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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375  |
My God. That is horrible. I mean that in all sincerity. |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:03 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
So, C'sH can't go around all nimbly-bimbly slicing and dicing? There has to be some "connection"? Such as...? |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:06 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Yeah, Chantrel's is one of the more grotesque Horrors I've read about thus far. Still not finding the bit about the humanoid being remade, though... all it says here is "bloody, demonic looking".
Who/what is Oscuro? I'm not finding any mention in Scourge Unending... (which really has an ironic title given the existence of the fifth world) ~J Edit: On a side note, not to spark a political debate, but Bone Crown and the current administration... |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:09 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
heh. Oscuro/Darke is the Big Bad's Yesman/henchman/handyman, and what have you in this world. Check out Harlequin's Back or one the Threats Books...or plow through the 30ish pages of the the "Horror" Threads. So, since we're all playing nice and exchanging info now, who's this BoneCrown character?? This post has been edited by kevyn668: Jan 8 2004, 10:09 PM |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:14 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Chantrel's chooses a victim, who it Marks. This victim it chooses because their dreams are unusually vivid, becoming accessible via the Astral plane. From that first victim (who is most of the time left personally untouched) Chantrel's Horror has the ability to Mark blood relatives of the victim with fair ease (an Average success needed), those related by marriage and lovers with decent ease but somewhat more difficulty (a Good success necessary) (my estimates of the difficulties are pure guesses, I know nothing about the mechanics side of the system), longstanding friends with the same amount of difficulty (Good success), recent friends if Chantrel's is lucky (Excellent success) and if it's a really good day, a business associate (with an Extraordinary success). In other words, while it can cut out sections of armored platoons with no warning, some people just won't have an appropriate link to someone vulnerable to the initial marking. Thus Astral Slice isn't a reason why powered armor would be ineffective on a large scale. Now that I read this, Astral Slice doesn't seem to actually require a Mark on the target, but it requires an Excellent Success which I would guess isn't the most easy of things. It's like a sniper; effective, yes, but it won't stop an entire battalion. ~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:17 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I've got Harlequin's Back. Still need to get the original Threats, though.
Bone Crown the Usurper takes the form of a Name-Giver and comes along in a time of crisis, fixing the crisis and taking a position of leadership from the grateful populace. Then it forces people to "violate their own principles in the name of authority and community stability." Bone Crown also likes to corrupt important nobles and do things that way. It also becomes more powerful the more people are directly or indirectly under its command. ~J |
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Jan 8 2004, 11:08 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
Yeah, and you know the Munchkin Brigade (or whatever they were calling it) are all clone-brothers-and-sisters, and of course they all love each other. :D
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Jan 9 2004, 01:06 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 24-August 02 Member No.: 3,168 |
So where is the evidence that this Horror Bonecrown was involved with Aztechnology? Is this accepted wisdom or is there some sort of reference for it? I'd like to know more...
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Jan 9 2004, 01:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 5,935 |
Back to C's H for a moment. You must not forget that it makes it's victim immortal, to even whole bodily destruction. You die, it just remakes you and keeps on torturing.
AZT would be be ripe for Bone Crown, Nemesis, and that group of horrors that like to set up puppet people in places of power (can't think of their name, they made the undead queen from Parlainth). Which brings me to a thought. Conventional wisdom (at least to the best of my knowledge) places one of the board members of Aztech as a horror or agent of a horror (who then funds side projects like Mr. Darke). This means that in addition to everything else that goes along with being a Megacorp they AZT is also forwarding some horrors agenda. What if it runs deeper than that? What if Bone Crown, Nemesis, and other intelligent horror of that type have made a sort of alliance where they would prop up a corperation that they could use as a front to benefit from, instead of just one of them. Perhaps that is how the horrors have advanced and adapted. They now cooperate with each other. |
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Jan 9 2004, 01:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
OK. When I first read about C's H, I thought, "That's pretty nasty. Probably would drive me to suicide. But at least then it'd be over." But this is just vile. What a goddamn nightmare. And I must say, this is why I reccomended the pro-Horror side list explicit details: the more I hear about the Horrors, the more I want to find a nice warm kaer and hide away in it. |
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Jan 9 2004, 02:01 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Yeah. Chantrel's Horror won't be tipping the balance in a strictly military sense, but it can do wonders on the morale of a few people. IIRC it's limited to a number of Marked individuals equal to the Full Moons in a given year, though. Small comfort if you're one of the chosen.
