 Can we beatt he Horrors?, It needed its own thread. |
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375  |
Oops, don't know what the hell happened there..
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Jan 6 2004, 05:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
Hence the reason this is a theoretical discussion. Hard data only holds so much weight in such discussions ;) |
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Jan 6 2004, 05:30 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Hard data holds more weight than anything else. Well, theoretically it would; we've never tested it because there is none to test with :)
~J |
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Jan 6 2004, 05:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
Please stop raping winky smilies. They've done nothing to hurt any of you.
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Jan 6 2004, 06:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
I agree, but in this conversation there is little hard data to go with. To ask how many horrors there are is like asking how many demons there are in hell. You don't know, but when the gates are flung open, all you'll be able to say is, "Wow, there's a butt load of them." ;) :D |
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Jan 6 2004, 06:06 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Or from the other perspective: "Wow, there's a butt load more than there were the last time...and what are all those shiny--aarrgghh." :dead: |
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Jan 6 2004, 06:14 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
One word: Cyberdemons.
Two more: Spider Masterminds. ~J |
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Jan 6 2004, 06:18 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
In that case, 3 more words: Pump Action Shotgun.
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Jan 6 2004, 06:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685 |
I'd prefer my trusty munchkiny BFG.
Ahh, I miss those old times a little. Sure, games are prettier but more shallow. |
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Jan 6 2004, 06:58 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
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Jan 7 2004, 12:31 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Has anyone used that? I'm more a fan of DoomLegacy myself...
~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 03:00 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
By the by, does Chantrel's Horror have a name that's just not known, or is it a case of a Horror that has managed to become amazingly powerful without having to be Named?
~J, having recently purchased Scourge Unending |
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Jan 8 2004, 04:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
From everything I've seen, it's name is Chantrel's Horror officially. |
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Jan 8 2004, 04:15 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It specifically states in Scourge Unending that because the only name known for it is Chantrel's Horror that Name-using magic is useless against it. It does seem to imply that it does in fact have a true Name that hasn't been discovered, but I wanted to check with others on that.
~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 05:34 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
kind of like
[ Spoiler ] Yes? |
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Jan 8 2004, 05:37 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Problem with that comparison is that
[ Spoiler ] On the other hand, Chantrel's Horror doesn't even refer to itself, the name comes from the fact that it apparently did rather nasty things to someone named Chantrel.~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 05:40 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Did it do something nasty to Chantrell or did this chap inadvertantly "summon" the beast....?
Meh...so I made an "inverse arguement" or "inverse statement" whatever. :) |
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Jan 8 2004, 05:56 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 17-December 03 From: CAS, Houston Member No.: 5,913 |
[grr, haven't gotten the hang of quoting, yet]
Wow, booklord...nice plot ideas, if not kind of creepy though. I was just wondering what your vote was based on those possibilities. Personally, I side with Reaver and think that Aztech is already Horror run. And no, I have no quotes or proof, just shooting the breeze so to speak. |
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Jan 8 2004, 05:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I doubt it, but some game I am going to have a trusted Johnson tell a comparatively moral running team to go kill everyone in a small village in the Yucatan, then torch the bodies and the entire village, making sure to destroy all fluid and not eat or drink anything themselves. The characters would be told that this is for the good of all, but they'd have to take the J on faith, as he's most certainly not letting them know that the town has been infected by an early-returning colony of Dread Iotas.
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Jan 8 2004, 06:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
Aztech was horror run. Oscuro was helping Mr. Darke and I think one of the bigger horrors was also involved (Bonecrown if memory serves). If they still are is up for debate, but I would think there would at least be lingering effects from thier influence. |
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Jan 8 2004, 07:47 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
IIRC, Chantrel was a troubador that Chantrel's Horror took an interest in. There wasn't any summoning involved. Chantrel's Horror is wholly Astral - it looks like an orichalcum frame within which is suspended a (meta)human body, and which is constantly being "remade" with many orichalcum blades and flesh grafts. Like, first it's a troll, and then it gets whittled down into a dwarf, then stuff gets glued on until it's an orc...etc etc.
Chantrel's Horror's MO is to find a victim (Chantrel, for example) and slaughter everyone they know and love. It never chews up its victim. Sometimes it appears to go away for a bit, even some years, and lets the victim begin to heal and forget, and then it shows up again and eviscerates their children. It has a cool power where it can make melee attacks from astral space, bypassing armor (or skin or whatever) which it likes to use to, say, make thousands of juillene fries out of every organ in a target's body while leaving their skin intact. Or spread the contents of a given metahuman across the floor in elaborate patterns. And the like. Chantrel's Horror is a real bitch. edit - typos 0wn me. |
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Jan 8 2004, 07:51 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I don't know if the entire frame was orichalcum or just some of the whirling blades, and I don't remember the remaking from reading it last night (though that may have been a detail in Horrors, which I still haven't gotten my hands on).
Properly sadistic MO, however. Mmm, being able to mark people at any range just because of association with the target individual... ~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 07:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,912 |
the remaking is in horrors. i won it a year or so ago after a tough ebay battle :)
it also states who chantrel was, and the entire passage is through her eyes. cool, to say the least. |
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Jan 8 2004, 08:41 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
No, it's not all orichalcum. But there's a bunch of it in there.
Incidentally, Astral Slice - the name of that power I mentioned - would work real well against the previously mentioned tanks and power armor. Not that I want to get into that part of the debate... :D They mention the remaking bit in Scourge Unending, as well. Also a good book and a lot easier to buy than Horrors, at this late day. |
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Jan 8 2004, 08:48 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Problem is, though, that you need to be related (in the technical sense, not the flesh-and-blood sense) to someone in the power armor or the power armor user has to have exceptionally vivid dreams, otherwise Chantrel's Horror can't Mark them.
~J |
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