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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
That much has been consistent throughout editions, DWC: The units basically had soldiers returning to their home states, and I'm not sure how the hell they handled the navy or air force throughout the various secessions. It may well have been incredibly chaotic - especially since most of the military in the US? Comes from the South, if I recall correctly.
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
The UCAs kept the mainstay of the expensive toys, and the CAS focused on defense against Aztlan, if I remember NAGNA correctly. The nukes were split more or less evenly, sinc eboth states wanted to at least have a tool to make the Natives bleed should they feel like another magical warfare attack.
The transistion is supposed to have gone smoothly, and judging from various tidbits, the UCAS maintained the old US army and it's structure for the most part, whereas the CAS created a new army from scratch using their national guards as a baseline. Also, units split according to where the soldiers wanted to go, not where they were from. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 ![]() |
The nukes were split more or less evenly, sinc eboth states wanted to at least have a tool to make the Natives bleed should they feel like another magical warfare attack. However, of the portions of the weapons complex that are in the remaining UCAS/CAS land, pretty much all of the infrastructure for maintaining those nukes is in, as the Simpsons put it, "Southern states where the governor is a crook". (Actually, that's where Simpsons said that the nuclear waste was supposed to go, but it applies to the weapons complex too.) |
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
QUOTE However, of the portions of the weapons complex that are in the remaining UCAS/CAS land, pretty much all of the infrastructure for maintaining those nukes is in, as the Simpsons put it, "Southern states where the governor is a crook". (Actually, that's where Simpsons said that the nuclear waste was supposed to go, but it applies to the weapons complex too.) Given that Ares is effectively the American industrial-military complex gone rogue, I'dsuppose those facilities are now Ares'property. They gotta manufacture their Damocles nukes somewhere. |
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King of the Hobos ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 ![]() |
The nukes were split more or less evenly, since both states wanted to at least have a tool to make the Natives bleed should they feel like another magical warfare attack. Yup. According to State of the Art 2064, QUOTE When the old US of A split apart, so did its nuclear triad. The CAS inherited most of the US sub fleet, the UCAS got the silos in the Dakotas, and the two divided the bomber force between them. Both keep them up-to-date, the UCAS to ward off the threat of another Ghost Dance, the CAS to discourage the Azzies from moving further north. Makes sense when IIRC Rigger 3 has the CAS pretty much limited to a brown/green water navy but a submarine force on par with the best of the rest of the world. However, of the portions of the weapons complex that are in the remaining UCAS/CAS land, pretty much all of the infrastructure for maintaining those nukes is in, as the Simpsons put it, "Southern states where the governor is a crook". (Actually, that's where Simpsons said that the nuclear waste was supposed to go, but it applies to the weapons complex too.) Since the breakup was fairly amicable and they agreed to split the nuclear stocks pretty much down the middle I could see some sort of agreement being made for the CAS to offer the services of the nuclear sites for servicing until the UCAS finishes building their new ones, which would probably be if not defence priority one then definately in the top three or four.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 23-March 10 From: Nashville, TN, CAS Member No.: 18,348 ![]() |
The UCAs kept the mainstay of the expensive toys, and the CAS focused on defense against Aztlan, if I remember NAGNA correctly. The nukes were split more or less evenly, sinc eboth states wanted to at least have a tool to make the Natives bleed should they feel like another magical warfare attack. The transistion is supposed to have gone smoothly, and judging from various tidbits, the UCAS maintained the old US army and it's structure for the most part, whereas the CAS created a new army from scratch using their national guards as a baseline. Also, units split according to where the soldiers wanted to go, not where they were from. What happened to facilities in the CAS? In the campaign I run (based in the CAS) all of them in the CAS went to the CAS, along with their units that wanted to. The big question was Ft. Campbell, on the TN/KY border. I had it go to the CAS with the 101st relocated/renamed for the UCAS, the CAS keeping the 101st name, but new people. -M&P |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 27-November 09 From: Los Angeles, PCC Member No.: 17,905 ![]() |
