Game pace., How do you make your games move? Options

[emo samurai]

This was inspired by my D&D game, where people constantly make shitty jokes and then laugh about them in Summoner Geeks voices. They even quote Summoner Geeks. And laugh at the quotes in Summoner Geeks voices.

Plus, my fucking GM looks at her notes for everything, taking 45 seconds to begin answering a question about a spell that's on a scroll. She's really, really slow, and I think she has a problem. Even given that, she shouldn't GM, since a GM should be quick-witted.

I have since quit this D&D game.

So... how do you keep these things from happening in your game? How do you make everybody shut up without pissing them off? How do you keep everyone on track? And how do you make yourself GM faster?

[fistandantilus4....]

Well, for GM-ing faster, be familiar with your material. Much of that jsut comes with time and practice. Getting familiar with rules until they become second nature.

As for Summoner geeks, I have a guy that does that. I throw things at him.

[emo samurai]

[fistandantilus4....]

I use a system of escalated violence. It starts with throwing a couch pillow or something to that effect, and goes up in hardness/density of said thwon object until the deired result is achieved. hyzmarca could probably wrtie a great formula for that.

Failing violence, especially if you don't have a lot of room, or innocent bystandards ,you could apply good ol' "Bad karma". I kind of took a variant of the thing from the Shadowrun Companion, basically giving the bad guys karma, or more edge in SR4, specifically against people that detract from the game over all. I use it as a last ditch, so peopel tend to pay attention to it.

I also use it if anyone steps on one of my books.

[Dog]

Sometimes the game session is the only opportunity for some guys to get together. It might be a worthwhile investment to sit around and shoot the breeze for a half hour or so before you start. Catch up on gossip, tell stupid jokes and all that.
For a GM not to waste time they need two things: preparation and improvisation skills. Have notes prepared, and for heaven's sake, be organized! If you don't have an answer, make one up.

[fistandantilus4....]

We always "start" at 1pm, and actually start around 2:30. I completely agree with ya' Dog.

emo, just keep in mind why everyone is overthere. Some just want to chit chat, some just want to get things done.

[Kagetenshi]

I'd love to be totally organized for every session, but I'd love to pass my classes more. Some things are just more important than making sure no question requires a minute to answer.

On the other hand, if you know you aren't going to remember things, writing them down in some semblance of order doesn't take much time and helps later.

~J

[fistandantilus4....]

For a lot of people, just the act of writing it down sticks it in your memory better. or it could just be that your DM is scatterbarined. it happens, just don't give her any caffeine. You might just need a better DM. Or maybe it's emo taht needs de-caf. Just a thought. But I do agree that a good DM is quick on their feet, good at improvising. It's harder if you have to reference notes all the time. Is it a new DM?

[emo samurai]

I think so, but I'm much less experienced than she is, and much faster, if I say so myself.

And it's not just D&D. Like when I call to schedule a game, I'll name a time, and she'll take about 10 seconds thinking about it. It's not a "looking at the schedule" pause, either; it's a "I'm looking side to side and blinking a lot" pause. There's no shuffling of paper, and she does the same thing in person.

[James McMurray]

Keep the game itself moving fast. People stop and chat about old worn out jokes when the game moves slow. If every time someone mentions World of Warcraft you have ninjas attack, people will eventually stop mentioning World of Warcraft. Alternatively, when things go slow have the ninjas pre-emptively attack and cut off the opportunity for chatter.

[emo samurai]

Hmmm... Ninjas!!!

[fistandantilus4....]

some people just process things at differnet paces. Maybe you jsut need more patience? If it's relly bad have someone else run the game, or perhaps a co-DM.or learn to cope, it's just the way she is.

[emo samurai]

Nah, I just quit. It was, like, 8 hours a week, and last week, everything turned out to be a dream sequence that nobody got experience from.

[fistandantilus4....]

:eek:

QUIT!? For THAT!? Send in the freaking drop bears for that!

[mintcar]

:D You totally wouldn't be able to stand me in person, Emo, and it would propably be mutual too. The net is a grand thing for cutting out all the chemistry and manerisms so that very different people can conversate without going apeshit.

[fistandantilus4....]

I'm fine with a long game that was all a dream, as long as it was interesting. but no exp, that's bunk.

maybe you should try subjecting your group to personality tests before you play with them? :spin:

[Fortune]

[Kagetenshi]

FAIL

~J

[emo samurai]

WHO FAIL?

[Kyoto Kid]

...before I launch a new campaign with new players, I do two things

I meet with them in a non play session to go over characters give a background leading up to the campaign's launch, outline any house rules that I am employing, and lay down basic ground rules to keep things moving and enjoyable.

Next, I set up a "test run" session, using a one night "SR Missions" type scenario. This allows me to see how the players/characters work (or don't work) together, assess the team's power level, and whether the players are there to participate in the game or just socialise. This works most of the time.

[Wounded Ronin]

Well, if people are actively joking around, I would just tell them the game's started.

If people are stuck because the lack ideas I sit there in stony, Ozymandius-like silence and let them stew.

I wasn't really ever a user of the "now there's ogres" tactic to push people.

[Fortune]

[Black Jack Rackh...]

[Ryu]

What I sometimes need to do is set a limit on real-world planning time. I´ll give something like 30min for discussion, then I´ll wrap their ideas up (if needed) and make them decide.

The non-roleplaying discussions mostly die down once the game started. Thats when rules discussions take over. Those have two effects:
a)if it can´t be adressed shortly, it is delayed until after the game (the main rulesmonger is female, so bitching WILL happen)
b)if the request itself is not resonable, the player just painted "target" on her forehead. Higher thresholds (SR4 for us) for success, getting shot at... I´m not always as grown up as my age would make you hope. The basic hope here is to establish that unreasonable requests don´t lead to positive things, so need not be discussed until one side "won". Note that a) takes precendence.

Another thing to do is reduce the complexity of the tasks your players have to do. Decisions concerning their contacts are more interesting than checking the security network for blind spots AGAIN. Strategy games are better played on a PC or with a table top, and the tactically oriented players can be pleased better with a few combat scenes where a simple shoot-out is NOT the best solution. To much planning bores the roleplayers.

One should also try to rope the silent players into the game. One ex-GM of mine had the annoying habit of monopolising the game when playing. Stop that early by asking specific questions to the silent types and leading the hyperactive player to research something in person (easy "trap" for those). That one will be to busy getting back into the game to start OT discussions.

[fistandantilus4....]