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post Jun 17 2010, 11:57 PM
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I just received a preview pic of the Sixth World Almanac--it's up on the website, so take a look. Just a note--that's not a final print on the right, it's the cover stuck on some dummy pages. Hope you like the looks of it!

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post Jun 21 2010, 12:14 PM
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An Update of the Wordman map based on the SR Almanach map for printout would be cool. Not gonna mutilate my map by pinnig it anywhere.
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post Jun 21 2010, 01:27 PM
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So you're telling me that the art a lot of people said was sexist is drawn by a woman?
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post Jun 21 2010, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 21 2010, 08:27 AM) *
So you're telling me that the art a lot of people said was sexist is drawn by a woman?


That'd be correct, yes.
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:08 PM
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Women can be sexist too, you know.
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 21 2010, 02:14 PM) *
An Update of the Wordman map based on the SR Almanach map for printout would be cool. Not gonna mutilate my map by pinnig it anywhere.


I hope someone skilled with Illustrator picks that idea up after SWA is released. I've done a vector map for a completely other game, but it was amateurish at best.
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 21 2010, 09:27 AM) *
So you're telling me that the art a lot of people said was sexist is drawn by a woman?


And one of her favorite models, Miss Miami 06 was the subject. As mentioned on her facebook wall.

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post Jun 21 2010, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 21 2010, 06:14 AM) *
An Update of the Wordman map based on the SR Almanach map for printout would be cool. Not gonna mutilate my map by pinnig it anywhere.


You could get a frame for it if you wanted to hang it up, sans damage. I did that with the original SR art.
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post Jun 21 2010, 08:40 PM
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-- Depending on how the print map looks you may have a topologically correct shapefile/Google Earth KMZ for Shadowrun after I get the book (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 22 2010, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jun 21 2010, 03:40 PM) *
-- Depending on how the print map looks you may have a topologically correct shapefile/Google Earth KMZ for Shadowrun after I get the book (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


That would be awesome beyond words...

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post Jun 22 2010, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Lucyfersam @ Jun 22 2010, 05:07 PM) *
That would be awesome beyond words...

Lucy

Oh yes it would be.

Would the file include all other info found via googlemaps, and just offer another overlay then? I admit I never tried to mod google earth before.

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True, that's a possibility.
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post Jun 22 2010, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 22 2010, 04:56 PM) *
Oh yes it would be.
Would the file include all other info found via googlemaps, and just offer another overlay then? I admit I never tried to mod google earth before.

-- The KMZ would just be an overlay for Google Earth/Google Maps (with some annotation). The shapefile will be much more useful, suitable for actual analysis if you wished. You can manipulate shapefiles in pretty much any GIS package ever made (SAGA GIS is a good free package).
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post Jun 22 2010, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 21 2010, 03:08 PM) *
Women can be sexist too, you know.

Or the market they sell their work to can be.
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 22 2010, 03:16 PM) *
Or the market they sell their work to can be.


Ever consider women find the female figure as beautiful as us males do? I like both covers she has coming, I actually like the majority of the art I saw on her site. If you don't like it as a cover blame the editor that accepted it not the artist that created it.
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post Jun 24 2010, 06:35 AM
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I explored the map and noticed that Spitsbergen belongs to the Trans-Polar Aleut Nation. It's strange because Spitsbergen is listed as a part of the Scandinavian Union in Running Wild. When I looked it up in the old SR3 books of a friend, I found some more info: It was a part of Norway in Dragons of the 6th World, which makes sense, since Norway belongs to the Scandinavian Union. In Target Wastelands however, Spitsbergen is a part of the T-PAN again. So what happened there? I'd like to know, because I'm preparing a run into this icy realm.
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post Jun 24 2010, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (Congzilla @ Jun 24 2010, 02:04 AM) *
Ever consider women find the female figure as beautiful as us males do?

QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 21 2010, 03:08 PM) *
Women can be sexist too, you know.
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post Jun 24 2010, 07:58 AM
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Ever consider women find the female figure as beautiful as us males do?

About 5% of them do.

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If you don't like it as a cover blame the editor that accepted it not the artist that created it.

True enough.

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I explored the map and noticed that Spitsbergen belongs to the Trans-Polar Aleut Nation. It's strange because Spitsbergen is listed as a part of the Scandinavian Union in Running Wild. When I looked it up in the old SR3 books of a friend, I found some more info: It was a part of Norway in Dragons of the 6th World, which makes sense, since Norway belongs to the Scandinavian Union. In Target Wastelands however, Spitsbergen is a part of the T-PAN again. So what happened there? I'd like to know, because I'm preparing a run into this icy realm.

That's one territory that frequently changes hands because people who draw maps pay little attention to such details. Just assume the newest map is right, and in this case, blame the Crash. the ScandU sold Spitsbergen because, I dunno, mana storms ot shedim polar bears or something. And Running Wild is getting it wrong.

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post Jun 24 2010, 12:35 PM
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I like the idea of shedim polar bears!
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post Jun 24 2010, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 24 2010, 01:58 AM) *
About 5% of them do.


Given what I see walking by any rack of magazines, I would say a whole lot more than 5% of women find the female form attractive, even if they are not sexually attracted. Women's magazines have just as high of a preponderance of scantily clad women on the covers as men's magazines.
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post Jun 24 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Lucyfersam @ Jun 24 2010, 09:04 AM) *
Given what I see walking by any rack of magazines, I would say a whole lot more than 5% of women find the female form attractive, even if they are not sexually attracted. Women's magazines have just as high of a preponderance of scantily clad women on the covers as men's magazines.


That's a different appeal, the 'be like me appeal' that leads to guys with six-pack abs on Men's Health and whatnot.
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post Jun 24 2010, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Kid Chameleon @ Jun 24 2010, 11:16 AM) *
That's a different appeal, the 'be like me appeal' that leads to guys with six-pack abs on Men's Health and whatnot.


Like I said, a non-sexual attraction. The source of the appeal does not affect the end result that sexualized women appeal to both genders considerably more than sexualized men, no sexism necessary.

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post Jun 24 2010, 04:37 PM
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Given what I see walking by any rack of magazines, I would say a whole lot more than 5% of women find the female form attractive, even if they are not sexually attracted.

The point was 'like men do'. Yes, the female form is perceived differently from the male by women, no questioning that.
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post Jun 24 2010, 08:37 PM
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In any case, it's closer to 10%.
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post Jun 24 2010, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (Tyro @ Jun 24 2010, 03:37 PM) *
In any case, it's closer to 10%.


I would say it is higher than that, probably more around 50% or more. There is a difference between seeing something as attractive and being sexually attracted to it.
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post Jun 24 2010, 11:06 PM
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I would say it is higher than that, probably more around 50% or more. There is a difference between seeing something as attractive and being sexually attracted to it.

The point is sexual attraction though. 10% is pretty high for an open society. Of course, in societies with stringent segregation of the sexes, 50% or more is a viable assumption.
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post Jun 25 2010, 07:22 PM
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Actually the percentage of the amount of bi and gay girls goes up a -whole- lot when you consider the artistic community by itself and not society as a whole. I can vouch that most of the other female artists I've run across are not straight.
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