Nov 11 2012, 06:45 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Some new Shadowrun fiction just went live, an e-novella named "Neat," which features one Jimmy Kincaid (a PI who has made appearances in the intro fic of Twilight Horizon and more recently Dirty Tricks).
You can find it on drivethru: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/1079...adowrun%3A-Neat Or battleshop: http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product...roducts_id=3066 And it should be available on Kindle and Nook before too long, if those float your boat. So, as someone who is in no way neutral and impartial about this project (the farthest thing from it, in fact, I've been violently biting my tongue for quite a while), you guys should totally go buy it. And tell your friends about it, and tell them to buy it. And buy extras to give to people as gifts! |
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Nov 11 2012, 11:55 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
And buy extras to give to people as gifts! And extras to keep around just in case something happens to the primary, I take it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:35 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
And extras to keep around just in case something happens to the primary, I take it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Well, that only makes sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 11 2012, 06:10 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
Bought it but can't get either format to open on good reader app.
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Nov 11 2012, 06:12 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
Had to reinstall iBooks. Seems to work in that.
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Nov 11 2012, 06:24 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Had to reinstall iBooks. Seems to work in that. Glad it's worked out for you -- I'm way outta the loop on the technical side of things (I had to download an epub reader, myself, to do my final proof). Hopefully you enjoy it now that you jumped through the hoops to read it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 12 2012, 12:18 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
Well, that only makes sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What I really need is for CanRay to weigh in if I should purchase this instead of another copy of Safehouses. Critias, I'd probably get it if it was printed or an audiobook, but I quite dislike reading e-books. |
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Nov 13 2012, 05:13 PM
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Tilting at Windmills ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
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Nov 13 2012, 06:12 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
That's your loss, Halinn. I'm about halfway through and am enjoying it thoroughly.... I like my books the way some people like their cyberpunk. Stuck using technology from decades ago. At some point, the day will probably come when I cave in and get an e-book reader, but it is not this day! This day we fight!! |
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Nov 13 2012, 06:32 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I like my books the way some people like their cyberpunk. Stuck using technology from decades ago. At some point, the day will probably come when I cave in and get an e-book reader, but it is not this day! This day we fight!! On the off chance you change your mind and decide to give the story a shot, there are several ways you can open e-book files (ePub, etc) on various web browsers. Amazon offers a download, even. So you could read it, hypothetically, just as easily as you browse forums and read the text there (no need to buy an actual e-reader as a separate device). If it's not your cup of tea, it's not your cup of tea. But I know I, personally, would love for more people to read the book, so if you decide you've got $3 burning a hole in your pocket and want to check it out, I'd be thrilled. So far reviews have been great and sales have me smiling, but the better it does, the better everyone's odds of getting more new fiction, and (by the way) of maybe getting some of this fiction printed up, someday. |
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Nov 13 2012, 06:48 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Wow. Is this ... a novel? A Shadowrun novel? How many pages does it have? Will there be more like it? Will there be print?
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Nov 13 2012, 07:33 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Wow. Is this ... a novel? A Shadowrun novel? Novella, actually. Trust me, I would've loved to have gone longer, but you write what the boss tells ya to write. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But yes, it's very much Shadowrun. Elves, ally spirits, headware commlinks, Knight Errant, Yakuza, Mafia, orks, all that good stuff! There's even a special guest star that makes an appearance, straight outta Jackpoint. QUOTE How many pages does it have? It's my understanding that it can change from e-book reader to e-book reader (depending on personal settings, etc), but on mine it clocks in at just about 100 pages. QUOTE Will there be more like it? That's outta my hands. Last I heard there are plans for more, yes, but I dunno the details. For what it's worth, I'm certainly lobbying to get to write more Kincaid stuff (and have a second one just about done in my head, I just need an excuse to sit down and type it up). QUOTE Will there be print? See above (no one knows yet). If I was to guess, I'd say that maybe if it sells well, and more of them get published, there's the possibility of them maybe being bundled together in dead-tree format someday (but that's, honestly and totally, just me guessing, nothing in any way official). |
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Nov 13 2012, 07:38 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 |
Well, for those that like it in DTF (dead tree format) you can buy the ePub, convert it to a PDF and take it to a Staples or whatever and print it out. It'll cost more, and you can pay more to get it bounded. But as long as you don't sell the thing it should be safe.
