 Shock Frills, Can you damage someone blocking? |
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 Jan 23 2010, 11:57 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Brazil Member No.: 15,955  |
Simple question, and i did not find any thread specifying this, so...
If a char is wearing a shock-frilled modified armor and blocks and incoming attack using the Unarmed Combat Skill, does the shock frills do damage as usual? If the discarge is automatic, there is no reason not to. If it uses a free action to activate, then i suppose it is not possible, but in the SR4a, it only says it uses the unarmed attack skill to use. |
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Jan 23 2010, 02:06 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE Shock Frills: Th ese strips of “fur” are electrically charged when activated, standing on end and infl icting Electricity damage (p. 154) to anyone that comes into contact. this modifi cation must be used with the nonconductivity modifi cation (so that the wearer does not get shocked). Use unarmed Combat to attack with the frills. Th e frills hold 10 charges; when attached to a power point, they reload one charge per 10 seconds. Seems to indicate that someone punching is going to get zapped unless you dodge out of the way. |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 602 Joined: 2-December 07 From: The corner of Detonation Boulevard and Fascination Street Member No.: 14,464 |
hmm, wonder if i can put these on my Monkey emotipet?
i can call him" Shock, the monkey" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 23-March 06 From: Drowning in the pollution of Mass Bay Member No.: 8,401 |
Slightly off topic but...
Whenever I read the Shock Frills entry I can't help but think of those old women who wear the feather-boas. |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Brazil Member No.: 15,955 |
QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 23 2010, 02:06 PM)  Seems to indicate that someone punching is going to get zapped unless you dodge out of the way. Yes, so i thought, but i am pondering if that's not broken. Because, well, the user of the frills is getting a free attack, essencially. He can attack with the frills on his IP and again whenever he is attacked in unarmed combat. |
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Jan 23 2010, 05:02 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Garou @ Jan 23 2010, 10:55 AM) Yes, so i thought, but i am pondering if that's not broken. Because, well, the user of the frills is getting a free attack, essencially. He can attack with the frills on his IP and again whenever he is attacked in unarmed combat. Couple things that stop this being broken. First off, the frills only have 10 charges, so you can only use them for a fairly limited time as a double attack. Second, only melee opponents are going to get zapped with this, and likely only unarmed opponents. Third, You can replicate the attack part with shock gloves, so that isn't too impressive. Fourth, you have to have the insulation mod with it and the two combined take up a fairly big chunk of your armor's capacity. It is mostly good for stopping the unarmed adept pounding you into paste in one move, gives you some defense even without a weapon and so on. It is nice, but it isn't exceedingly powerful. Remember though that they actually have to hit you (or you have to use unarmed block to stop the attack) for the frills to work. If you dodge out of the way or parry the attack (completely that is), they won't get zapped. |
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Jan 23 2010, 05:05 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 660 |
It's hard to see that as broken when everyone in SR3 could beat up everyone that attacked them not on their own turns.
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Jan 23 2010, 06:12 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Moomin @ Jan 23 2010, 10:05 AM) It's hard to see that as broken when everyone in SR3 could beat up everyone that attacked them not on their own turns. Woe for the demise of the Counterstriking of Unarmed Combat from 3rd Edition... Though I am not really all that broken up about it... Keep the Faith |
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Jan 23 2010, 08:35 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,206 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
It seems as if the System has moved (SR3 to SR4) to a simpler mechanic in which damage is dealt to an opponent only during attack.
Then you read about Energy Aura. If it can do damage while defending, it is hard to argue shock frills can't. |
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Jan 23 2010, 09:39 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 23 2010, 01:35 PM) It seems as if the System has moved (SR3 to SR4) to a simpler mechanic in which damage is dealt to an opponent only during attack. Then you read about Energy Aura. If it can do damage while defending, it is hard to argue shock frills can't. This is oh so true... Shock Frills, for all intents and purposes, are a technological Energy Aura... Keep the Faith |
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Jan 25 2010, 05:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Brazil Member No.: 15,955 |
True that. I forgot about Energy Aura. Thanx guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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