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Tiralee
post Dec 13 2003, 03:32 AM
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This little bit of code had me addicted for 14 fragging hours!


Kudos to the guys who did this,
-Game Design, Art, and Programming – Shawn Overcash?
-Sound Effects – Aaron Smith

For really making my 14-hour shifts that much more unworkable, when I'd finally figured out some of the ground rules.

Sigh.

Linkage-

http://www.caro.net/dsi/decker/

And after you get the hang of things, make sure you've got some time free.

L.
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Cheese Emperor
post Dec 13 2003, 04:31 AM
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I haven't played that in ages...
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Cheese Emperor
post Dec 13 2003, 05:51 AM
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Does anyone remember how to crash systems. I know you have to make it to the CPU, but from there how?
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post Dec 13 2003, 08:37 AM
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Crash all gaurdian IC. Then you can do it.
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Tiralee
post Dec 14 2003, 02:11 AM
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Whoops! Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade my attack skill (2) somewhat, as I tend to do the "sneaky-sneaky" act (Hide, Decieve, Cloak 15)

Hell. I only upgraded to a low lifestyle only very recently.

Out of interest, I'm assuming the skill cap is 20?

Thanks for the tip though. (HAck, hack, hack.)
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post Dec 14 2003, 04:05 AM
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I always go for some Virus attack program for system crashing (it may take a few uses to crash the IC, but with 15 stealth you'll rarely get detected).

Am I the only one who never upgrades his lifestyle? I'd rather spend the money buying firmware. With the lowest lifestyle, level 7 chips do show up, which is plenty for the systems you encounter, and you can bump up your Stealth and Programming skills in the meantime. By the time you're ready to upgrade your lifestyle, you're set for the rest of the game.
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post Dec 14 2003, 05:35 AM
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I upgraded it after getting my deck, proggies and skillz up to snuff.
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post Dec 15 2003, 05:23 AM
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Damn thats hard. On top of that, I don't even know where the hell I'm supposed to go, to complete my missions...
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post Dec 15 2003, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE (Voorhees @ Dec 15 2003, 04:23 PM)
Damn thats hard. On top of that, I don't even know where the hell I'm supposed to go, to complete my missions...

Yep. We need a 'Decker for Dummies' article.
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post Dec 15 2003, 10:34 AM
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What is it you want to know? There are enough of us here that spend waaay to many hours on that game so we should probably be able to help you out.
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post Dec 15 2003, 12:06 PM
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That reminds me, Shawn gave me permission to host a copy of the game...
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lorg
post Dec 16 2003, 08:01 AM
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Now if we could only do something about that hideous homepage of his ... :/
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post Dec 16 2003, 02:50 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa!

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I'd rather spend the money buying firmware. With the lowest lifestyle, level 7 chips do show up,


You mean...people actually BUY chips? I thought - "Ok, L33t Mad Programming Sk1llz, fast burner, design assist, Hidi-Ho! And awaaaaaaaay!"


Am regretting the upgrade a little though. I mean, it's nice having some skill points again, but the sheer number of runs you have to do in a day, not to mention the paydata being a tenth of what the "Valuable Files" are, means that my Mad Prog Skillz are slowly being eroded by the high cost of living.

Figures.

:cyber: L

And I did infect a few ICE wandering about with a Level 15 virus (level, what, 5? Host?) and it did sweet FA. Of course, that's with my w33k Attack skill of 2.

Out of interest, I assume the program grade and the actual base skills as used roughly like they are in matrix? Say, attack 2 in conjunction with a Piercing Attack of 15? or is it a Vs test, where the l33t3r your system "stable" is, the harder it is to make even a single dent in your huge, bloated with paydata, deck?

Oh, And upgrading to a faster I/O is beyond a lifesaver.


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post Dec 16 2003, 05:36 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa!

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I'd rather spend the money buying firmware. With the lowest lifestyle, level 7 chips do show up,


You mean...people actually BUY chips? I thought - "Ok, L33t Mad Programming Sk1llz, fast burner, design assist, Hidi-Ho! And awaaaaaaaay!"

On the contrary, I always buy chips and never buy software. Programming software takes significantly less time that designing and burning a chip, and you're more likely to find programs and program source code than firmware code during a 'run'. I'm still in the bottom lifestyle, and I've got a suite of programs at 10 and every chip but Attack and Defense at 7.

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[...]my Mad Prog Skillz are slowly being eroded by the high cost of living.

Figures.

500 per month is a high cost of living? As long as you have some upgrades and the max reputation at the bottom lifestyle, you can make that in a single run.

