 An evil mage, How to make a blood mage balanced? |
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 Jun 19 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (Lansdren @ Jun 19 2010, 10:13 AM)  where in my post did I mention metamagics? My points were you cant use a clone because most importantly it wont awaken, and while more abstract in the rules the imprint would not have that taint of blood magic. I mentioned nothing about metamagic in any way. It is a common occurrence in the fluff to imply bad stuff effects your aura which would mean a clone wouldnt have the same aura as it has not gone though the same things as the original but point two is mostly beaten by point one which is the main show stopper to faking up the body. I'm not really against the clone not having the aura of the origional, but I don't see anything in the blood magic section which staples a pink neon sign to your soul saying "Blood magic". There is no real way anyone should know you're a blood mage unless they see you using blood magic |
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Jun 19 2010, 08:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 |
Considering the potential abuses of Sacrifice ("I summon an army of F12 spirits of man in my off time, killing a few bums to take no drain, and have them cast all my spells for me"), I might just go with Calling blood and shadow spirits. I love the Calling rules; I wish they had been used as the core spirit summoning mechanic.
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Jun 19 2010, 10:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,444 Joined: 18-April 08 Member No.: 15,912 |
QUOTE (Tyro @ Jun 19 2010, 01:43 PM) Considering the potential abuses of Sacrifice ("I summon an army of F12 spirits of man in my off time, killing a few bums to take no drain, and have them cast all my spells for me"), I might just go with Calling blood and shadow spirits. I love the Calling rules; I wish they had been used as the core spirit summoning mechanic. I just see something like that as getting you killed pretty fast. I'm pretty sure blood magic leaves a 'stain' on the body which could be detrimental to your MO. Also you're likely going to burn through services with those spirits of man pretty fast. Keep in mind, while you might be able to handle the drain, you are not likely to beat them on the binding checks very easily. They have 24 dice. |
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Jun 19 2010, 10:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 |
QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 19 2010, 03:47 PM) I just see something like that as getting you killed pretty fast. I'm pretty sure blood magic leaves a 'stain' on the body which could be detrimental to your MO. Also you're likely going to burn through services with those spirits of man pretty fast. Keep in mind, while you might be able to handle the drain, you are not likely to beat them on the binding checks very easily. They have 24 dice. F12 might be excessive, but my basic premise is still valid. I'll be using the Black Magic tradition, and the spirit selection sucks pretty hard. Any ideas for creative uses of said spirits (Fire/Water/Earth/Air/Man)? |
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Jun 20 2010, 04:17 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Don't forget about Blood Fetishes from page 14 of Digital Grimoire, if it is at your disposal.
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Jun 27 2010, 04:59 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 |
I have reached a new threshold of evil.
Before, he was pretty twisted. He had a blood fetish for manipulation spells (levitate and control thoughts), and another for detection spells. He liked to torture people. Still, pretty boring. Then I gave him a new Interests skill. Singing (+2 Filk & Musical Theater) MUHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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Jun 27 2010, 05:23 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Is his name Sweeny Tod?
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Jun 27 2010, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Jun 19 2010, 10:48 AM) I have no problem with Infected, because they have a cost that seems to be balanced. The amount of work to get an Infected to the same level as a non-infected is ridiculous, except for the number of tricks I've learned. Except the biggest flaws are things like being hunted. The problem with those kind of flaws is they are also flaws on the rest of the party. How exactly did the street sam get a power up because you decided to take hunted by everyone on earth. |
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Jun 27 2010, 06:10 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Tyro @ Jun 19 2010, 04:53 PM) F12 might be excessive, but my basic premise is still valid. I'll be using the Black Magic tradition, and the spirit selection sucks pretty hard. Any ideas for creative uses of said spirits (Fire/Water/Earth/Air/Man)? I actually like that spread of Spirits myself... Keep the Faith |
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Jun 27 2010, 06:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
Even thought it's exactly the same as the basic Hermetic Tradition, just in a different order? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 27 2010, 07:37 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jun 27 2010, 11:38 AM) Even thought it's exactly the same as the basic Hermetic Tradition, just in a different order? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Even though... But I tend to re-Sleeve the descriptors depending upon my Traditions, so even though they are just the Standard 4 Elements + Man, they are recast as various stereotypical Manipulator types (Devils/Demons Imps, etc.) who try to turn thigs to their advantage... At least for me, it makes the spirits more interesting if they actually take on the flavor of the Tradition as a whole. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Keep the Faith |
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