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 Mar 30 2006, 09:38 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 453 Joined: 15-August 02 From: Kansas City, MO Member No.: 3,116  |
Independence, a mile north of the sports complex, which if it doesn't get that roof will probably be just a giant rock-strewn field in 2070. ;) No group or store affiliation, though I spend my brick and mortor dollars at Monty's if at all possible. |
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Mar 30 2006, 09:45 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
Very interesting. I read that as a perfect opportunity to use Aztechnology then. With something like that setup both ways, they would have a HUGE vested interest in KC since it would be their primary distrobution center for the entire UCAS. |
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Mar 30 2006, 10:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Lenexa, Kansas (Yes Kansas, we ain't all hicks y'all.) Member No.: 8,291 |
Craziness! I'm at Tabletop all the time*, that's where I fill all my gaming needs. *By all the time, I mean, like, twice a week. Which really isn't all the time at all. But I love hyperbole. Hyperbole is the greatest achievement of mankind, ever. |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:05 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
Now this is just creepy, whats with all the KC'ers on this forum?! :) Anyway, I am up there all the time as well. Name's Ryan Powell. I mainly play miniatures games (Warhammer, 40k, Bloodbowl etc.). I am friends with Phill and most of the regulars. |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Lenexa, Kansas (Yes Kansas, we ain't all hicks y'all.) Member No.: 8,291 |
Cool, I'm Walter Stewart, I play Warhammer up there on Friday's mostly, but I hang out with friends there alot, I'm pretty sure I've seen you around there. Admittedly I am terrible with names/faces.
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Mar 30 2006, 11:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
This is just getting weird....
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Mar 30 2006, 11:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
I don't know about basketball, but I would guess that the Chiefs would still be in the area. They may not be the "Chiefs" anymore, but.... In our game, my gm told me that the area around Kemper has been converted into an Urban Brawl arena. Plus, there's the new Arena Football League team, the Brigade. Would they still be around? I think if the Royals still exist, it would have to be in one of those leagues that allow enhancements, just to give them an even shot. :P Maybe we should wait until after the vote to include the roof, or determine the fate of the Truman Sports Complex.... |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
Well, the trendy place to move now is North of the River, at least on the Missouri side. Where's the growing trend headed west of State Line? There's Parkville, Riverside, Liberty, Platte City...how far has the sprawl spread? Personally, I think Gladstone should have declined to at least a B-C zone, but that's just me.... |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:37 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
There are no Kansas City Chiefs in Shadowbeat, but then again there's no Cardinals team either, and yet they won the Superbowl in SoNA (although it didn't say where they are, I guess going home to Chicago's out, so maybe they went back to St. Louis or even *gasp* stayed in Phoenix).
The Royals are still around, in the Central Division. There's nothing about any KC basketball, combat biking or urban brawl teams. Oh, doesn't KC have MLS soccer and hockey? They'd still be around, I imagine. |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
Whiteman is a good idea, but I don't know about letting Leavenworth fall apart.
The US Disciplinary Barracks thing would be hard to move, I think.... |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:45 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Plus there's also the matter of, you know, the Sioux Nation breathing down your neck.
CAS, too. |
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Mar 31 2006, 12:58 AM
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Exactly. Over the road and railway handles something like 99% of the flow of goods today, and I don't see that changing drastically just because the airplanes can go higher now. Fuel is too expensive and so on... :) So you could have areas with lots of warehouses, trucking depots, heavy rail lines and depots, and so on. Also, you might see a large number of shipping and transport companies. FedEx might have a major UCAS headquarters there (in addition to Memphis for the CAS) and Union Pacific might have relocated to KC from Omaha, which gives you air and rail traffic. Add a trucking company (or hell, Werner Trucking from Omaha again) and you've got more corporate players added to the mix. The only other thing I would add is that having more than one organized crime group in town provides for some built in conflict, and shadowrunners just love a good conflict. If you add Mitsuhama into the mix, you have a Yak presence right there. Or maybe there was a major influx of Chinese immigrants during one of the refugee periods. The Chinese might well bring triads along with them. They don't have to be big in order to create an opportunity for work. And alternatively, if the Mafia is all alone in town, they could get complacent pretty quickly. Maybe one of the largest gangs can grow to a size that causes the pinstriped set a few issues. My 2 nuyen, omae. It looks fun either way! |
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Mar 31 2006, 03:39 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
Taking some of the input I re-worded a few things. I am waiting to hear back from another GM before I go further with the south-land. More than likely I will have a tornado ravage parts of JoCo (I removed that from the MO side) eventually leading to its demise.
