Can we beatt he Horrors?, It needed its own thread. Options

[Hagga]

Does anyone else get the feeling that the Powers-That-Be will continually throw up sacrificial figures to attempt to delay the horrors? Great and powerful warrior-mystics, laden with the technology of the sixth world.. and at the peak of their ability and power, get a surprise visit to the metaplanes where they die horribly giving the patrolling dragon spirit time to knock down another bridge. You know, because Harlequin is a lazy tool.

[ggodo]

That's what would happen if this were being run by a corp of some kind, or maybe one of the Tirs, but Harlequin would do it himself, cuz that guy's running mainly on survivor's guilt and booze.

Of course, he'd need to get out of the booze long enough to notice a problem. . .

[Hagga]

Last time, he nearly died and that was to some fairly poncy servants of the Enemy, thus the need for a GREAT AND POWERFUL.. sacrifice. And it took a Passion to wake him up last time. Or, what is heavily implied to be a Passion.

[ggodo]

I didn't say he'd be good at it, I just said he'd do it. Besides, he seems fairly sober as of DOTA3 I don't know what he's up to, but he's dressed and standing. There may be need for a sacrifice, and I guarantee it won't be Harlequin, but I doubt he'd be able to take much more blood on his hands, whether it's his fault or if he just thinks it is.

[Hagga]

He was happy to let Thayla die, thinking himself far too important for the task. But maybe. After all these years, probably looks on the hairless monkeys running around as little more than sacks of blood and bone.

[ggodo]

I've been operating under the impression that letting Thayla die has been the primary cause of his survivor's guilt. I don't doubt that he has little regard for metahumanity aside from the ideal that they need to defeat The Enemy. I just think that he's insane enough that he doesn't want to warn the world about them because that's no fun. He seems like he's trying really hard to remain an observer, but keeps having to get involved because "no one else is going to" But no one else is involved because he hasn't told anyone what's up. Of course, this causes a bit of a problem for his retirement dream. I don't know, I'm interpreting the trip through Harlie's head in Harlequin's Back and I just call it as I see it. I really don't think that he's sane enough to act in a predictable manner. That guy seems bipolar.

[Hagga]

I think he's sane, but he's entirely devoted to his philosophy of chaos. I think it was the first Harlequin in which he had written "One must know the chaos within to give birth to a dancing star" and I remember an immortal saying something like "Time just makes us more of what we are" - he's just become an extreme adherent which accounts for the bipolar. I think he probably already had a good share of guilt, if he can feel such a thing - from death of Atlantis.

Oh god, I sound like I have an english professor jammed straight up my arse working me like a puppet.

[nezumi]

I think the answer is Eclipse Phase (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[ggodo]

When is that not the answer?

[Sixgun_Sage]

When you are looking for an inelegant system.

[CanRay]

I GOT IT!

Soylent Black! An unlimited supply of food!!!

[Gerzel]

I think the answer is Eclipse Phase (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Except we didn't really beat the horrors, we escaped... at least for the time being.

[nezumi]

Which I think is the most accurate answer. You don't beatt them, but you CAN escape them.

[Sixgun_Sage]

If you deny them their food they lose, sometimes that is all that is required for victory.

[CanRay]

If you deny them their food they lose, sometimes that is all that is required for victory.

So, start searching for the Halo Rings?

[3278]

One of the principles of a lot of post-Shadowrun settings is that if we leave Earth, the Horrors won't bother us anymore. But Shadowrun's position on "is there mana places other than Earth" has vacillated greatly over the years; it's really quite possible that anywhere name-givers live for a long enough period is going to develop a manasphere, and pretty soon you're right back where you started. I think there's probably an interesting setting there.

[nezumi]

You are, of course, correct. However, it could be just as easily justified that that threshold of 'sufficient magic for horrors' can be met by a living planet (Earth provides the majority of the Earth's manasphere), but not by a tincan habitat.

[3278]

You are, of course, correct. However, it could be just as easily justified that that threshold of 'sufficient magic for horrors' can be met by a living planet (Earth provides the majority of the Earth's manasphere), but not by a tincan habitat.

Most definitely! Or - as I think most people assume - that Earth is somehow unique [which seems silly to me], and that the Horrors will only cross over here, for some obscure reason. I prefer to ignore Dragon cosmology - they could be lying, if nothing else - and like the idea that wherever there are living things of any sort in the universe, there is the cycle of magic, and there are Horrors. That means you could easily have a post-Shadowrun setting with cyberware, bioware, aliens, ghosts, Horrors, Dragons [and creatures of legend from all the alien planets], riggers, spellcasters, free spirits, the lot. To some degree, I think it'd get too complicated to be an easy game to pick up, but I like the idea of the universe in which it exists, anyway.

[Stahlseele]

*points at mars*
*points at photos of draconic bones on mars*

[Brazilian_Shinob...]

Weren't those photos hoax?

[Gerzel]

Lets not forget.

Yes we did escape in Eclipse Phase but...

We don't know WHY. The TITANs in EP have more than enough tech, resources and facilities to chase down every last scrap of humanity and catch us.

Their viruses are already seeded through humanity.

They have several known outposts on other worlds, Luna, Mars.


Rather than escape, it is more accurate to say that they let us go.

Which I would argue is exactly what happened in the fourth age too.

If they eat all of us then they have no more food left for the next harvest. We might not be the only world they take, and we may have only seen the horrors' farmers and not their true warriors.

[CanRay]

If they eat all of us then they have no more food left for the next harvest. We might not be the only world they take, and we may have only seen the horrors' farmers and not their true warriors.

Moo?

[3278]

Yes we did escape in Eclipse Phase but...

No, we didn't: we escaped in Equinox; Eclipse Phase is a different setting altogether. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Equinox isn't looking hopeful; they're 3 years behind schedule, and now a Twilight RPG has come along and used the name. Oh, RedBrick: good ideas, lax execution.

[ggodo]

I want Equinox so bad.

[Wounded Ronin]

Most definitely! Or - as I think most people assume - that Earth is somehow unique [which seems silly to me], and that the Horrors will only cross over here, for some obscure reason. I prefer to ignore Dragon cosmology - they could be lying, if nothing else - and like the idea that wherever there are living things of any sort in the universe, there is the cycle of magic, and there are Horrors. That means you could easily have a post-Shadowrun setting with cyberware, bioware, aliens, ghosts, Horrors, Dragons [and creatures of legend from all the alien planets], riggers, spellcasters, free spirits, the lot. To some degree, I think it'd get too complicated to be an easy game to pick up, but I like the idea of the universe in which it exists, anyway.

Alien vs. Predator vs. Horror?