I imagine the culture of the CAS would be heavily influenced by the Aztlan border and Aztechnology. Maybe a seige mentality has taken hold, the feeling that Aztlan could invade at any moment and wouldn't it be better to invade them first? I know, the relative sizes of the countries keeps that second option from happening but I can sure envision a heavy "Join the military" program in schools and a certain social advantage to being in the reserves. "What? You're not in the reserves? You wouldn't fight to defend the last bastion of the good ol' U.S. of A.? Jerk!" I've always envisioned that the CAS has a slight military culture that prevails everywhere. Enlisting in the military is a rite of passage in rural areas and is seen as a viable way to get out of the sprawl. The standing CAS Army is relatively small and mostly focused on border security, but is very professional, exceptionally well trained and carries a high level of Esprit de Corps that is just as good (or even the equal of) the Sioux, despite being technologically inferior to the UCAS, Aztlan/Aztech, or the PCC. The bulk of the manpower is mostly in State Guard units that, while run by the individual states, enjoy high levels monetary support from the BoD in Atlanta and a high degree of cross-training between the states and the Army. Again, serving in the Guard is just "what you do" one weekend a month for a lot of people. Several CAS-born CEOs and executives of CAS-based AA corps show their patriotism (or a cleverly crafted marketing image) by putting on the uniform for a few days a year. One CEO never bothered to get a commission after college, and "Sergeant Major CEO" is something of a minor national celebrity garnering national media attention when she does her reserve duty for one month every year, just as she has done for the last 20. The CAS Navy, on the other hand, is second to none amongst its neighbors. While it has less in the way of big budget, sexy ships like Supercarriers, it has numerous smaller ships that take heavy advantage of Drone technology for intelligence, targeting, attack, and defense. The Submarine Service is the "elite club" amongst sailors and Naval Officers, and it owns the Gulf of Mexico through a combination of manned Stealth Hunter/Killer submarines, "Mothership" subs for underwater drone "Undersea High-Speed Attack Craft", and the only known Submersible Aircraft Carriers in existence. The CAS Coast Guard is a very professional force that has a high degree of real-world competency due to daily clashes with smugglers and pirates operating out of the Caribbean League. The CAS Air Force is the most technologically stunted compared to the UCAS or Aztlan, mostly due to the lack of a domestic bleeding-edge Aerospace Corp. Mostly made up of previous-generation airframes, the pilots have been known to pull some amazing performance out of their machines beyond original expectations. Air Defense is mostly the auspice of the Army and Navy, with the Air Force mostly serving as an Air Superiority force in the interior of the country. By far the greatest advantage the CAS has overall is the high degree of competency of its strategists, tacticians, and analysts. Again, since the military is seen as an "honorable" southern profession, ROTC program participation is very high, and the CAS has several exceptional military colleges in addition to their national service academies. It is quite common for a Confederationist to turn down a high-paying private sector job for a military commission right out of college. |
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
QUOTE The CAS Navy, on the other hand, is second to none amongst its neighbors. While it has less in the way of big budget, sexy ships like Supercarriers, it has numerous smaller ships that take heavy advantage of Drone technology for intelligence, targeting, attack, and defense. The Submarine Service is the "elite club" amongst sailors and Naval Officers, and it owns the Gulf of Mexico through a combination of manned Stealth Hunter/Killer submarines, "Mothership" subs for underwater drone "Undersea High-Speed Attack Craft", and the only known Submersible Aircraft Carriers in existence. The CAS Coast Guard is a very professional force that has a high degree of real-world competency due to daily clashes with smugglers and pirates operating out of the Caribbean League. Inclined to agree with you for the most part, but canon has it the CAS operates an old Nimitz. I'd suppose the carrier would serve as the flagship of a Caribbean Fleet (Possibly a descendant of the 4th fleet, just with a carrier group instead of landing ship), as a big stick to keep Aztlan in check. The subcarriers would heavily rely on drones, so a Nimitz and the bigger, more powerful attack planes it could carry would supplement them well. Wouldn't say only submersible carriers, though. The CAS isn't top of the tech. Maybe the only fleet that actually relies on them for fighter deployment, though, as opposed to support and espionage roles, as a kind of glorified Heimdall carrier. FWIW, here's the canon ships I found, so far: QUOTE CSS Atlanta (aging but still operational Nimitz class supercarrier, formerly USS Kennedy) [NAgtNA] CSS Merrimac class(CAS missile cruiser class) [Cyberpirates] CSS Stuart class(The most up to date patrol corvette class of the CAS navy, produced by Ares in large numbers. Primarily used for coastal defense and carrying missiles, some have been fitted as fire support for land operations, sub hunters, or to insert commando units.) [Cyberpirates] CSS Savannah class(modern diesel-electric submarines that see wide use in the CAS navy.) [Rigger 3r] List does by no means profess to be complete. |
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