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 Apr 16 2004, 06:39 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 29-March 04 Member No.: 6,203  |
Does anybody know if Vampires, ghouls, etc can be possessed by insect spirits? I want to run an adventure where the runners come up agaist a number of roach possessed ghouls and I wanted to know if it's feasable.
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Apr 16 2004, 07:02 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
Just do it. It's perfectly fine to say, in your campaign, that an Insect Shaman came up with a metamagic technique that lets his spirits possess ghouls, or that in your campaign a variant strain of the ghoul disease allows it to infect already-inhabited roach flesh forms. If it's a good plot line, don't slow down a minute to look for obscure rules that say yes or no whether this can happen on a regular basis.
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Apr 16 2004, 08:55 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Its certainly an intresting concept. While we're at it, Dragons are considered Name Givers, as well as I am assuming Drakes. Can they be invested as well?
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Apr 16 2004, 09:34 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,948 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
About the toughest adversary we ever had was a vampire possessed by a free spirit in New Orleans. I think it was from an adventure that appeared in a magazine.
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Apr 16 2004, 09:37 AM
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Harlequin Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861 |
I'd go with OurTeams suggestion. It's your game after all. :)
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Apr 16 2004, 10:30 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
don't see anything in AH's insect spirits file about Name Givers. are they harder to infect, or something?
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Apr 16 2004, 11:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
It's the ED term for sentience, I believe. Dragons and meta-humans and humans are name givers. In theory, it's possible (heck, a dragon did get possessed by a horror). If it makes sense in your story, go ahead and spin it.
Oh, and the vampire better hope it's a fleshform, or otherwise the body's gone. Don |
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Apr 16 2004, 01:17 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 |
That's awful. |
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Apr 16 2004, 03:54 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
1) "Name Givers" is not a term denoting sentience per se. Many ED beings are sentient and not Name Givers.
2) According to Threats 2, Awakened Animals can be invested with insect spirits. THis means you can invest a vampire, wendigo, great dragon, juggernaut, SURGEd butteryfly, whatever. |
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Apr 16 2004, 03:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 29-March 04 Member No.: 6,203 |
Thanks for the replys! I'm now off to horrify my players...
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Apr 16 2004, 04:07 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Reston VA, USA Member No.: 6,046 |
I remember that one! Vampire possessed by super-high level Petro Loa. All the scariest powers rolled into a single uber-muchie (Regeneration, Immunity to Weapons, High-Level Initiate Magic Skills, No Drain, Enhanced Physical Attributes...) If I remember right, they also had some really overpowered spell called 'Boil Blood'. Does anybody have the stats on that spell? |
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Apr 16 2004, 05:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,118 |
I actually had a similar idea for a bizarre combo-creature, specifically a toxic mutant adult Western dragon. In addition to all the fun I could have with mutations and toxic powers, it'd become a magical threat and get all kinds of magical power from its Potency, to boot.
Radioactive breath weapon, enhanced venom, control over the mutated paracritters in its former toxic bunker lair, advanced toxic metamagics... it would've been sweet. |
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Apr 16 2004, 06:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 22-October 03 Member No.: 5,757 |
So in otherwords you're remaking Godzilla.... :)
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Apr 16 2004, 06:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 22-June 02 From: Parts Without Member No.: 2,897 |
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of gamer-men....
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Apr 16 2004, 06:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,118 |
Magically powerful, malignly intelligent Godzilla.
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Apr 16 2004, 06:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 22-October 03 Member No.: 5,757 |
You should make a second radioactive toxic adult western dragon and infect it with a techno-organic virus (aka nanomachines) that change the chemical makeup of organic cells into a sillicone and metal structure. So....
MECHAGODZILLA WILL RULE YOU! |
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Apr 16 2004, 07:40 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
And a giant toxic mutant awakened moth.
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Apr 16 2004, 08:07 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
We love you Gammera!
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Apr 16 2004, 08:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
Uhm, wasn't there a thriving ghoul community in the containment zone in Chicago? Those books suggested ghouls - possibly because of their dual nature - could not be possessed.
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Apr 16 2004, 09:14 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
That was the Cabrini Compound, or Refuge. I dont recall anything about posession, but its been a good while since ive read Bug City.
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Apr 16 2004, 09:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Houston Member No.: 6,197 |
Or it was, anyway.
When Ares released that Strain III into the CZ to fumigate the bugs, they kind of got the Ghouls too. Heh. Whoops. |
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Apr 17 2004, 01:21 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 29-March 04 Member No.: 6,203 |
Can anybody else shed some light on this?
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Apr 17 2004, 02:18 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Ghouls are dual-natured. THus, they could see bugs on the astral, and fight them there too. THis gave them an advantage. In other places, bug spirits could go astral, get behind the defenders, and pop back into the physical and massacree 'em. Or send in a physical merge infilitrator.
Unfortunately, the magic-feeding FAB-III Delta locked on to the dual natured ghouls and sucked their Essence out. No more Cabrini Refuge. |
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Apr 17 2004, 02:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 24-January 04 Member No.: 6,013 |
No Godzilla. There's already a Hearth Spririt that imiates him in a certain club, known as the Rubber Suit, as Survival of the Fittist did dictate. And as much as I'm a fan of the Big G, I do belive the King of the Monsters should stay in his own timeline.
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Apr 17 2004, 06:08 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 26-February 02 From: DC/NOVA, USA Member No.: 80 |
Reminds me of the scary combos I was tossing around in my head as possible uber-bad-guys in my game:
A dead dragon possessed by a shedim -- instant dracolich. For even more evil, make it a master shedim, or use a great dragon, or both. An HMHVV-infected human cyberzombie. Sure, there'd need to be some handwaving involved to allow the cybervampire to keep full use of all the keen gear, but just think of the possibilities. Needless to say, since I still have players willing to belly up to my table, I have never actually used these massive examples of GM overkill... |
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