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Is Dis behind the rise of Megacorps?
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hyzmarca

Apr 10 2006, 06:56 PM

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I was just looking through the 1st edition Earthdawn BBB and came across this tidbit.

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In addition to the slavers, Dis also inspires bureaucrats who create paperwork merely to look busy, rather than out of a need for the records or fondness for their work. Few activities spread boredom more effectively than generating useless records and information, and Dis spends a great deal of her time encouraging people to do just that.

I don't believe that there can possibly be a better testamentto the fact that the Passions still wield great power even now.

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Valentinew View Member Profile	Apr 10 2006, 07:02 PM Post #2
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922	Dis has been sleeping peacefully in the depths of government wrapped in red tape....

Grinder View Member Profile	Apr 10 2006, 08:47 PM Post #3
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Dis grows stronger every day... Vestrival and Raggok too, that's quite sure. The queston is: what's with the other passions?

Ophis View Member Profile	Apr 10 2006, 09:46 PM Post #4
Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760	The passions are dead! Long live the passions. I went for humans being insane. Dis is dead as man rise something like Dis will arise. Though vestrial was last seen giving harle a job...

nezumi View Member Profile	Apr 11 2006, 02:08 PM Post #5
Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760	Ah, but is Dis an individual entity with a clearly delineated birth and death, or the manifestation of an abstract concept? If it's the latter, I have no question that Dis will reappear, albeit with a different face and name.

Witness View Member Profile	Apr 11 2006, 04:31 PM Post #6
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319	[ Spoiler ] In my opinion, Deus=Dis, and Mirage=Mynbruje. Check out the parallels yourself. In my game there is another AI which evolved in the servers of a space opera Matrix Game called Loophole (released in the 2050s by a corp called Horizon Inc). This AI, which has been discretely working against Deus since the shutdown ended, hasn't exactly let its name be known yet (its 2063) but in the game 'Loophole' there is an alien deity which the game designers jokingly named after the game server- 'Localhost', or Lochost for short. ;)

Witness View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 01:21 AM Post #7
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319	Why is it that every time I open my mouth on this board there's a big fat silence! Maybe I should propose using a Force 16 Air Spirit to fracture every enemy's gun barrel! Maybe that'd provoke some discussion! ;)

Ophis View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 01:29 AM Post #8
Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760	Maybe the spirits of tumbleweeds love you? Interesting idea on the AIs though.

Kanada Ten View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 01:38 AM Post #9
Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826	System Failure sort of introduces matrix "idols", who seem different from AI, but having AI match Passions is an interesting idea.

Platinum View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 01:42 AM Post #10
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115	If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to do this, so just walk away.

Kanada Ten

Apr 13 2006, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE (Platinum)

If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to
do this, so just walk away.

I've already done Horrors in the Matrix. Years ago.

James McMurray View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 01:56 AM Post #12
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957	Is that a thousand babies I hear crying?

Witness View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 02:01 AM Post #13
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319	No I think it might be the sound of Rocks Burrow. ;)

James McMurray View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 02:15 AM Post #14
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957	Is taht the name of the song that ends the world? I've always wondered.

Platinum

Apr 13 2006, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE (Kanada Ten)

QUOTE (Platinum @ Apr 12 2006, 08:42 PM)

If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to
do this, so just walk away.

I've already done Horrors in the Matrix. Years ago.

I am coming to get you. <<Eyes being to glow red>>

James McMurray View Member Profile	Apr 13 2006, 04:17 AM Post #16
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957	If you're going to uphold your promise you'll first have to kill yourself. Well? We're waiting! ;)

Platinum

Apr 13 2006, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE (James McMurray)

If you're going to uphold your promise you'll first have to kill yourself.

Well?

We're waiting!

;)

Already did... be afraid ... I am coming................

BookWyrm View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 01:13 AM Post #18
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607	Wasn't there a spirit with questionable motives named "Tutor" or something in Threats or Threats 2?

Kremlin KOA View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 01:15 AM Post #19
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650	Tutor isn't a passion, just a vindictive free spirit

Dranem View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 01:21 AM Post #20
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975	Ok, I gotta ask this - not being a fan of Earthdawn... what is Dis?

K2Grey View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 01:54 AM Post #21
Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 8-March 06 Member No.: 8,344	If I've got my ED lore right, he's one of the Passions, which are the ED equivalent of totems, and which are still followed by some guys in Tir Tairngire. In ED there weren't any shamans of the Passions like it is in SR, rather, anyone could be a questor of a Passion and get certain powers for doing so. Dis was one of them.

Kremlin KOA View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 02:10 AM Post #22
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650	Passions are closer to gods than totems Dis is a passion who sacrificed his santy to save many mortals

Dranem View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 02:22 AM Post #23
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975	Ah, ok, think I got it... thanks.

Herald of Verjig...

Apr 14 2006, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE (Dranem)

what is Dis?

Bureaucracy.

hyzmarca View Member Profile	Apr 14 2006, 09:30 PM Post #25
Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456	Soulcrushing bureaucracy that sucks our your zest for life untill you wish that you were dead but are so apathetic don't you don't have enough passion left to actually try to kill youself.

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Apr 14 2006, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE (Earthdawn Players Compendium @ page 463)

Dis (Mad Passion)
Known as Erendis before the Scourge, this Passion once stood
for the ideals of Order, Bureaucracy and Work. Now, even with
her warped ideals, Dis is a popular Passion among those who
make their living from the Theran slave trade. Unlike the other
Passions, Dis takes her greatest pleasure in destroying people’s
passion for life, rather than inspiring it. She bleeds away her
worshippers’ zest for living and they in turn demoralize those
they subjugate. Eventually, the slaves and bureaucrats influenced
by this Mad Passion become empty husks, devoid of dreams and
feelings. Dis wants to extend this death of the soul throughout
the world.

In addition to the slavers, Dis also inspires bureaucrats who
create paperwork merely to look busy, rather than out of a need
for the records or fondness for their work. Few activities spread
boredom more effectively than generating useless records and
information, and Dis spends a great deal of her time encouraging
people to do just that.

Ideals: Confusion, Unnecessary Work, Complex Bureaucratic
Hierarchies, Slavery and Mastery

Typical Appearance: Dis manifests as a thin, sickly male or
female of any race, who seems to have been deprived of sunlight
and exercise for far too long.

Common Elements: Papers, papers and more papers, contracts,
tomes of ritual, slaves, chains

Powers: Dis can remove fervor from those around her and cause
confusion in their minds, make people obey her will, and teleport
instantaneously to any place she has visited before.

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