Areas of the Metro: Aztechnology Distribution Center: This massive complex serves as the primary distribution center and inland-port for Aztechnology. Located in the West Bottoms it is used for customs inspection, storage, packaging and shipping via both truck and rail. The center is a combination of high-rise office buildings, corporate warehouses, docking garages, and industrial grade machinery. Obviously the highest level of security is maintained at all times, both physical and magical. Suburbs: Independence, Missouri (A-D Rated Zone): Littered with warehouses, trucking depots, and vast tracks of apartment housing, Independence makes up a large portion of the east-side of town. Some of the largest BTL and drug production in all of the UCAS also occurs in this suburban sprawl. It is rumored that roughly 25% of all Cram originates from here. Its location along I70 makes it a perfect place for smuggling goods to and from St. Louis and the CAS. Kansas City, Kansas (B-D Rated Zone): With both I70 and I35 bordering the city; goods coming from both the NAN and the CAS are usually dropped, inspected, and subsequently shipped from one of the many warehouse facilities and rail yards that make up the southern portion of Kansas City Kansas. Residential apartment housing, small business zones and isolated single-family homes make up the rest of the city. Leavenworth, Kansas (AAA Rated Zone): Lone Star moved into this area in 2027 shortly after the closing of Fort Leavenworth. Combining prisons and forming the Leavenworth Security Complex; this private penitentiary serves the entire state of Kansas in addition to the Kansas City metro area. Raytown, Missouri (B-C Rated Zone): Known for its strong anti-metahuman feelings, extreme racial violence is common, with the Humanis Policlub having a strong foothold. Several racist gangs exist, although they are largely tolerated by the population as they see them as "protectors" and "warriors" against the actions of meta-humans. A sizeable percentage of households still live in single-family homes, with apartment housing making up the rest. Blue Springs, Missouri (E Rated Zone): Located at the far east of Kansas City along I70, this decaying suburb is known as a haven for smugglers, drug-runners, chipheads, and gangs. Northland, Missouri (A-C Rated Zone): Framed by I435, I29, and I35 this suburb consists of what was once North Kansas City and Gladstone. Due to its proximity to Downtown it saw an influx of residents following the Crash of ’29. Blocks upon blocks of apartment housing was constructed to compensate. Entertainment – Gambling: Gambling has been legal in the state of Missouri since 1991, with Kansas following suit in 2013. Today is no different, as the casino’s play a huge part in the economy of the city. Officially anything outside of blood sports is legal, although as usual the UCAS places restrictions on wagers, odds, etc. Several large-scale casinos exist within the Metro. Most of these establishments are controlled or influenced by the local Mafia in one way or another. While there are a few privately-owned ones not under the thumb of the Mafia, it has been rumored that their profits belong to the Comanche Mafia. No official link has been found between them and the NAN to date however. I really need to expand on this more, but I would like to make the casino names a bit more 2070 and not just hold-overs from current day. Thoughts? Entertainment - Nightlife Café Echelon (Crossroads): An unusual combination of cafe and nightclub; the Café Echelon is a single-story building surrounded by a small park. Ran by an Irish-elf named Somhairle, this establishment is quite popular with awakened, elves, and young successful corporate drones (mainly for bragging rights). |
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Mar 31 2006, 05:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
I would guess that Harrah's might stay the same, but according to SoNA, the Mirage is still around in Las Vegas(run by the Wynne conglomerate), as well as the Flamingo gaming group. I'd say bring the Flamingo back to KC. Then you can decide exactly how many casinos you want, where they're located, and name 'em. (Or have a Dumpshock poll of some sort to name 'em.) |
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Mar 31 2006, 05:38 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
Excellent, I haven't picked up a copy of SoNA yet, so maybe I should. All I have to work from currently is the SR4 book, Underground, and Sprawl Survival Guide.
Thanks for the input, will grab a PDF copy of SoNA and see what it has, I forgot that Vegas was detailed in it, so that will be a big help. |
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Apr 5 2006, 07:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 453 Joined: 15-August 02 From: Kansas City, MO Member No.: 3,116 |
So, how is this progressing? Please post your updated doc when it's available. Looking forward to it. =)
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Apr 5 2006, 08:45 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
On distribution Infrastructure:
http://www.morgansoutherninc.com/kansascity.html Is a trucking company I hire when I need to move Steamship Containers to and from the Rail Yards and Container Yards in KC. More shipping companies than you would expect keep a stock of 20's and 40's in the area. The address will probably help you get an idea of where to locate the infrastructure, rail yards are pretty hard to move and trucking companies, warehouses, and container yards tend to cluster around them. |
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Apr 6 2006, 12:12 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
I have been working with a local GM (Valentinew's actually) on a more detailed, and better document. Its 7-8 pages now and is a lot better IMHO. Currently I just need to finish up the Sports section, revise the Gambling section a bit, and I should be able to post another version for review. I was considering offering this as a website as well as a printable PDF, would people find that more useful than just the document? I also really need to get my game going! So after this, I will probably only do minor revisions so I can start fleshing out my games NPC's and the like. |
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Apr 6 2006, 02:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 453 Joined: 15-August 02 From: Kansas City, MO Member No.: 3,116 |
Depends on what form the site takes, I guess. =) For my own part, a PDF is just fine. The original source file would be even better, though, to customize and build upon. You should consider a Creative Commons license. =)
Once again, great work. =) |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:17 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I don't trust any PDF that has to be zipped.
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Apr 6 2006, 08:19 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
two karma for making everyone at the table laugh. |
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Apr 6 2006, 03:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
So THAT'S why we haven't received our latest karma award yet! :rotfl: |
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Apr 7 2006, 02:16 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 16-March 06 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 8,384 |
Good point. For some reason the version that I put up gave an error if you tried to view it with IE/Firefox instead of downloading it and looking with Reader (or full if you have it), as such I zipped it to avoid the rash of "it gives me an error" posts. :) I wanted feedback so didn't worry so much about figuring out what object was causing the error. |
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