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post Jul 22 2010, 12:49 AM
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I was reading Bourdain’s new book Medium Raw and it brought up something very interesting in food culture. In the dystopian world of SR how often do we hear that the ultra wealthy eat ‘real’ food while we get by on soy caf and krill burgers(do you really want to eat something from those toxic waters?) but Bourdain raises a very interesting point, that all too often the very rich are not eating any better than we mortals do, in fact they often eat worse but don’t know any better. At the very least they pay a heck of a lot more for the exact same thing we eat.

I won’t quote directly from Bourdain because I respect him but he hits this theme a couple of times. In the chapter meat he talks about the ubiquitous hamburger and the problems that it has gone through. What is a stable of cook out and greasy spoons became yuppified with such brand names as the Kobe-burger, probably made from meat that never went near Japan which would be an absolute waste of real Kobe beef, and now after many chefs have had their way the new concept brought out by the Minetta Tavern- the classic burger of just grilled beef on a bun with lettuce and a slice of tomato, for only $26. He says it is a very good burger (Just add lots of swear words for how good and you’ll know how Bourdain feels about it) but what burger is truly worth $26? It isn’t but the rich will pay for it.

Pushing the mark a little more in his chapter “The Rich eat differently than you and me” he writes about a place in the Caribbean where the rich and shameless get together to make catty comments, be seen and tell each other they are wonderful and the surgery makes them look days younger. Bourdain goes into detail about the crowd and no I didn’t steal any of his descriptions but I couldn’t help but think of SR fat cats .The top dog club got away with serving a poor quality lentil soup for $38. A peasant dish that cost the chef pennies to make but they’re told it’s wonderful. It’s in the place of the moment and they’re told it’s authentic and they don’t question. And like the emperor’s new clothes no one dares to think about questioning it. A fool and his money is soon parted. Probably with a nice tip added on.

So this raises the question in SR do the wealthy really eat better or is that a sign of people who really know what they’re doing as opposed to the posers and climbers and can runners actually have fun finding authentic food as a part of the role playing? Digging oysters in Puget sound yup saw those boats come in? A road side BBQ place in Tennessee-all the riggers stop here, A greasy spoon in Manhattan, I sear this Ed is better than the luxury burger I had in MSG last night and so on. Personally I’ve had gastronomic delights in one of Boston’s finest places and eaten well at a road side clam place in Plymouth and actually remember having more fun in Plymouth, even if they did have John Alden Burgers and Pilgrim fries on the menu.
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- Snow_Fox   The rich eat differnetly from you and me   Jul 22 2010, 12:49 AM
- - Daylen   I expect like now there is a mixed lot. Some who w...   Jul 22 2010, 01:00 AM
- - tagz   Sounds about right from what I've seen. My wo...   Jul 22 2010, 01:05 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (tagz @ Jul 22 2010, 03:05 AM) I th...   Jul 22 2010, 07:04 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (tagz @ Jul 22 2010, 02:05 AM) Soun...   Jul 22 2010, 09:43 PM
- - Traul   Don't forget cyber. The rich who actually enjo...   Jul 22 2010, 01:06 AM
- - Snow_Fox   there's no reason to think the guys Boudain is...   Jul 22 2010, 01:12 AM
|- - Traul   I think you are trying to mix two very loosely rel...   Jul 22 2010, 01:39 AM
- - Snow_Fox   I mean you ever buy a $5 cup of coffee at Sta...   Jul 22 2010, 01:14 AM
- - Voran   I think its kinda a sliding scale. There's th...   Jul 22 2010, 01:26 AM
|- - Fauxknight   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 21 2010, 09:26 PM) I t...   Jul 22 2010, 01:21 PM
- - DuckEggBlue Omega   In SR it's not a matter of the rich getting th...   Jul 22 2010, 02:36 AM
