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> Statement from CGL regarding financial situation, Addressing the rumors
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Apr 6 2010, 08:06 PM) *
It's a card game by WildFire, about monkeys flinging Poo at each other. Last monkey that isn't covered wins!


I couldn't tell if you were joking or not, so I had to check the website.

Turns out you're not.
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:37 PM
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There is a press release up on the CGL website about the issue. It's short, so here it is in its entirety:


Catalyst Game Labs Negotiating To Part Ways With WildFire And Posthuman Studios

Catalyst Game Labs is currently engaged in negotiations to end its agreements with WildFire and Posthuman Studios. Once the terms are finalized, Catalyst will no longer publish CthulhuTech or Poo: The Card Game for WildFire, nor will they co develop and publish Eclipse Phase for Posthuman Studios.

“It’s been fantastic to be involved with growing CthulhuTech alongside WildFire, while also launching Posthuman Studios’ Eclipse Phase,” said Randall Bills, Managing Developer. “We love both of these universes and want to seem them grow and flourish. However, in our current situation we need to re-focus on our core brands of BattleTech and Shadowrun, while developing our original games. As such, while we are parting ways with both companies, we’ll be doing everything we can to support WildFire and Posthuman Studios as they assume the full mantle for their game lines.”

Future details surrounding CthulhuTech will be found at www.cthulhutech.com, while future Eclipse Phase details will be found at www.eclipsephase.com.
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:43 PM
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (knasser @ Apr 6 2010, 07:21 PM) *
I couldn't tell if you were joking or not, so I had to check the website.

Turns out you're not.


It's even nominated for an Origins award. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Apr 6 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (knasser @ Apr 6 2010, 02:21 PM) *
I couldn't tell if you were joking or not, so I had to check the website.

Turns out you're not.

CGL got a pre-version on last years GenCon... it was quite funny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 7 2010, 06:36 AM
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Well at least Eclipse Phase is still going to go ahead one way or another, which I'm happy about.
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post Apr 7 2010, 12:17 PM
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Mar 17 2010, 11:36 AM) *
I don't understand. The company is voluntarily disclosing this information? As in, without prompting, admitting fault and accepting responsibility?

They must be hiding something...


^Totally agree^

And this is how to spot a Shadowrun player. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) If a company is coming out with informations... it must mean they're hiding something!
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post Apr 21 2010, 07:07 AM
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It looks like Catalyst Gaming Labs has filed for Chapter 7:

http://ia331218.us.archive.org/3/items/gov....504666.1.0.pdf
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post Apr 21 2010, 07:19 AM
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As I understand it others, among them Wildfire LLC, have filed for Chapter 7, which is involuntary bankruptcy, against IMR.
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post Apr 21 2010, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (krainboltgreene @ Apr 21 2010, 09:07 AM) *
It looks like Catalyst Gaming Labs has filed for Chapter 7:

http://ia331218.us.archive.org/3/items/gov...0467666.1.0.pdf


Unfortunately your link is quite dead.
And afaik they have not done this themselves but they have been filed ... by WildFire LLC and 2 other individuals.
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post Apr 21 2010, 01:55 PM
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Chapter 7 Link1 and Link2.
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post Apr 21 2010, 02:10 PM
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The new links seem to confirm that IMR Specifically is filing chapter 7 because (per the links) Jean-Phillippe Sugarbroad, Paul H. Stansel and Wildfire LLC wanting to be paid. This isn't CGL as a whole, and it's a total of just under $60k, which isn't a *huge* sum for a company, but is still fairly significant.

We'll have to see where things go.
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post Apr 21 2010, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (WinterScale @ Apr 21 2010, 04:10 PM) *
The new links seem to confirm that IMR Specifically is filing chapter 7 because (per the links) Jean-Phillippe Sugarbroad, Paul H. Stansel and Wildfire LLC wanting to be paid. This isn't CGL as a whole, and it's a total of just under $60k, which isn't a *huge* sum for a company, but is still fairly significant.

We'll have to see where things go.


Again, IMR is not filing anything, it is summoned to court.
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post Apr 21 2010, 02:49 PM
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I'm on the hunt for a GM for SR4, but all this intrigue and crime ranging from the company with the license to Shadowrun to its writers to its partners even to the moderators on this forum is inspiring me to start writing a new campaign. 格好良い!
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:22 PM
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Wait, so those 3 entities are petitioning Chapter 7 *for* IMR, involuntarily?

This don't make no sense to me. Glad I'm not a financial dude.
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:23 PM
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WinterScale: They're trying to force IMR to liquidate their assets to pay back their debts. Something IMR would not normally do, because hey, they want to stay in business.
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:55 PM
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Ah. That makes sense. Sucks for IMR, but that's what happens when you don't provide proper oversight of your employees and allow people to go unpaid while others pilfer the coffers.
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post Apr 21 2010, 06:16 PM
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So all in all not good for IMR.
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post Apr 21 2010, 07:26 PM
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It appears since the negotiations on April 6th, negotiations with wildfire have gone badly......now the lawyers get involved.
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post Apr 21 2010, 08:28 PM
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CGL. What a bunch of dandelion-waving, corp-puffs. If management had any sense, they'd take this time to crack open one of the very books they're trying to sell for a tip: Shadowrun. They should already have a Johnson scoping out teams for runs against their debtors to grab some leverage. "Oh, we have a report that your CEO has been using per diem coverage on prostitutes and blow. Here are the pics our runne... a concerned whistleblower anonymously sent to us. How about dropping the Chapter 7 lawsuit so we can both clean these things up quietly and move forward as partners?" Meanwhile, Team2 does a smash and grab on CGL's own turf thinking they're working for a debtor. They clean out a batch of fresh freelance writing (the "paydata" or so they think) and drop a few viruses behind... Viruses that CGL's own spiders wrote to wipe out any trace of the embezzl.... co-mingling. And when they come back for payment? They're actually set up at a meet in a warehouse with all the unpaid freelancers who think they're getting a private meet with Coleman (where they intend to exact vengeance). The scene erupts into a firefight finished off by a rocket through the window courtesy of Team3. CGL laments their losses to the public regaining valuable face and sympathy and vaults back onto their high horse with a much anticipated SR5.

What a wasted opportunity otherwise! It's a shame they don't have any writers left with the creativity to concoct such an "out".
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post Apr 21 2010, 08:41 PM
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Spamming different threads with repeated posts is against the ToS.
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post Apr 21 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Apr 21 2010, 04:41 PM) *
Spamming different threads with repeated posts is against the ToS.


Looks like the same thread to me (compare titles), and do the Terms of Service specify two posts as spamming?

Like I said when I joined, I have serious reservations about the level of moderating done here.
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post Apr 21 2010, 08:57 PM
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If you've posted the exact same text in another thread, there is no reason to repeat it without specifically mentioning something like "Crossposting this from the other thread because ______" so people know *why*you're putting the same stuff in multiple places.

Otherwise, yes, it can be considered spamming.

Not to mention they aren't the same thread. Similar titles != exact same thread. Heck, that one is a Speculation thread, this one is the actual statements from the company thread. Fact != Speculation either.
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:03 PM
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I don't want to hear some overanxious, rules lawyer call two posts to two threads discussing the same subject spamming. If you're looking to abuse your moderator status, then kick me off. You've got plenty of posters who will take that apparently. I'm not one of them.
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