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 Jun 15 2010, 04:45 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042  |
The 6th World Almanac sounds amazing...too good to be true, even. Forty nations listed? I'd love to see it.
Attitude. That brings a tear to the eye to those of us old enough to remember Shadowbeat. War. Cry havoc. I admire SR4 for having the nerve to go in a direction the game has never explored before. Where do I put my money down? |
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Jun 15 2010, 06:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 6-March 10 From: San Fernando Valley, PCC Member No.: 18,250 |
QUOTE (Zen Shooter01) The 6th World Almanac sounds amazing...too good to be true, even. Forty nations listed? I'd love to see it. Attitude. That brings a tear to the eye to those of us old enough to remember Shadowbeat. War. Cry havoc. I admire SR4 for having the nerve to go in a direction the game has never explored before. Where do I put my money down? QFT! Grexul |
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Jun 15 2010, 06:20 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,656 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Attitude sounds incredibly useful. I've never had a problem coming up with a role for my characters on the run; where I get into trouble is trying to imagine their day-to-day lives. Noir gets up in the morning after a successful job; the next run is a couple of weeks off, maybe as much as a month. What does he do in the meantime? Obviously he trains to keep himself sharp, but he's no obsessive-compulsive Batman. Where do runners go to blow off steam?
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Jun 15 2010, 09:49 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
I've been getting the impression that War is a Campaign/metaplot book rather than a list of mechanics for heavy combat and military superweapons.
Maybe this is inaccurate though.. |
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Jun 15 2010, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 26-January 10 Member No.: 18,081 |
It sounds like both to me. Win/win.
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Jun 15 2010, 09:57 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
So this face-&boobjob gone horribly wrong is the cover of Attitude?
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Jun 15 2010, 10:09 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (Zen Shooter01 @ Jun 15 2010, 05:45 PM)  The 6th World Almanac sounds amazing...too good to be true, even. Forty nations listed? I'd love to see it. It's not going to be what it could have been, unfortunately. QUOTE War. Cry havoc. I admire SR4 for having the nerve to go in a direction the game has never explored before. This is not Field of Fire. Or a campaign book. Hell, any metaplot involved is damn near circumstantial at this point. |
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Jun 15 2010, 10:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jun 15 2010, 02:20 PM) What does he do in the meantime? Obviously he trains to keep himself sharp, but he's no obsessive-compulsive Batman. Where do runners go to blow off steam? The same thing that professional mercenaries / Military personel do now. They go perform extreme activities, go hunting, drink, go to exotic locations, read books and some visit family. |
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Jun 15 2010, 10:36 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,090 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 15 2010, 11:09 PM) This is not Field of Fire. Or a campaign book. Hell, any metaplot involved is damn near circumstantial at this point. Well, what is it then? Another Arsenal with milspec gear, rules and a bit of "In AD 2072 war was beginning"? |
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Jun 15 2010, 10:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jun 15 2010, 05:36 PM) Well, what is it then? Another Arsenal with milspec gear, rules and a bit of "In AD 2072 war was beginning"? There will be plot information, including history of the Amazonia-Aztlan conflict, the events that precipitated the starting of the shooting, and activities of the war to date. There will also be a lot of information about Bogota. So you'll get plot, setting, gear, and rules. Jason H. |
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Jun 15 2010, 10:50 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jun 15 2010, 11:36 PM) Well, what is it then? Another Arsenal with milspec gear, rules and a bit of "In AD 2072 war was beginning"? It's basically a Bogota book with some miltech rules in the back. Nominally it's set during the A-A conflict, but it isn't a campaign and you don't have any sort of timeline of events like you had with Ghost Cartels, Emergence, System Failure, etc. - at least there wasn't one when I looking at the drafts. Metaplot wise - well, let me just say that things have not turned out as planned. As in there was a plan and now there is not a plan. So instead of an entire book covering military and mercenary work (a la Fields of Fire), or an entire book dedicated to Bogota (a la Seattle 2072), or an actual campaign (a la Ghost Cartels) you have...War. Which is about a third of FoF and the rest is Bogota. |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:23 AM
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Also posts as Dynamo Dave Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 30-May 10 Member No.: 18,641 |
I thought you were leaving forever and ever??? Whats wrong can't be honest even about being emo??? Or are you upset that the entire fanbase didnt fall to their knees begging you to stay because your so loved and adored??? I bet thats it.