- - CanRay   I joked about the difference in cost of artificial...   Jul 22 2010, 03:19 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Since when does respecting someone mean you don...   Jul 22 2010, 04:29 AM
|- - Daddy's Little Ninja   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 21 2010, 11:29 PM...   Jul 22 2010, 01:17 PM
- - MikeKozar   This actually came up with my last character creat...   Jul 22 2010, 04:54 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   Heston: Listen to me chummer, you gotta tell em. S...   Jul 22 2010, 07:51 AM
- - LivingOxymoron   You know... you bring up an interesting point, tho...   Jul 22 2010, 08:40 AM
|- - DuckEggBlue Omega   QUOTE (LivingOxymoron @ Jul 22 2010, 07:1...   Jul 22 2010, 03:38 PM
|- - Fauxknight   QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Jul 22 2010, 11...   Jul 22 2010, 05:35 PM
- - hobgoblin   reminds me of this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/w...   Jul 22 2010, 08:58 AM
- - Daddy's Little Ninja   A couple of years ago, Snow Fox hosted a small New...   Jul 22 2010, 01:16 PM
- - nezumi   I actually just ate dessert at Brennan's last ...   Jul 22 2010, 01:35 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You mean that lots of cuisine *used* to be poor fo...   Jul 22 2010, 01:37 PM
- - Doc Chase   I seem to recall SR4 fluff saying soy and krill we...   Jul 22 2010, 03:49 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 22 2010, 04:49 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 04:23 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Jul 22 2010, 04:2...   Jul 22 2010, 05:36 PM
- - Bira   The whole soy thing is a bit silly, especially if ...   Jul 22 2010, 04:16 PM
|- - LivingOxymoron   QUOTE (Bira @ Jul 22 2010, 09:16 AM) The ...   Jul 22 2010, 07:18 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (LivingOxymoron @ Jul 22 2010, 09:1...   Jul 23 2010, 12:41 AM
- - CanRay   Which is when you get really cheap, and serve up t...   Jul 22 2010, 04:18 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM) ...   Jul 22 2010, 04:41 PM
- - CanRay   Inside a climate controlled building, so they don...   Jul 22 2010, 04:48 PM
- - stevebugge   Needless to say any of the employees at one of the...   Jul 22 2010, 04:51 PM
- - Daddy's Little Ninja   That is how SF's mind works. She regualrly has...   Jul 22 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Jul 22 2010...   Jul 22 2010, 05:42 PM
- - Daddy's Little Ninja   Yes and please do not get her started.   Jul 22 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Voran   In some cases though, I realize I can tell the dif...   Jul 22 2010, 05:57 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 22 2010, 12:57 PM) Bee...   Jul 22 2010, 06:12 PM
||- - Voran   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 22 2010, 02:12 PM) Ne...   Jul 22 2010, 09:19 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 22 2010, 09:19 PM) Sur...   Jul 22 2010, 09:21 PM
|- - LivingOxymoron   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 22 2010, 10:57 AM) In ...   Jul 22 2010, 07:22 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 22 2010, 09:57 AM) In ...   Jul 22 2010, 11:02 PM
|- - Voran   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jul 22 2010, 06:02 PM) T...   Jul 23 2010, 05:30 AM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 22 2010, 10:30 PM) My ...   Jul 23 2010, 03:33 PM
- - Draco18s   This thread reminded me of this Tomorrow.   Jul 22 2010, 05:57 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   The difference between a 3 dollar steak and a 12 d...   Jul 22 2010, 06:39 PM
- - Doc Chase   Filet mignon is the diamond of beef - Grossly over...   Jul 22 2010, 07:01 PM
|- - LivingOxymoron   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 22 2010, 12:01 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 07:32 PM
|- - Bira   QUOTE (LivingOxymoron @ Jul 22 2010, 04:3...   Jul 23 2010, 01:13 AM
- - Doc Chase   Tsh, I will. Do you know how tender those burgers...   Jul 22 2010, 07:36 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   I actually heard this from a friend's bother w...   Jul 22 2010, 08:14 PM
|- - LivingOxymoron   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:14 ...   Jul 22 2010, 09:25 PM
