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Can we beat the horrors?
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post Jan 2 2005, 08:40 PM
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In this new age of magic there is a unchecked power....think of a horror that could manipulate the matrix. By the existince of the horrors it's very possible. From what I have read the horrors are like nightmares, like Freddy...but way cooler since they physically manifest. So if the horrors start popping up in the 6th world...and some decker somewhere has a nightmare about a horror in the matrix...KaBOOM New horror in the matrix. The G.O.D. is gonna have a field day with that thing.
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post Jan 3 2005, 11:23 AM
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just remember people Named hoorors and named dragins have something in common... if you kill it... it is gone.

Major point if someone finally goes and scores those 2 million Legend points for killing Verjigorm (or if someone did it last cycle) no more Verjigorm ditto for almost all the great horrors. Except Nebis but with the nebising amount of magicians with astral capabilities in SR and the sheer nebis of such adept types that can see astral, unlike in the fourth world, then even the most nebis skeptic has to agree that nebis is out nebised in this 6th NEBIS. and if anyNEBIS has the NEBIS to argue this NEBIS with me then i will NEBIS the NEBIS NEBIS

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post Jan 3 2005, 12:18 PM
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Keep in mind that Draconic legend suggests that snuffing Verjigorm may cause the sudden and immediate termination of the world.

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post Jan 3 2005, 12:35 PM
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Too fucking bad. When opportunity knocks, metahumanity will just have to find out.
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post Jan 3 2005, 12:37 PM
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Humanity has always been best at ensuring its own destruction.

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post Jan 3 2005, 12:41 PM
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Then obviously we suck untold amounts of ass at everything, since we have never even come close to managing that, nor are we making any real progress towards that goal.
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post Jan 3 2005, 12:43 PM
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Really? I thought we were doing quite well.

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post Jan 3 2005, 12:45 PM
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We're still here ... we still thrive despite large amounts of stupidity and self-destructive behavior.
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post Jan 3 2005, 12:45 PM
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We are more populous than ever and we are getting ready to colonize space. I would say we are exceedingly inept at destroying ourselves.
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post Jan 3 2005, 12:55 PM
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We're closer to rendering this planet inhabitable than ever and I'd say we're quite far indeed from colonizing space to any sustainable degree.

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post Jan 3 2005, 12:58 PM
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draconic legend says that and the original Hypothesis for the Manhattan project said it had a 50% chance of ignighting the atmosphere of earth, killing everything...
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post Jan 3 2005, 01:20 PM
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Wasn't there fears about the first particle accelerators, that they might cause the university to collapse or some such BS?

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We're closer to rendering this planet inhabitable than ever and I'd say we're quite far indeed from colonizing space to any sustainable degree.

Closer than ever, and yet unfathomably far away. Mother Nature is orders of magnitude better at making earth inhabitable and has proved it innumerable times. Also, consider the likelihood of global warming, pollution, starvation, nuclear warfare or any other theoretical man-made catastrophy wiping out civilization, or indeed the whole of humanity, before sustainable space colonization is achieved.
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post Jan 3 2005, 01:32 PM
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Not sure if this has been brought up or not, and I'm not steeped enough in Earthdawn lore to really understand the Horrors...

But... Dissonance anyone?
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post Jan 3 2005, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
We're closer to rendering this planet inhabitable than ever and I'd say we're quite far indeed from colonizing space to any sustainable degree.

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That's like saying "today I am closer to dying than ever before."

Or that the sun is closer to dying than ever before.

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post Jan 3 2005, 02:12 PM
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Both of which are quite true. The sun isn't a good comparison, though, because it isn't actively assisting its downfall (that we know).

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post Jan 3 2005, 02:19 PM
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Sure it is. It keeps burning that limited supply of hydrogen. When will it ever learn that being a fusion reactor means burning out?! Oh, the solarity.
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post Jan 3 2005, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (noneuklid)
Not sure if this has been brought up or not, and I'm not steeped enough in Earthdawn lore to really understand the Horrors...

But... Dissonance anyone?

Say ye rather, Psychotrope/Mirage.

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post Jan 3 2005, 02:29 PM
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Yes. They're both technically true but not very accurate.

I could die tomorrow. Or I could get Leonization and die a century from now.

Humanity could wipe itself out next week or last several thousand millenia and then "ascend" or some crap.

As for rendering the planet unihabitable, I don't think that humnas could actually do that. We may be able to make it unihabitable for us and kill most of the life on the planet but eventually the planet would clean itself up and life would start over. It could take a few million years but but it would happen.
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post Jan 3 2005, 02:44 PM
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Sure. But that helps us how again?

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post Jan 3 2005, 03:06 PM
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Then the human race will be reborn.
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post Jan 3 2005, 03:26 PM
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Only this time as perfect beings with feathered and forms of pure energy?

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post Jan 3 2005, 04:01 PM
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It seems to me to be just a general comment on humans rendering the planet "uninhabitable", not a comment on HvsH. Killing all life from earth would require us to get rid of the oceans and the topmost 10km+ of the earth's crust, and that just isn't going to happen very soon. Most life, easily. All life, nope.

[Edit]Oops, uninhabitable indeed.[/Edit]
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post Jan 3 2005, 04:06 PM
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Again, it isn't terribly meaningful to humanity that cockroaches will survive. It isn't even particularly meaningful to them if all life survives save humanity.

Two errors in my earlier statement: first, I obviously meant uninhabitable, and more accurately I meant uninhabitable to humanity.

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post Jan 3 2005, 04:11 PM
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You do know that people have always been whinging on about how civilization is crumbling, humanity is doomed, and "things today just aren't as good as they are when I was growing up," right? I mean, pretty much since the beginning.
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post Jan 3 2005, 04:35 PM
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And if you look at history, civilization has a tendency to crumble relatively regularly. Only now we're affecting the entirety of the atmosphere/etc., not just a local area.

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