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And I did infect a few ICE wandering about with a Level 15 virus (level, what, 5? Host?) and it did sweet FA. Of course, that's with my w33k Attack skill of 2.

As long as you've got some huge Stealth, you don't need a high Attack (for now). Just keep in mind that you'll likely have to infect something several times to kill it.

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Out of interest, I assume the program grade and the actual base skills as used roughly like they are in matrix? Say, attack 2 in conjunction with a Piercing Attack of 15? or is it a Vs test, where the l33t3r your system "stable" is, the harder it is to make even a single dent in your huge, bloated with paydata, deck?

From the Decker FAQ:

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Q: How do the skill level, program rating, and the firmware level influence the dice rolls?
A: Basically whenever you run a program, you are making a test of your skill versus the system and ICE that are the target. The formula is usually something like this:

    Target # = Base Target # + (2*System Rating) + Ice Rating
  - (Program Rating + Chip Rating + Skill)

The target number is the number you have to roll on a d20 (20 sided die) in order for the program to function. A 1 is always a failure, and a 20 is always a success. The base target number is usually 10, giving 50% chance of success. In effect, each level of program/skill/firmware gives +5% chance of success. However, each roll also has a success level which determines how effective the program was, which is measured by how high above the target number you rolled:
                +0..3 = 1
                +4..7 = 2
                +8..11 = 3
                +12..15 = 4
                +16..19 = 5
So, if the target number is a 10 (which is average), and you rolled a 15 (which is 5 over), you would have a success level of 2. For an attack program, this would mean 4 points of damage, because damage is success level squared. Some programs have target numbers below 10 because they are basically easier to use.


As you can see, your program rating, skill rating, and chip rating are all equally valued in tests. Having a Stealth skill of 8 and a Stealth chip of 7 is the same as a Stealth skill of 14 and a Stealth chip of 1.

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Oh, And upgrading to a faster I/O is beyond a lifesaver.

Since I tend to opt for Stealth above all else, I usually just find it a timesaver, not a lifesaver. Of course that doesn't mean I didn't special order the max rating High Speed Bandwidth as soon as I could afford it :D
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post Dec 16 2003, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (lorg)
What is it you want to know? There are enough of us here that spend waaay to many hours on that game so we should probably be able to help you out.

Everything. Just starting out daunts me, as I don't know what to do first. :oops:
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post Dec 16 2003, 11:03 PM
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Saving up to special order a rating 8 CPU. Then programming goes wild.

Get a biomonitor with the Auto-Dump utility! It'll freaking save your life so many times...

Right now, deactivating I/O in the Cross Applied Technologies...
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post Dec 30 2003, 11:23 AM
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OK so I spent a few hours durring the X-Mas holiday to start writing a 'decker for dummies'. Download, read and comment. Something missing? What to add? Something to cut and so on ...

decker for dummies (pdf, ~50kb)
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post Dec 30 2003, 10:27 PM
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And there was much rejoicing. Thanks lorg. :D
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post Dec 30 2003, 10:37 PM
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You guys suck. I saw this thread a week or so back and I've been playing this game non-stop. Oh, and just so you know, skills don't cap at 20 (my current Stealth, Programming, and Design are all 25).
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post Dec 31 2003, 12:53 AM
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lorg, Thankyou for writing DfD. It helped clearify alot of things for me. Yes, I am a matrix dummy, but less of one now, slightly.

1 thing in there that I didn't find. How the heck do I download or edit a file that is being protected by a worm?
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post Dec 31 2003, 02:15 AM
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Decrypt it using the appropriate utility.
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post Dec 31 2003, 02:24 AM
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Ok I programmed a virus 2 utility, that seems to work on tapeworms, eventually.

Now I just used my decrypt program, that is a much faster then virus. Thanks for the tip.
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post Jan 2 2004, 05:50 PM
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hmm, im capped as matrix god, i have the top lifestyle, i have software and hardware about 10 higher then any host i encounter, any job is doable, i have no life :silly:

its atleast 2-3 ago that i walked into this game. at first i had a bad habbit of burning out but after some trial and error i got to what im describing above :)
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post Jan 5 2004, 10:00 PM
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I hope that they do an level editor!
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post Jan 5 2004, 10:25 PM
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Yeah, and it would also be nice to see hosts that are higher than 20. Maybe they could have some new tricks up their sleves too. I've got everything at 25 and a stealth of 30 now and there isn't much left for me to do. I walk all over level 20 hosts.
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