imagine when they hear "Shadowrun".

Resident Evil - Evil corporation plays god for money and power. Blows up entire city with a nuke, gets away with it. Which part doesn't sound familiar?

Gaming Material:

Shadowbeat - Someone on here recently proclaimed that they had no idea why everyone wants this book so bad. I'll tell you why: it's a great bird's eye view of what the Sixth World looks like outside of the criminal point of view. Discussion of music, television, sports, Sixth World culture; it's like a field guide to the Sixth World.

State of the Art 2063 / 2064 - Specifically, for the culture sections in the back. These are two books that I'm getting my grubby hands on by the end of 2010 or else, and for exactly the same reason as Shadowbeat.

Shadowrun 4a - Brown noser! Seriously Catalyst, you did a great job with this book. I know there's a distinct cry for less fluff, more crunch nowadays, but 4a did an awesome job in presenting an updated Sixth World and giving us a look at what it looks like circa 2072. It's big, its pretty, it shows running in all of its glory, and you even manage to sneak some culture stuff in there.

Television -

Burn Notice - A how to guide to being a runner, including etiquette, running on the fly, and simple ways to get yourself out of trouble. Also emphasizes tact over dakka, which should be ever runner's creed. When you're a spy...
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post Dec 30 2009, 06:42 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take “The Matrix” to show up.
This is my last resort quick description, usually with the header “This is Wrong, but “The Matrix will give you a basic concept, mix it with Harry Potter and the forget everything and start over.”
This get there attention and then they are open to Blade-Runner, Jonny Mnemonic or The Ronin.

What I am surprised about is the number of Shadowrun Players that have no clue what Blade Runner is.


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post Dec 30 2009, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Kovu Muphasa @ Dec 30 2009, 07:42 PM) *
What I am surprised about is the number of Shadowrun Players that have no clue what Blade Runner is.


Is that even possible?
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post Dec 30 2009, 07:10 PM
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The Sega Genesis game.
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post Dec 30 2009, 07:23 PM
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We had a potential player who the interrogation went like this.

Ever Seen Blade-Runner?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Johnny Mnemonic?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Ghost in the Shell?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Ronin?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Tank Police?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Batman, any of them?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen Blade [One I forgot] ?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen The 5th Element?
Answer: Nope!
Ever Seen The Matrix?
Answer: Yes that was a Cool Movie!

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post Dec 30 2009, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Kovu Muphasa @ Dec 30 2009, 12:42 PM) *
What I am surprised about is the number of Shadowrun Players that have no clue what Blade Runner is.


Blasphemy!
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post Dec 30 2009, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Dec 30 2009, 11:02 AM) *
Outlaw Star! A trash talking street punk/ bounty hunter, a kid-genius hacker/mechanic, an amnesiac with strange abilities, a hyperactive combat specialist and a highly philosophical and often mysterious assassin/ martial artist.... this is a shadowrun group in space.


Don't forget the crazy AI and the catgirl.
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QUOTE (Starglyte @ Dec 30 2009, 02:25 PM) *
Blasphemy!


What if I just haven't actually seen it, but I've at least heard of it?
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I've heard of it, I've seen parts of it, but I'm not interested in watching Blade Runner. Huh.
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