Arsenal Cover, crappy or craptastic? |
Arsenal Cover, crappy or craptastic? |
Jan 31 2008, 02:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
I'm a hold-out from the days of SR1 & 2...
I liked the SR1 cover the best out of all the covers for the various SR books I have. Honestly, I would have made the Arsenal cover be more like buying stuff & gear out of the back of a large semi truck in a lot with other gear & vehicles in the background... sort of like a black market swap meet. :D But yeah, the existing cover art is off somehow. Not quite right and all that. |
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Jan 31 2008, 03:20 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That's (well SR1 and SR2 were almost identical) my favorite as well. |
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Jan 31 2008, 03:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 21-September 07 From: Houston Member No.: 13,369 |
wow
some harsh things are being said I'm not saying people don't have a right to their opinions, just keep in mind that's what they are. The problem Ive had with alot of Shadowrun art over the years is the ugly people. Now let me qualify that statement. Most everyone (with a few rare exceptions) are all knotted and warty. I can see that for troll and some orks, but when a large percentage of the humans have it, it makes me go "what?" In a world where Nuyen flows like water (atleast for runners in the biz) and plastic surgery is mostly a walk in kinda thing, why would the majority of the people be that way? I liked the first and second editon core book covers. The 4th edition was a nod to that IMHO. I have to admit some of the clothing choices seemed a lil wrong and that dwarf just kinda creeps me out, but beside that, it's fine. I don't get whats so wrong with the ork chick. Ever seen a female mechanic? Now make her an orc on top of that. I don't see the big deal. Also keep in mind that well isn't there a drug section in arsenal? She could be all "neo-roided up" or whatever. if we are talking out of proportion or whatever lets talk the cover of "Awakenings" I loved that woman, super-hot, until a friend pointed out her mouth was on the side of her face. |
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Jan 31 2008, 05:50 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...the artist was just paying homage to Pablo Picasso... :grinbig: Seriously I agree that the Fixer illo would have been a very appropriate cover. You don't have to show everything that is inside the book on the cover. If that were the case there should be a BTL junkie zoned out in a corner somewhere and a martial artist going Bruce Lee on someone in the background. One of my favourite covers was Rigger 2 which featured only Josie Cruze and her flock of drones. |
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Jan 31 2008, 06:19 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 29-July 06 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 8,981 |
I thought the cover was better than augmentation.
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Jan 31 2008, 06:25 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yeah, but that's not really difficult. :D
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Jan 31 2008, 07:08 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...kind of like saying the New York Jets are better than the Miami Dolphins. :grinbig:
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Jan 31 2008, 07:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 29-July 06 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 8,981 |
Totally False Statement! Dolphins are gonna have an undefeated season next year. I can feel it in my gut! But in all fairness that could be indigestion. :dead: |
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Feb 1 2008, 12:07 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Them's fightin' words! |
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Feb 1 2008, 12:18 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Hey -- I'd just like to point out that this cover, as well as the Augmentation cover, were both contracted and received by/delivered to FanPro in 2006.
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Feb 1 2008, 10:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 2-August 06 Member No.: 9,006 |
So, um, Adam..can we take that as you saying that the covers and art are going to be different with stuff made completely in-house by Catalyst when compared to the Legacy Products(like Augmentation, Arsenal, and Unwired)? |
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Feb 1 2008, 10:24 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
Please... no more comic covers. |
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Feb 1 2008, 10:31 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
Looks like they even already have a cover for a product I'm not even sure is still in the schedule...
Running Wild's cover is copyrighted 2004 but it looks great. |
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Feb 1 2008, 10:34 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yep, that's cool.
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Feb 1 2008, 10:37 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Running Wild is still on the schedule, although it will not be quite the same book as was proposed back in SR3 days.
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Feb 1 2008, 10:40 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
At least it will see the light of the day - unlike that other book....
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Feb 1 2008, 10:45 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
We don't have "in-house" artists, but aside from the Running Wild cover, all of the Shadowrun art is now stuff that is being handled by Catalyst, not stuff that FanPro had contracted previously. This includes Unwired, which Klaus Scherwinski is working on. |
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Feb 1 2008, 10:55 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
:love: |
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Feb 1 2008, 12:17 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
:notworthy: My gratitude to whoever contracted him. |
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Feb 1 2008, 12:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 18-April 06 Member No.: 8,481 |
Well, my question's been answered to my satisfaction: it is crappy, not craptastic. The cartoony style is certainly intentional and in keeping with SR tradition, but the flaws in technical execution show that it's really not a good exemplar of that style.
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Feb 1 2008, 01:45 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
From the looks of the running wild cover above, would assume we'll be seeing more bioforms/warforms. :P
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Feb 1 2008, 01:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 30-November 04 Member No.: 6,858 |
It's OK, it could've done with a bit more work on the perspective certainly, the tranny orc I can deal with. There have been SR books with a lot worse covers than this, FASA published some howlers back in the 1e/2e days, Tir Tairngire springs to mind. |
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Feb 1 2008, 02:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 |
That would make an excellent cover for just about any SR book. |
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Feb 1 2008, 03:13 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Fuckin' WOOT. |
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Feb 1 2008, 04:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
There is an illustration in arsenal with three runners waiting on ambush around a corner. I thought that an enhanced version of that could have made for a better cover than the one in the BBB. I really hated the bbb cover.
On comparison arsenal's is bad, but at least it's funny. My vote is not for "craptastic", anyway. Cheers, Max |
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