 Drone Response?, ...also missing from the BBB? |
  Sep 17 2006, 07:10 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083  |
On page 239, Drone Initiative is said to be calculated by Pilot Rating + Response.
What is the response of a given Drone? I looked up the drone stats in the back of the book, with the rest of the equipment...nothing. Looked in the Wireless chapter, and I also found nothing. I've been kind of trying to fake it, but some hard stats would be nice. It's a little odd to find information that important missing. |
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Sep 17 2006, 07:11 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
It has a Device Rating of 3.
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Sep 17 2006, 07:19 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
Thanks. Not sure how I missed that. I used slightly higher numbers, but then, it's not that hard to upgrade your drones, especially if you expect them to kill anything.
edit: I know how I missed it. It was in the Matrix section, rather than the drone section of the Wireless chapter. Thanks again. :D |
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Sep 18 2006, 07:39 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
If you check the Device Rating chart some Drones can have 3 or 4. The Drone Rigger sample PC has drones that have a 4 but it's not clear what defaulty qualifies a Drone as "Regular" or "Security" yet. I asked what a while back and couldn't get a clear answer in SR4 yet. Per SR3, Security things had armor or weapons so that rule probably holds in SR4 too. |
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Sep 18 2006, 02:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
I presumed it was the Response rating of the governing commlink.
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Sep 18 2006, 03:07 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
and what would happen if a drone was disconnected? |
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Sep 18 2006, 03:19 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,417 |
what do you mean by disconnected i.e. is it disconnected from you or just disconnected as in in standby mode
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Sep 18 2006, 04:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
If the drone is acting on its own programming (you're using AR and giving commands), then it makes no sense for it to be using the commlink's response. I also think, however, that the combat specific drones ought to come installed with a better response rating than 3, but I guess that's easily fixed.
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Sep 18 2006, 05:10 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 392 |
Something my group was looking for last week that I haven't been able to find is:
What does a drone roll when piloting itself? Or doing any actions at all? I need to know pools with and without autosofts. Thanks |
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Sep 18 2006, 05:10 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
According to p 215 Sample Devices table Security Vehicles and Security Devices are Device Rating 4.
I can easily consider the Steel Lynx to meet these requirements. |
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Sep 18 2006, 05:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 06 From: San Francisco Member No.: 8,275 |
I always thought that drone internal components were more or less the same as commlink internal components, they have Response, Signal, and Firewall normally, but they have System or Pilot. Which does the same thing with respect to running programs, like ECCM, Armor or other programs that are useful to drones and comms. So you can't disconnect a drone from its governing comm any more than you can separate the individual components of a commlink. |
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Sep 18 2006, 05:16 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
Each Drone can run autosofts so it can do special things like shoot weapons, evade attacks, and have a better chance at spotting targets. Like all other matrix enabled devices it needs to have Reponse/Signal/System/Firewall ratings. By default those are 3 (or 4) but can be upgraded. This also means your Drone (or anything else for that matter with a Device rating) can pack IC along with its autosofts to ward-off invading Personas or IC or run Encryption and other programs. It's really just a mobile Node just like anyone else with a commlink. |
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Sep 18 2006, 05:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
When someone isn't "jumped into it" and rigging it (the rigger uses they own skills then) the Drone has to rely on its own programming and attributes. One example might be, you give a Drone the command to, "Patrol this area and look for movement or humanoid life" it will do just that but will have to use its own attributes for Sensor Tests (Pilot+Sensor) to carry out its orders. Pilot is the default skill/attribute when no meaet-body is rigging it directly. |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 18-July 06 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 8,911 |
Brings up some confusion for me, IF the drone is made up of the Device Rating + Pilot (makes sense), and Pilot cannot be greater than the system, and the system cannot be greater than response. Does this mean that all drones with a Device Rating of 3 are limited to a Pilot Program Rating of 3?
Don't have the book in front of me to look it up right now, but I think thats how it works. So how would you get a Pilot 4-6 into any normal drone? |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 06 From: San Francisco Member No.: 8,275 |
With Drones, Pilot is basically synonymous with and replaces System. And I don't think there's a rule that says System/Pilot can't be greater than response. So you can just buy or steal a better Pilot program for your drone.
Of course you'd have to break into the approppriate corp to steal the Pilot program, but that's a different thread. |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:46 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
P 227 "Agents have a Pilot attribute just like drones (see Pilot Programs, p. 213) that determines just how “smart” the agent is. Pilot acts as the agent’s brain, interpreting orders. Agents have their own built-in Firewall attribute, equal to their Pilot rating. Agents use the Response attribute of whatever node they are run on; this means that the attributes of an agent operating independently may vary as it moves from node to node." P 213 "Pilot is used in place of System for vehicles, drones, and agents, but otherwise has the same function as System" "A System program is limited by the Response rating of the device it is on; a System run on a device with a lower Response rating functions at the Response rating instead." |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
Actually, it is explicitly stated that System cannot exceed Response. |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 06 From: San Francisco Member No.: 8,275 |
And there you have it.
edit : :oops: |
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Sep 18 2006, 06:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 770 |
Doesn't look like anyone answered this yet, so: Pilot+Manuever autosoft (if one is running),
where the autosoft is limited to the pilot rating max (since pilot = system, with the same program limiting factors as a commlink's system rating) |
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