Can we beatt he Horrors?, It needed its own thread. Options

[CanRay]

Alien vs. Predator vs. Horror?

vs. Freddy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Error]

My 2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Can we bait the Horrors?

Yes, yes we can.

Beat on the other hand....
I think I'll start digging a Kaer now, unless I Awaken tomorrow and can start initiating now in preparation.

Now I have to wonder if those in what will be Tir Tairngire will have a higher than normal percentage of Elven UGE and hope for some Immortal genes.

[nezumi]

Most definitely! Or - as I think most people assume - that Earth is somehow unique [which seems silly to me], and that the Horrors will only cross over here, for some obscure reason. I prefer to ignore Dragon cosmology - they could be lying, if nothing else - and like the idea that wherever there are living things of any sort in the universe, there is the cycle of magic, and there are Horrors. That means you could easily have a post-Shadowrun setting with cyberware, bioware, aliens, ghosts, Horrors, Dragons [and creatures of legend from all the alien planets], riggers, spellcasters, free spirits, the lot. To some degree, I think it'd get too complicated to be an easy game to pick up, but I like the idea of the universe in which it exists, anyway.

In one of my EP games, they found magic on Mars ... but it's a completely alien form of magic, with some VERY hostile spirits. Now the characters need to relearn magic all over again, with a completely new set of rules. They went on also to start 'seeding' magic around Jupiter. But because it's still in its infancy, they can actually watch the magical paradigm 'form', and new creatures spawn to fill the vacuum. I don't think a lot of people have explored the idea of what an alien manafield would be like, and frankly, I'm loving it!

[Sixgun_Sage]

Let's suppose that the Horrors can come across in places other than Earth, it still benefits humanity to go out in to the stars because with corresponding locations between the astral and physical it enormously complicates things for the Horrors. Suddenly they have to go find their favorite food instead of just plopping out on to the earth and snacking. There is the additional issue of humanity becoming more spread out, with weaker mana fields only weaker Horrors can come through. A tin can habitat might not be able to support even the lowest of the low for them, and we don't know how well they would adjust to the alien manafields of other planets. I'm not saying they would see no activity on, say a habitat on planet x, but their powers might not be as strong, or function in quite the same way, due to the differences in the energy of the place. Between this and the advances in technology the Horrors cannot achieve their victory conditions if those victory conditions are "feed on metahumanity with impunity."

[Stahlseele]

Does it work like that?
Or can the stronger horrors come through with less mana than the weaker ones?

[3278]

Does it work like that?
Or can the stronger horrors come through with less mana than the weaker ones?

A little of both, oddly, probably for dramatic reasons more than anything. Some very powerful Horrors [Ysrthgrathe, for example, which, yes, I can stills spell from memory] can pierce the veil very early, and stay very late, but it requires the very peak for the real army-eating stuff [my main man Verjigorm, for instance] to come out and play.

Which is to say: whatever suited the story that week. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Error]

The point could be made that Ysrthgrathe is one of the most metahuman of the Horrors, in thought process at least. That certainly seems to be what I took away from the various Earthdawn supplements and Clockwork Asylum. His motivations might be relatively inscrutable, but his desires and the very personal nature of his preferred suffering make him a creature that can at least perceive reality on the same level as Metahumans more or less.

Its a bit of a disturbing thought, but if the Horrors only need a certain baseline level of Mana to cross over into reality from the deeps, maybe its only that the highly inhuman ones or the ones that perceive reality differently just don't notice or care until the mana level is so high that they can't help but feel it/see it.

Just a thought.

[3278]

The point could be made that Ysrthgrathe is one of the most metahuman of the Horrors, in thought process at least.

That's an interesting perception. Much was made of how human he'd become, by spending so much time tormenting a [meta]human. He's also more...determined than perhaps other Horrors might be, as you note: we don't know what the others might think about swinging by, for all they seem to dig being here, but we know for certain he'd been quite looking forward to it.

[CanRay]

"Are you kidding? Have you seen the Buffets they have in Las Vegas? It's like a smorgasbord of GREED!"

[Kagetenshi]

Twelve years, no Awakening, no Goblinization, the mana cycle doesn't seem to want to rise… perhaps we did beatt he horrors after all?

~J

[kigmatzomat]

I dunno. I think the Murder-hornets were proto-invae, covid/birdflu is the precursor to vitas, and 5G radios corrupt astral space so no goblinization but people can get Horror Marked through their cell phone.