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Jun 16 2010, 01:38 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (General Pax @ Jun 16 2010, 02:23 AM) I thought you were leaving forever and ever??? Whats wrong can't be honest even about being emo??? Or are you upset that the entire fanbase didnt fall to their knees begging you to stay because your so loved and adored??? I bet thats it. If CGL keeps the license and Jason stays as developer, I'm done with the game. Which you would know if you read my original post. The reason is because he's pushing through books like War!, and because of the absolute shit plotline and writing that goes with it - because Jason doesn't comprehend SR, and Randall doesn't give three shits about SR, so he'll let Jason do it. |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:43 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 16 2010, 09:38 AM) If CGL keeps the license and Jason stays as developer, I'm done with the game. Which you would know if you read my original post. The reason is because he's pushing through books like War!, and because of the absolute shit plotline and writing that goes with it - because Jason doesn't comprehend SR, and Randall doesn't give three shits about SR, so he'll let Jason do it. This smells like... Shadowland shit. Makes me nostalgic. Real personalities, real conflict, all emo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:45 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
QUOTE (General Pax @ Jun 15 2010, 06:23 PM) I thought you were leaving forever and ever??? Whats wrong can't be honest even about being emo??? Or are you upset that the entire fanbase didnt fall to their knees begging you to stay because your so loved and adored??? I bet thats it. Reported. |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:45 AM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Yep, it's the bad old days, all right....
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Jun 16 2010, 01:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 15 2010, 03:09 PM) It's not going to be what it could have been, unfortunately. What was it going to have been? |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:57 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Jun 16 2010, 09:45 AM) Yep, it's the bad old days, all right.... And that is what's so great about it! OK, it's great for the guys watching the show... |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:58 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 15 2010, 08:43 PM) This smells like... Shadowland shit. Makes me nostalgic. Real personalities, real conflict, all emo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I'm always nostalgic for Shadowland. It's too bad Dave is off quietly building Deus out of web code. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:58 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The original concept - and this is going back a ways - was a sort of CIA factbook for the Sixth World. One entry for every country (or in the case of collections of microstates, one entry for the whole kaboodle). Also supposed to be a coffee table book, a sort of intro to SR to bring new players up to speed - draw them in with the pretty maps and flags, hook 'em with the backstory, something like that. Forty countries...isn't quite what we hoped for. Like, say, Greece. That's not Jason's fault. It's another project he inherited. It just...could have been bigger, more comprehensive.
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Jun 16 2010, 02:04 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
QUOTE (General Pax @ Jun 15 2010, 08:23 PM) I thought you were leaving forever and ever??? Whats wrong can't be honest even about being emo??? Or are you upset that the entire fanbase didnt fall to their knees begging you to stay because your so loved and adored??? I bet thats it. Thanks to everyone who reported this. We have taken the appropriate action. |
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Jun 16 2010, 03:18 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 21-February 08 Member No.: 15,696 |
QUOTE The original concept - and this is going back a ways - was a sort of CIA factbook for the Sixth World. One entry for every country (or in the case of collections of microstates, one entry for the whole kaboodle). Also supposed to be a coffee table book, a sort of intro to SR to bring new players up to speed - draw them in with the pretty maps and flags, hook 'em with the backstory, something like that. Forty countries...isn't quite what we hoped for. Like, say, Greece. That's not Jason's fault. It's another project he inherited. It just...could have been bigger, more comprehensive. Isn't this what the Sixth World Almanac is? |
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Jun 16 2010, 03:24 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Hah! No. What did I just tell you about there only being 40 countries? That's like about a fourth of the actual number of countries in the Sixth World. It doesn't even cover the ones that the fans really want because we've never covered them in any detail, like Greece and the Ukraine. Fuck me, that's a riot. Don't even get me started on the timeline section, Jesus. Hah.
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Jun 16 2010, 03:46 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 3-April 10 Member No.: 18,407 |
Do you know if Korea is covered?
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Jun 16 2010, 03:51 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I probably shouldn't go into great and loving detail about the book. If I start talking about Tassin and Helfers, I'm going to get mad. So ask Jason. Or wait for the inevitable preview with the table of contents.
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