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[emo samurai]

The point is to make them feel horrified and trivialized as far as their superficial anxieties are concerned. That would work on mostly everybody.

And he'd only do this if the person were starting to do things like blaming everybody for their problems or focusing on superficial things while ignoring any suggestions he makes.

[James McMurray]

Smashing yourself in the head, or getting smashed in the head, is a surefire way to ensure that the guy across from you is forever insane, but very little else.

[emo samurai]

If seeing a person smash themselves over the head with a block of ice is enough to drive someone over the edge, then he/she's already beyond the superficial stage; this is only used to break the wall of bullshit, not to strike behind it.

It'll be an ultra-violent version of a person dunking his head in cold water!

[James McMurray]

I meant that it would convince you that the guy who just smashed himself in the head is crazy. I cannot imagine a single situation where I would see someone shatter something over their head and splatter blood everywhere where my response would be "he makes a good point."

[emo samurai]

The point of the exercise is to convey frustration; the reason for smashing the phantom ice block is to make him think "I'm being dumb and wasting both his and my time," not "Intriguing statement, Mr. Langston. May I have a cup of tea?"

[Geekkake]

[James McMurray]

Well, obviously I won't convince you that it's an incredibly stuoid way to try and counsel someone, so I'll just close with a challenge: can you to find a single instance of a successful use of the "brutalize myself to help counsel him" maneuver?

[emo samurai]

The point of doing that is to get a visceral response, a momentary gasp that makes them stop crying over stupid shit and tell the truth.

To cite an example where this has actually worked in my life: I was at a friend's wedding dinner and there was a lady sitting at my table crying over something. She continued to cry and whisper angry/sad things to a man I presumed was her husband until the unexpected happened: I choked on a chicken bone. Predictably, this worked, even though it came out of the blue. Ironically, the whole dinner was more pleasant after my brush with death because any greivances just seemed... trivial. So this "smash block of ice over your head" technique works, or at least I assume it would work long enough to break the wall of bullshit.

[James McMurray]

Choking on a chicken bone is vastly different from bloodying yourself with violence. Sure, it'll probably snap them out their whining, but it will leave you with practically no chance of continuing a therapeutic relationship.

[emo samurai]

What'll happen is he'll wordlessly smash himself with a block of ice, and then, as calmly as possible, he'll say "Continue."

[Geekkake]

[James McMurray]

[emo samurai]

I will MAKE it work, goddammit.

[Geekkake]

[emo samurai]

You have a very boring and limited view of the sane world.

And to rephrase the eternal question, why do you respond to posts you have to go out of your way to read only to be a dick about it?

[Geekkake]

[emo samurai]

You are such a tightass. Did this thread kill your dog or something? Jesus christ.

[James McMurray]

emo, Geekkake's posts are based on the fact that ignorance annoys people, insistent ignorance pisses them off, and ignorance compounded with megalomaniacal ravings about what will be MADE TO WORK just drives the nail into the coffin.

It was an interesting idea that would never work in a world trying to get some semblance of reality, deal with it and move on. :)

[emo samurai]

I know. It's just that, it makes sense if I'm emotional about this, since it's my character. For him to do the same is... frightening. And if you knew me, the megalomania wouldn't bother you at all. Hell, if you have any way of cross-referencing the way I normally behave, the megalomania shouldn't bother you, period.

[James McMurray]

Megalomania is at best cute (when done by chihuahuas) and at worst disturbing (when done by national / religious leaders). You're not at either end of that spectrum.

Yeah, people get emotional about their characters. Other people get emotional about ignorance. To you, your character is something great you dreamed up that gives you pleasure daydreaming about. To others it's something moronic that was dreamed up by an imbecile. that's the way opinions work.

On the flip side of that coin, to you your emotional attachment to the idea of "shock therapy" makes sense and your megalomaniacal outbursts are nothing to be bothered about. To others insistent ignorance (I really need to grab a thesaurus entry for that word) coupled with an ending point of an argument that sounds like a whiny child screaming defiance is a sign of the intellectual and social downfall of society.

It makes as much sense or more for someone to get emotional about the downfall of the intellect as there is for someone to get emotional about a fictional character's eccentric style of therapy.

[emo samurai]

No, it doesn't. The downfall of the intellect is a huge problem; a fictional character's eccentric style of therapy is, depending on who is involved, variously very emotionally charged in an understandable way or not. And what the other person's reaction would be isn't an intellectual question; it's a matter of individual interpretation. Not everyone will react the same way, and your conception of the mentality of a whiny dumbass complaining about her friend's hair or his buddy's girlfriend is very different from mine simply because we aren't those people. Or I hope we aren't. If so, then I have a slab of ice to break. Over your head.

Plus, I'm just being silly. SR is my silly-space. Don't you see? *Rips rivers of blood down cheeks in emo-anguish* :D

[Dranem]

[Kremlin KOA]

yeah, it's as inrealistic(sp) as a modern setting with Elves, and Elf Bikie gangs. That is the most batshit crazy idea I have ever heard

After all what ever happened to Elves being all back to nature, or CG

or hell what ever happpened to their allergy to iron products.

Or about a game where you play professonal criminal teams that ADVERTIZE THEIR SKILLS TO THE LAW ABIDING PUBLIC!!! Ehere it is COMMON for normal folks to hire sociopaths to find their precious daughter for them.

Or about a Game Where you can play a 8-10 ft tall, dense, super strong creature that can barely carry a modern army kit on a full march

Or a Game where Arnold Schwartzenneger CAN'T hold a US army ranger back for more than 5 minutes without DYING FROM THE STRAIN

Or a game where Canada willingy asked the US for membership.

Or a Game where Companies openly wave their power in pople's faces, andDON'T LOSE SALES


[sarcasm]Yeah Emo is soooooo much more batshit crazy than that[/sarcasm]

[Glyph]

Batshit crazy is one thing, but getting too attached to a character is another thing altogether. We've all seen how it goes with players who do that - it's even worse when it's a pet NPC. Shadowrun isn't a novel - it's a game, where you interact with other players, and other characters. If things work out the way that the GM determines ahead of time, with logic and the illusion of realism be damned, then the GM isn't running a game anymore. He's reading the players a story.

Storytelling isn't always bad - every game has flavor text. But when it's "Look at what this character is doing! Isn't he neat?", then you need to maybe take a bit of a step back from the character. Or use him in a fanfic:



The elf picked himself up dizzily from the ground. His experimental teleporting spell didn't work as he had planned. Now where was he?

Suddenly, a muscular youth, wearing a tiger-striped bandana, charged at him. "Ranma, prepare to die!"

The youth skidded to a stop. "Wait... you're not Ranma!"

The elf smiled. "You know, I think I can solve your, and everybody else's, problems. First, I'll hook up you and Ukyou. Then, I'll get Mousse and Shampoo together. Then, I'll get Ranma and Akane to stop fighting and admit their love to each other. Then Cologne-chan... will be mine!"

[Kremlin KOA]

Yeah well I am reserving judgement until I see enoug sessions of the Lab Rat Diaries to know how it all works in game