- - KarmaInferno   The ultra mega wealthy don't eat beef. They h...   Jul 22 2010, 08:21 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 22 2010, 03:21 ...   Jul 22 2010, 08:51 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 22 2010, 08:51 PM) ...   Jul 22 2010, 08:58 PM
- - Doc Chase   I realize that most non-meat stuff is gonna be pre...   Jul 22 2010, 08:23 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   QUOTE The ultra mega wealthy don't eat beef. T...   Jul 22 2010, 09:12 PM
- - Doc Chase   Mushisushi.   Jul 22 2010, 09:18 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   QUOTE The chain was originally a butchers cut (the...   Jul 22 2010, 09:30 PM
|- - LivingOxymoron   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 22 2010, 02:30 ...   Jul 22 2010, 09:41 PM
|- - Snow_Fox   QUOTE (LivingOxymoron @ Jul 22 2010, 04:4...   Jul 23 2010, 02:05 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jul 22 2010, 07:05 PM) ...   Jul 23 2010, 02:30 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jul 23 2010, 04:05 AM) ...   Jul 23 2010, 04:54 AM
- - CanRay   In my campaign that failed, the major Mr. Johnson ...   Jul 22 2010, 09:38 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   Coffee is tricky because of freshness issues at ev...   Jul 22 2010, 10:30 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 22 2010, 03:30 ...   Jul 22 2010, 10:35 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 22 2010, 02:30 ...   Jul 22 2010, 11:12 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jul 22 2010, 04:12 PM) @...   Jul 22 2010, 11:18 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (stevebugge @ Jul 22 2010, 03:18 PM...   Jul 23 2010, 01:14 AM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jul 22 2010, 06:14 PM) O...   Jul 23 2010, 03:26 PM
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- - Daylen   Best coffee I've ever had is at Pilot. The wor...   Jul 22 2010, 10:43 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Psh. There's tons of coffee worse than Starbuc...   Jul 22 2010, 10:45 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 22 2010, 11:45 PM...   Jul 22 2010, 10:49 PM
- - CanRay   Three words: Jamacian Blue Mountain.   Jul 22 2010, 10:45 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 22 2010, 10:45 PM) Th...   Jul 22 2010, 10:48 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Besides, *now* the trendy thing is pre-digested, p...   Jul 22 2010, 10:49 PM
- - Dumori   stale 3 day old re heated crap?   Jul 22 2010, 10:50 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Dumori @ Jul 22 2010, 10:50 PM) st...   Jul 22 2010, 10:52 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Dumori @ Jul 22 2010, 10:50 PM) st...   Jul 22 2010, 10:53 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   Honestly star bucks probably tastes weak because t...   Jul 22 2010, 10:58 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's the stuff, Doc. Good times. Indeed, B...   Jul 22 2010, 11:01 PM
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- - stevebugge   Random Coffee fact, it's not a bean at all, it...   Jul 22 2010, 11:03 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (stevebugge @ Jul 22 2010, 11:03 PM...   Jul 22 2010, 11:05 PM
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- - CanRay   And I thought a Ganger eating a bunch of Blueberry...   Jul 22 2010, 11:49 PM
- - Dumori   I love how this derailed. From soy to enchanted sp...   Jul 23 2010, 12:15 AM
- - CanRay   You know, some folks just might go after edible Ma...   Jul 23 2010, 12:17 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 23 2010, 01:17 AM) Yo...   Jul 23 2010, 12:20 AM
- - Doc Chase   It's telling when they have to wrap it in baco...   Jul 23 2010, 02:31 AM
- - Doc Chase   DOUBLE POST NOOOOOOOOOO   Jul 23 2010, 02:31 AM
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- - BlueMax   When it comes to flavor, I prefer Ox tail. You jus...   Jul 23 2010, 04:04 AM
- - Manunancy   There's probably several factors in lay there....   Jul 23 2010, 05:53 AM
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- - CanRay   I think US Laws prevent that. Seeing as you'r...   Jul 23 2010, 03:39 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 23 2010, 08:39 AM) I ...   Jul 23 2010, 04:03 PM
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