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post Feb 2 2006, 07:38 AM
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:02 AM
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He's also a forum member, and due a little respect. You don't have to like he work, but you do have to be polite regarding him. This is your guys' last warning on the subject.

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post Feb 2 2006, 08:43 AM
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post Feb 2 2006, 09:59 AM
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The way I see it he would propably like nothing more than to have SR advance to ED level magic right away. Fortunatly he doesn't have that much power over the game's development.

It's a matter of taste and personal preferences. I'm sure a lot of people would like a stronger magical aspet in SR.

Back on topic: i never understand why some of the authors didn't know much about the SR universe and it's ruleset. The novels would be much better if they did so and wouln't contain cruel mistkaes like "he activates his boosted reflexes and jumps 2 meters straight up.".
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post Feb 2 2006, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Feb 2 2006, 03:02 AM)
He's also a forum member, and due a little respect.  You don't have to like he work, but you do have to be polite regarding him.  This is your guys' last warning on the subject.

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He is? In that case: Hey Kenson. Good work with Burning Time! I think the concept of the traditional "shadowrun" is insufficient as a base of a novel. What you did was to put in some storyline personal to the characters, which is done far to little in this kind of novel. Just because a book is about firefighters doesn't mean all they have to do in the novel is fighting fires. Same with books about shadowrunners.

What I liked about Findley's work was that it felt like he was writing a real thriller set in Shadowrun, rather than writing a novelized version of a game session. I don't know if others agree with me here, but I'd love it if future novels could be written with no regard what so ever to the kind of plots normaly used in the game (though it may turn out similar anyway). What is fun to play and what makes good fiction are two different things. I'm sure this isn't new to you, mr Kenson—if you read this. Just view this as a vote for character driven storyline and unexpected view points, before the traditional imitation of a game session we normaly see in SR novels. The kind of plot we also see, I'm sure quiet intentionally, in Born to Run; which is the reason I don't like it that much.

PS. I agree with you Grinder. It's a matter of personal preference. And I'd like to add that I'm glad nobody has power to singlehandedly change the game either way, so it's not a personal blow at all.
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post Feb 2 2006, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (SL James)
In 2053, Lindstrom was a mayor, and Seattle is a city. It's also the name of the city-state metroplex.

I think that it being based in 2053 was a mistake. It's supposed to be 2063, that's what it says on the back of the second book, and only a couple months have passed. Besides GL wasn't leader of the Ancients in 2053. Of course, I'd have to check Elven Fire to be sure.
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post Feb 2 2006, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Grinder @ Feb 2 2006, 04:59 AM)
QUOTE (mintcar @ Feb 2 2006, 08:27 AM)
The way I see it he would propably like nothing more than to have SR advance to ED level magic right away. Fortunatly he doesn't have that much power over the game's development.

It's a matter of taste and personal preferences. I'm sure a lot of people would like a stronger magical aspet in SR.

Back on topic: i never understand why some of the authors didn't know much about the SR universe and it's ruleset. The novels would be much better if they did so and wouln't contain cruel mistkaes like "he activates his boosted reflexes and jumps 2 meters straight up.".

Heh. The latter one's possible under SR4 rules. You just need to score 8 hits on the jump test to do it.
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post Feb 2 2006, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jan 31 2006, 12:55 AM)
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According to this info, your book wil be published May 2006.
Sorry, Jason :( .

Thanks for the sentiment, but I've known for a while that May 2006 was the planned publication date. I submitted it last August, but after that it had to go through the Roc editors, get typeset, get a cover, etc. etc., meaning it takes a while to actually come out in print. That's just the way book publishing works.

You can also find it HERE with an ISBN number. Congrats to Mr. Hardy btw.
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post Feb 2 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (BookWyrm)
You can also find it HERE with an ISBN number. Congrats to Mr. Hardy btw.

Thanks, BookWyrm. I've been trying to get into writing SR novels for five years, and nearly had it in my grasp twice before various forces intervened. I'm really excited to have this one out, and am quite anxious for the Dumpshock crowd to hate it. ;)

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post Feb 2 2006, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy)
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You can also find it HERE with an ISBN number. Congrats to Mr. Hardy btw.

Thanks, BookWyrm. I've been trying to get into writing SR novels for five years, and nearly had it in my grasp twice before various forces intervened. I'm really excited to have this one out, and am quite anxious for the Dumpshock crowd to hate it. ;)

Jason H.

atleast he knows what to expect on average heh

i cant say i have an opinion on any novels, i dont have the money.
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post Feb 3 2006, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Grinder @ Feb 2 2006, 04:59 AM)
  like "he activates his boosted reflexes and jumps 2 meters straight up.".

