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darthmord
post Jan 31 2008, 02:41 PM
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I'm a hold-out from the days of SR1 & 2...

I liked the SR1 cover the best out of all the covers for the various SR books I have.

Honestly, I would have made the Arsenal cover be more like buying stuff & gear out of the back of a large semi truck in a lot with other gear & vehicles in the background... sort of like a black market swap meet. :D

But yeah, the existing cover art is off somehow. Not quite right and all that.
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post Jan 31 2008, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (darthmord)
I liked the SR1 cover the best out of all the covers for the various SR books I have.

That's (well SR1 and SR2 were almost identical) my favorite as well.
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post Jan 31 2008, 03:30 PM
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wow
some harsh things are being said
I'm not saying people don't have a right to their opinions, just keep in mind that's what they are. The problem Ive had with alot of Shadowrun art over the years is the ugly people. Now let me qualify that statement. Most everyone (with a few rare exceptions) are all knotted and warty. I can see that for troll and some orks, but when a large percentage of the humans have it, it makes me go "what?" In a world where Nuyen flows like water (atleast for runners in the biz) and plastic surgery is mostly a walk in kinda thing, why would the majority of the people be that way? I liked the first and second editon core book covers. The 4th edition was a nod to that IMHO. I have to admit some of the clothing choices seemed a lil wrong and that dwarf just kinda creeps me out, but beside that, it's fine.

I don't get whats so wrong with the ork chick. Ever seen a female mechanic? Now make her an orc on top of that. I don't see the big deal. Also keep in mind that well isn't there a drug section in arsenal?
She could be all "neo-roided up" or whatever.

if we are talking out of proportion or whatever lets talk the cover of "Awakenings" I loved that woman, super-hot, until a friend pointed out her mouth was on the side of her face.
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post Jan 31 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (swirler)
if we are talking out of proportion or whatever lets talk the cover of "Awakenings" I loved that woman, super-hot, until a friend pointed out her mouth was on the side of her face.

...the artist was just paying homage to Pablo Picasso... :grinbig:

Seriously I agree that the Fixer illo would have been a very appropriate cover. You don't have to show everything that is inside the book on the cover. If that were the case there should be a BTL junkie zoned out in a corner somewhere and a martial artist going Bruce Lee on someone in the background.

One of my favourite covers was Rigger 2 which featured only Josie Cruze and her flock of drones.
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post Jan 31 2008, 06:19 PM
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I thought the cover was better than augmentation.
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post Jan 31 2008, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, but that's not really difficult. :D
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post Jan 31 2008, 07:08 PM
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...kind of like saying the New York Jets are better than the Miami Dolphins. :grinbig:
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post Jan 31 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...kind of like saying the New York Jets are better than the Miami Dolphins. :grinbig:

Totally False Statement!

Dolphins are gonna have an undefeated season next year. I can feel it in my gut!


But in all fairness that could be indigestion. :dead:
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post Feb 1 2008, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...kind of like saying the New York Jets are better than the Miami Dolphins.

Them's fightin' words!
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post Feb 1 2008, 12:18 AM
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Hey -- I'd just like to point out that this cover, as well as the Augmentation cover, were both contracted and received by/delivered to FanPro in 2006.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 31 2008, 07:18 PM)
Hey -- I'd just like to point out that this cover, as well as the Augmentation cover, were both contracted and received by/delivered to FanPro in 2006.

So, um, Adam..can we take that as you saying that the covers and art are going to be different with stuff made completely in-house by Catalyst when compared to the Legacy Products(like Augmentation, Arsenal, and Unwired)?
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Cardul)
So, um, Adam..can we take that as you saying that the covers and art are going to be different with stuff made completely in-house by Catalyst when compared to the Legacy Products(like Augmentation, Arsenal, and Unwired)?

Please... no more comic covers.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:31 AM
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Looks like they even already have a cover for a product I'm not even sure is still in the schedule...
Running Wild's cover is copyrighted 2004 but it looks great.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:34 AM
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Yep, that's cool.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:37 AM
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Running Wild is still on the schedule, although it will not be quite the same book as was proposed back in SR3 days.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:40 AM
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At least it will see the light of the day - unlike that other book....
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Cardul)
So, um, Adam..can we take that as you saying that the covers and art are going to be different with stuff made completely in-house by Catalyst when compared to the Legacy Products(like Augmentation, Arsenal, and Unwired)?

We don't have "in-house" artists, but aside from the Running Wild cover, all of the Shadowrun art is now stuff that is being handled by Catalyst, not stuff that FanPro had contracted previously. This includes Unwired, which Klaus Scherwinski is working on.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Feb 1 2008, 12:45 PM)
This includes Unwired, which Klaus Scherwinski is working on.

:love:

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post Feb 1 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Adam)
QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 1 2008, 05:06 AM)
So, um, Adam..can we take that as you saying that the covers and art are going to be different with stuff made completely in-house by Catalyst when compared to the Legacy Products(like Augmentation, Arsenal, and Unwired)?

We don't have "in-house" artists, but aside from the Running Wild cover, all of the Shadowrun art is now stuff that is being handled by Catalyst, not stuff that FanPro had contracted previously. This includes Unwired, which Klaus Scherwinski is working on.

:notworthy: My gratitude to whoever contracted him.
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post Feb 1 2008, 12:50 PM
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Well, my question's been answered to my satisfaction: it is crappy, not craptastic. The cartoony style is certainly intentional and in keeping with SR tradition, but the flaws in technical execution show that it's really not a good exemplar of that style.
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post Feb 1 2008, 01:45 PM
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From the looks of the running wild cover above, would assume we'll be seeing more bioforms/warforms. :P
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post Feb 1 2008, 01:58 PM
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it is crappy, not craptastic.


It's OK, it could've done with a bit more work on the perspective certainly, the tranny orc I can deal with. There have been SR books with a lot worse covers than this, FASA published some howlers back in the 1e/2e days, Tir Tairngire springs to mind.
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post Feb 1 2008, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
You don't have to show everything that is inside the book on the cover. If that were the case there should be a BTL junkie zoned out in a corner somewhere and a martial artist going Bruce Lee on someone in the background.

That would make an excellent cover for just about any SR book.
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post Feb 1 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (Adam)
This includes Unwired, which Klaus Scherwinski is working on.


Fuckin' WOOT.
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post Feb 1 2008, 04:21 PM
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There is an illustration in arsenal with three runners waiting on ambush around a corner. I thought that an enhanced version of that could have made for a better cover than the one in the BBB. I really hated the bbb cover.

On comparison arsenal's is bad, but at least it's funny. My vote is not for "craptastic", anyway.

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