 Everyday Gear for Runners Item Poll, Item 1, Floss |
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 Jan 17 2006, 09:55 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996  |
So this is the first should we or shouldn't we use it item for the Everyday Gear for Runners project I'm working with Redshirt on. We're still in the brainstorm and elinitate stuff phase, but I thought I'd try to generate a little buzz and get some opinions by periodically posting polls on some of the more oddball things we've thought of.
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Jan 17 2006, 10:22 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
You could use it if it were monofilament floss. And you had diamond teeth.
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Jan 17 2006, 10:28 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to ask if we meant monowire floss.
No I mean good old fashioned dental floss, waxed of unwaxed in your choice of flavors. My bias is that it's useful, it has decent tensile strength for the diameter, comes in a convenient carrying and dispensing case, and is cheap and completely legal. |
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Jan 17 2006, 10:30 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Yeah, but in terms of sheer tensile strength, it's not nearly strong enough to choke anything larger than a newborn kitten.
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Jan 17 2006, 10:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 22-September 05 Member No.: 7,770 |
You'de need heavy test weight fishing wire to even try the garote.
Unless that's what your character specializes in, I'd say it's pretty useless. :evil: |
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Jan 17 2006, 11:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 775 Joined: 31-March 05 From: florida Member No.: 7,273 |
use it as a trip wire on an old fashioned grenade pin. Would break on the pin's actual resistance, but using it to trigger a dead drop that pulled the pin would work
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Jan 17 2006, 11:38 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Actually since you mention it on the tensile strength, it might be a good idea to actually test it ala mythbusters.
I Just need a hook scale, some floss, and someone to pull on it...... |
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Jan 18 2006, 12:40 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
-Frank |
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Jan 18 2006, 01:03 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
Duct tape is duct tape.
But from what I hear, dental floss can also make an improvised garrotte or trip wire. |
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Jan 18 2006, 01:04 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
That sounds a lot more useful than I would have thought - but I'd still say a runner would probably be better off with fishing line.
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Jan 18 2006, 01:06 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
Only if you have something that'll serve as improvised handles and the time to set them up, or you don't mind slicing your fingers to the bone. |
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Jan 18 2006, 01:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Or if you're wearing armored gloves, or have dermal plating. |
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Jan 18 2006, 03:22 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
Perhaps, but if you're wearing armored gloves or have dermal plating even on the palms of your hands (Ouch... Must make personal hygiene an exciting adventure.) carrying floss to use as an improvised garrotte because it's inconspicuous isn't really going to be much help. |
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Jan 18 2006, 04:24 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Well, armored gloves aren't that conspicous, considering how common armored clothing is.
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Jan 18 2006, 08:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 22-September 05 Member No.: 7,770 |
Then why not have a built in garote wire in the glove... or your watch... or doc-wagon bracelet... But putting the choke wire trick aside, floss seems relatively useful and I could see it as included in a survival or bio-kit. As for my games, I don't see many MacGyver type characters, which cuts down on many general uses for floss. |
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Jan 18 2006, 11:08 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
could be handy for ghoul and shape shifter characters :D
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Jan 18 2006, 11:16 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 6-June 05 Member No.: 7,431 |
either my neck is particularly strong or osco brand dental floss cannot be used as a garrote. it is strong enough to cause quite a bit of pain in the fingers if not used with handles such as screwdrivers or toothbrush. yes there are a number of uses for thin ropes and while dental floss is strong enough for many of them. heavy gauge fishing line is probably a better bet for most of them.
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Jan 18 2006, 03:51 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Definitely should be included. I think too many shadowrunners neglect dental hygene. That sort of thing catches up with you in the end. Do you think Fastjack wears dentures? No way, he needs that 5 essence for much more important things.
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Jan 18 2006, 05:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 21-July 05 Member No.: 7,510 |
With dental floss and a 6pack of soybeer, you can put together a couple of communication devices, and if you're a lightweight, it might even seem like a good idea... :grinbig:
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Jan 18 2006, 05:43 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
I've always envisioned fastjack and most deckers as these guys who are usually parapalegics, strapped to their chair, decking 24/7, on a respirator, and given food/fluids intravenously and such. Who cares about dentures, your food is gonna be baby food spoon fed to ya! Think of all the flaw bonuses you get! ;-) :silly: |
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Jan 18 2006, 06:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
Just use your Gerber/Leatherman pocket tool (you DO have one, right?) to straighten the split ends of the cotter pin. Dental floss is plenty strong then. |
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Jan 18 2006, 06:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
Dental floss (and container) would be a good used in finding monofilament wire traps, toss the box, hold onto the line, if the floss falls into 2 or more pieces, you've got a monofilament trap. Another way to do this is thread tied to a bouncy ball ( one of my characters had a bouncy ball for just such an occasion)
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Jan 18 2006, 07:47 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Soybeer? Thatīs were I draw the line. Why wouldnīt they still grow normal grains for beer and bread? Hell, they can make pretty good beer out of corn even if the malt is scarce, but soy? sorry for being off topic |
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Jan 18 2006, 07:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
You know, that reminds me... Why is real food so expensive and scarce in the 6th world, anyway? Was there a massive disaster of some sort that contaminated most of the world's farmland and pastures, or is this another case of SR doing cyberpunk-for-cyberpunk's-sake, without a good explanation? It's sort of hard to buy, with just about every developed country paying their farmers huge subsidies to produce only a small fraction of the potential output and keep the markets stable... |
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Jan 18 2006, 08:08 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
no. it's more of a supply and demand thing. krill and soy-based foods = soo much cheaper than real food, so demand fell off, so farmers went out of jobs, bought up by corporate interests, developed, or turned into a corp megafarm. either way, it ain't owned by farmers anymore. and if was close enough to the city, it becomes part of the sprawl.
once again, soy is cheaper than regullar grains. (just guessing. but probably true) |
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