Heh. The latter one's possible under SR4 rules. You just need to score 8 hits on the jump test to do it.

But everybody is able to do so, the boosted reflexes are not needed to do it.
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post Feb 3 2006, 03:35 AM
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Is Drops of Corruption a continuation of the new trilogy? Or is it new?
I can't seem to find the plot or even a blurb online :(

So here's my guess - it's a thrilling adventure of a human Street Samurai and his bout of Pink Eye

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post Feb 3 2006, 03:40 AM
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Figures, one minute after posting I find the blurb on the back of it online. Grr!
Let's see, a Scottish (if it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!) burned out mage is taken in by a crime boss,helped out,then forced to fight in a mob war.

COOL!
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:21 AM
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cool, a burnout! Sounds like a good start! Already fighting the Kenson Formula for Shadowrun too!

Suddenly I have this image of Steve Kenson as a hermetic mage writing up an ally formula , which, of course, involves the sorcery power and includes very passionate feelings as part of the personality. THe Kenson method. Right on, I'm using that one next time I make an ally.

I hope Steve gets to put more in to the next novels. The first seemed .... well... cookie cutter-ish, and I know he can do better. Kind of had a reined-in, shetlin pony-kiddie-fair -ride feel, except for a few choice bits. Hopefully they'll give him more rein.

Anyone read Poison Memories yet? Hasn't hit the shelves where I live yet.

Hardy: Looking forward to picking up your yarn. :D
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
Suddenly I have this image of Steve Kenson as a hermetic mage writing up an ally formula , which, of course, involves the sorcery power and includes very passionate feelings as part of the personality. THe Kenson method. Right on, I'm using that one next time I make an ally.

AFAIK, he's not the mage in the family.
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:59 AM
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mundanes can write formula
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:30 AM
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*whoooosh*

*points fist to SK's homepage*
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:42 AM
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I've known SK for quite a while now, originally through an SR-themed amateur press magazine called Scrawls From The Sprawls. A lot of his later SR work saw print in this mag, and I have yet to be trully disappointed in his work, both gaming & fiction. His help clearing up some points from MitS made for sopme good gaming a while back.

Stephen, if you see this, keep up the good work my friend. :smokin:

BTW, Fistandatilus3.0, I just got the book. I need a few days to fully devour it.
Now, where did I put that honey-mustard? ah, there it is.........
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post Feb 3 2006, 07:27 AM
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'preciate it James, but for some reason, my work comp blocked it. Go figure. Thanks anyways.

BookWyrm, the honey-mustard's in the pantry, right next to the swordfish mustard ball. Hope it goes down well.
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post Feb 3 2006, 08:04 AM
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Swordfish mustard ball was in the SR5 april's fool joke, right? I forgot the context already.
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post Feb 3 2006, 08:11 AM
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hehe, yes
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post Feb 3 2006, 08:37 AM
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Hehe. I remember now. It was like a FAQ, and one of the answers to a question was simply "swordfish mustard ball". Man, that's funny in retrospect. On one hand, we had it coming. On the other, that's exactly what they were telling us in the real FAQ :P .
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post Feb 3 2006, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (Dale)
Is Drops of Corruption a continuation of the new trilogy? Or is it new?
I can't seem to find the plot or even a blurb online :(

So here's my guess - it's a thrilling adventure of a human Street Samurai and his bout of Pink Eye

:spin:

Mmmmm--pink eye . . . nothing says corruption like pink eye . . . now I'm sorry I didn't use it.

Drops of Corruption isn't a continuation of the trilogy--one or two characters from the trilogy appear in the book, but the major characters are different. I summarized the plot at GenCon as follows: "It's about an immortal elf who's a vampire by night and sells elven pornography by day." Unfortunately, someone in the crowd told me that plot had already been used.

I don't like to give away much beforehand (though, since the book cover is on Amazon, I hope the plot summary is soon to follow), but the book's about a former combat mage named Bannickburn who has lost power and really wants it back, and how he runs into some Seattle folk who are really good at manipulating people who want power.

Jason H.
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:35 PM
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BookWyrm, the honey-mustard's in the pantry, right next to the swordfish mustard ball. Hope it goes down well.

Thanks, found it. :wobble:
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post Feb 3 2006, 08:28 PM
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Actually, Swordfish Mustardball did not come from FanPro in any way; it was the answer to one of the question's in Bull's totally unofficial jokey "FAQs".
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