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 02:48 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Well, just terrorise the terrorist. Develop the capability to cause hurt back to the Horror and lock it in eternal embrace, learn to feed off its suffering. That way, it is not just neutralised, you can turn it against the other Horrors, turn it into your pet. |
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Jan 9 2004, 02:52 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Care to suggest a way to do this?
Remember, it's not just hurting you, it's hurting everyone you care about. If you don't care about anyone, you probably weren't very interesting prey to begin with. ~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:03 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Be a sado-masshochistic bastard and LOVE the BLOODY HORROR for giving you PAIN, sweet pain! :D It will have to hurt itself. Actually, just take a look at my sig. I'll enjoy C's H's company. :vegm: Come on honey, HURT me! |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:13 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Then you don't want Chantrel's, you want Joie.
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:18 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Come on, I get to live forever with Chantel... |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:22 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Well, do you enjoy emotional pain that much? If so, and if Chantrel's happens to like that (a big if), you might do just fine there. Joie, on the other hand, would be happy to find someone on whom the Pervert Emotions power was unneccessary, though reading the description he might do that anyway just for the other effects.
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:30 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Perhaps, but all these Emotion Horrors need to come up against is someone with a psychology so weird and twisted that causing pain and suffering to Horrors is the only thing that gives him pleasure.
And that can be quite easily done with psychotropic conditioning |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
I apologize to everyone for spawning this stuff.
That is all. |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 17-December 03 Member No.: 5,909 |
That would be an interesting entry at a pet show. well sir that's an interesting um....... im sorry what kind of dog did you say that was again. |
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Jan 9 2004, 03:52 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
A Princess Anne Terror, my good man. Otherwise known as a Queen's Collie Killer or Manservant Mauler. Notice the beady eyes and putrid breath, all Marks of a well-bred Horror. |
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Jan 9 2004, 04:02 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Okay, I'm one the most Pro-Human posters around here (GO HUMANS!!) but even I become squeamish when we start talking about your proposal, toturi. It reminded me of that whole "When you stare long in the abyss..." business. And even if we did, what do we do with an army of sickos after we win? Kill them? Turn 'em loose on society? On a related note: I think Chantrel's Horror has to be the single most evil abomination that I have ever hear of in my entire fucking life. Suddenly, those Horror Hunter sickos are starting to seem like they have a valid charter. Maybe its just because I read Dog's "When Reality Intrudes" thread... I know I'll regret this but...how do you kill that thing? It has a presence on the Astral, right? It can only harm people connected to his/her/its Favorite Mark, right? Could an astrally active mage take the big weapon foci and visit a little violence on ol' C'sH?? Or a "nethermancer"? (thats the word, right?) Oh, moosegod: don't sweat it. This is new Great Debate. Eventually someone new to the board or someone that hasn't been around for a while would come across it and toss in his/her spare yen. Besides, we all seem to like kvetching about this stuff and its informative. :) I'd like to say this again in reference to Chantrel's Horror: My God. That is horrible. |
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Jan 9 2004, 04:03 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
:rotfl: |
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Jan 9 2004, 04:05 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I prefer the term, "Contemplate the void." And since these guys are psychotropically programed, they can be deprogrammed after we've won. |
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Jan 9 2004, 04:12 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
No, actually, it can do its Astral Slice against anyone, though probably not reliably. Regardless, once you're on the astral it can dice you up regardless, and comparing the damage step with some of the other damage steps in the book it seems to dice rather effectively. It is, statwise, flat-out better than Artificer in every way save Toughness, and also in catagories like armor and mystic armor. Yes, it could theoretically be done, but it would be an awe-inspiring task. It seems to be among the most powerful Horrors listed in the book. On a side note, my respect goes to FASA and Living Room Games for the creation of Earthdawn, only the second campaign setting to ever include details to flat-out make me shudder and the other one (Ravenloft in 2nd ed D&D) I was much younger at time of exposure to. ~J |
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