 Whats a Decker? |
  May 16 2012, 01:10 AM
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ive tried looking it up but i cant find it anywhere
so, seriusly what's a decker? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif) |
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May 16 2012, 01:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 681 Joined: 23-March 10 From: Japan Member No.: 18,343 |
Decker is a Hacker from earlier editions. They are the Matrix specialists of the game.
-D |
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May 16 2012, 02:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968 |
The term comes from the piece of gear they carried back then - the cyberdeck - for hacking matrix systems.
Basically, the keyboard in the hand of this guy here. |
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May 16 2012, 02:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
Now I feel old.
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May 16 2012, 02:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Metroplex Member No.: 217 |
Try this:
http://dystopia.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberpunk_Glossary The term predates Shadowrun actually and is one of the things they borrowed from Cyberpunk literature. |
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May 16 2012, 03:36 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Bull's gonna see this, and it's gonna kill him.
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May 16 2012, 04:23 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
You kidding? Damn near killed ME!
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May 16 2012, 04:27 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
*cries*
I fraggin' hate SR4 for this alone. |
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May 16 2012, 04:59 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,657 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
I have to admit, I would be perfectly fine having deckers rather than hackers, and doing away with technomancers.
I wonder what it would take to make the Matrix wired again... |
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May 16 2012, 05:13 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 16 2012, 06:59 AM)  I have to admit, I would be perfectly fine having deckers rather than hackers, and doing away with technomancers. I wonder what it would take to make the Matrix wired again... Crash 3.0 and some heavy Technobabble. |
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May 16 2012, 05:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: 1-December 08 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 16,646 |
QUOTE (Bull @ May 15 2012, 09:27 PM) *cries* I fraggin' hate SR4 for this alone. QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 15 2012, 09:59 PM) I have to admit, I would be perfectly fine having deckers rather than hackers, and doing away with technomancers. I wonder what it would take to make the Matrix wired again... I agree that they could have continued to them Cyberdecks instead of Commlinks, and could have still called them Deckers. I even get that plenty of people don't like Technomancers and their Otaku predecessors. What I don't understand is why, given the wireless world in which we now live in, taking Shadowrun back to a wired matrix would be preferred. |
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May 16 2012, 06:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 30-July 09 Member No.: 17,450 |
I'm pretty sure this is exactly why they're coming out with the Shadowrun 2050 book.
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May 16 2012, 06:28 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Bull @ May 15 2012, 11:27 PM) *cries* There's a lot of universe issues with it, indeed.I fraggin' hate SR4 for this alone. I miss the old slang. It feels like language never evolved in some ways, which is completely false for English. Think about how people talk today versus 1912! |
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May 16 2012, 06:35 AM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 16 2012, 02:59 PM) I have to admit, I would be perfectly fine having deckers rather than hackers, and doing away with technomancers. I wonder what it would take to make the Matrix wired again... People giving up on soy-processors and using microwaves again? |
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May 16 2012, 06:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 16 2012, 05:59 AM) I have to admit, I would be perfectly fine having deckers rather than hackers, and doing away with technomancers. I wonder what it would take to make the Matrix wired again... Simple, make Technomancers the only one who can manage the high traffic wireless network and regular Deckers require to log in with a cable - gives technomancers an edge and hackers can optimize to be damn good but require a jackpoint. |
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May 16 2012, 06:49 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
What is funny is that the top end deck of the time had a name related to keyboard synthesizers, not computers.
As for the name and concept, i could not care either way (tho i somewhat miss the build rules of previous edition, in part because i found myself writing a VB program to calculate the cost of a custom deck from specs). |
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May 16 2012, 10:27 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Caadium @ May 16 2012, 07:45 AM) I agree that they could have continued to them Cyberdecks instead of Commlinks, and could have still called them Deckers. I even get that plenty of people don't like Technomancers and their Otaku predecessors. What I don't understand is why, given the wireless world in which we now live in, taking Shadowrun back to a wired matrix would be preferred. you have never worked in IT/Tech-Support/Security right? <.< |
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May 16 2012, 10:51 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
You'll find a deck, as well as what used to be Shadowrun, all packed in this short video.
What I like about this video is that it both shows why/how we used to love Shadowrun and why we can't do the same thing today. |
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May 16 2012, 01:55 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
QUOTE (Bull @ May 15 2012, 11:27 PM) *cries* I fraggin' hate SR4 for this alone. Me too. Deckers are so 21st century. Hackers are so 20th.... And it is at this point I realize I have spent 20+ years playing shadowrun. I feel old now.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) |
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May 16 2012, 02:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 27-February 12 From: Nebraska, USA Member No.: 50,732 |
QUOTE (Caadium @ May 15 2012, 11:45 PM) I agree that they could have continued to them Cyberdecks instead of Commlinks, and could have still called them Deckers. I even get that plenty of people don't like Technomancers and their Otaku predecessors. What I don't understand is why, given the wireless world in which we now live in, taking Shadowrun back to a wired matrix would be preferred. Pure security standpoint. Besides that, in Sr4 Honestly IMO hackers/techomancers are gods. Unless you have EVERYTHING turned off, they can hack it, if you have a comlink, they can hack it, they can get in your PAN (I iz in ur PANz, ejecting ur clipz) and once their, well, your kinda screwed. |
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May 16 2012, 02:35 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 16 2012, 08:55 AM) Me too. Deckers are so 21st century. Hackers are so 20th.... I've spent 20+ Years WANTING to play Shadowrun.And it is at this point I realize I have spent 20+ years playing shadowrun. I feel old now.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) I ended up GMing instead just to scratch the itch. |
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May 16 2012, 04:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: 1-December 08 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 16,646 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 16 2012, 03:27 AM) you have never worked in IT/Tech-Support/Security right? <.< That's just it, actual security isn't what drives the technology. Wireless, the ability for users to log-in remotely, and many other aspects of IT all weaken security; yet that hasn't stopped those things from becoming more common to the end user, and similarly more 'requests' from bosses to implement regardless of security. My experience, a LOT of IT security work is trying to minimize the risk your company forces you to take. In the next 70 years, as IT people become even more of the corporate wageslaves to the mega-corps, I absolutely seeing things going more wireless and less wired. In Shadowrun for sure, the real world maybe. |
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May 16 2012, 04:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 16 2012, 10:35 AM) I've spent 20+ Years WANTING to play Shadowrun. I ended up GMing instead just to scratch the itch. The offer still stands. You make it over here, I'll run a game for you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) |
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 May 16 2012, 04:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE (middlewilliam @ May 15 2012, 09:10 PM) ive tried looking it up but i cant find it anywhere so, seriusly what's a decker? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif) I know this has been answered, but you need to read some Gibson. For flavour, if nothing else |
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May 16 2012, 04:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 664 Joined: 26-September 11 Member No.: 39,030 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 16 2012, 10:35 AM) I've spent 20+ Years WANTING to play Shadowrun. I ended up GMing instead just to scratch the itch. I feel your pain. Out of my last 9 games (in 3 different systems), I've only gotten to play in two of them. Not for lack of trying to push everyone from several different groups of friends to run games. I'm always amazed that they will spend 14 hours reading through every possible book to see if they can min-max a character for a few extra dice, but they don't have time to run a game. Oh well, I guess that's how it is everywhere. I'll make the same offer. If you happen to be in Atlanta, I'll run a game. |
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