I did this for some old BattleCorps stories, hated their format. |
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Nov 13 2012, 10:15 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Why did you have to name him Kincaid? Every time I'm reading the name, I'm thinking of Dresden Files. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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Nov 13 2012, 10:56 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Why did you have to name him Kincaid? Every time I'm reading the name, I'm thinking of Dresden Files. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) My wife pointed that out to me, but not until after I'd submitted my draft (and got to liking the name), quite a long time ago. To be honest, all I know about the Dresden Files is from a few sessions of the RPG (we didn't get too far into it, and as far as I know never interacted with any 'canon' characters). Everyone I know shouts at me that I need to read up on the series, but I've just never gotten around to it. |
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Nov 13 2012, 11:21 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
My wife pointed that out to me, but not until after I'd submitted my draft (and got to liking the name), quite a long time ago. To be honest, all I know about the Dresden Files is from a few sessions of the RPG (we didn't get too far into it, and as far as I know never interacted with any 'canon' characters). Everyone I know shouts at me that I need to read up on the series, but I've just never gotten around to it. It's a good read. The first and second books aren't as well-written as the later ones, but they're still good, and a lot of important stuff later in the series is established in them. |
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Nov 14 2012, 09:30 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Go and red the books then! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/read.gif)
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Nov 14 2012, 02:03 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
It's a good read. The first and second books aren't as well-written as the later ones, but they're still good, and a lot of important stuff later in the series is established in them. The First and Second books are where the character is really established, though. Yes, they are all awesome books. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 18 2012, 09:24 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Why did you have to name him Kincaid? Every time I'm reading the name, I'm thinking of Dresden Files. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) So aside from Kincaid's name, have you got any thoughts on it? Hopefully you enjoyed the read, except for the name commonality? |
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Nov 19 2012, 01:38 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
Just finished it and really enjoyed it, thanks! Emminently digestable at that size reading it on my phone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 19 2012, 08:02 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Just finished it and really enjoyed it, thanks! Emminently digestable at that size reading it on my phone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Awesome, I'm glad you liked it! If you've got a sec, please feel free to drop a review/rating at whatever e-shop you got it from -- every little piece of feedback helps! |
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Nov 28 2012, 07:36 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
Thoroughly enjoyed it, thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This is SR as I've played and GMed for years now and reading it felt like coming home (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 1 2012, 12:44 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 20-March 02 From: Illinois Member No.: 2,421 |
Oh crap, just found out this was out today. Finally some new SR fiction. (I wish it was in .pdf format for those of us without e-readers, but we can make do)
Hopefully we'll still be getting some more -PRINT- novels somewhere down the line; but this is still fantastic! |
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Dec 1 2012, 03:40 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
EPUB can be read with Firefox using an add-on, so it's "Web Browser" capable if you finagle around a bit.
I'm slowly working my way through it. Hit me at a strange time in my head. ... Yes, stranger than usual. |
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Dec 1 2012, 07:49 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Oh crap, just found out this was out today. Finally some new SR fiction. (I wish it was in .pdf format for those of us without e-readers, but we can make do) Spread the word, every little bit helps! The more folks hear about it, the better. Make sure to tell your gamer buddies, holler on forums, all that fun stuff. It's appreciated! And I'm glad you enjoyed it (and you, too, Bannockburn). The feedback's just been fantastic so far, reviews have been great, and I've been thrilled with the whole thing. Hopefully it'll continue to do well, folks'll keep on diggin' it, all that good stuff. |
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Dec 2 2012, 02:19 AM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Very nice. I'm a sucker for Hard-Boiled Gumshoe stories myself, so this was right up my alley. 2XS was what got me really fired up for Shadowrun as a world, and I'm happy to see this feel (and the Paranormal PI) back in the game. Hope to see more of this. It was a good read, best I've had in Shadowrun fiction - new, that is - in quite some time.
I'll second Bannockburn here - it was like coming home. |
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Dec 3 2012, 08:46 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Awesome, Hermit. I can't think of a fan response much better than that, thanks man.
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Dec 10 2012, 12:06 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 875 Joined: 16-November 03 Member No.: 5,827 |
After reading it: Neat is indeed quite nice for a short story. I think I would like to read more about Jimmy Fucking Kincaid and his hot sidekick chick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Dec 26 2012, 10:14 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
E-gads!
I somehow managed to not spam you guys with this link, a few weeks ago (how?!). The Critical Glitch podcast guys had me as a special guest star on a recent interview, chatting about Neat (among other things, but mostly Neat and my gaming experiences). So if you've got some time to kill over the holidays, go check it out! Post comments, ask questions, do whatever. I seriously can't believe I never posted this. And -- as a reminder, as I just wrapped up a lengthy PM to someone -- please don't hesitate to ask me questions or share thoughts or whatever, if you've got the inclination to do so. I really dig the characters involved, I look forward to (hopefully) getting to write more Kincaid in the future, and I don't mind jabbering about him to anyone who's got questions in mind. |
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Dec 26 2012, 06:33 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 20-August 08 Member No.: 16,261 |
I'm about half way through the novella and I have to say its been very well worth the read. I love the characters and style, please please please write more.
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Apr 22 2013, 08:23 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
I realize that this is an older thread, but it seemed like the place to comment/give feedback (rather than creating a new one), so here goes.
I held off picking this up for months for a variety of reasons. I'm busy. I'm not a huge fan of ebooks. The recent Shadowrun sourcebooks haven't thrilled me. The (relatively) recent Shadowrun fiction really hasn't thrilled me. It's cheap but the value seemed suspect ($3...for ~67 pages; at that price per page, a 250 page novel would run me over $11). Etc., etc. All that to say that I wasn't optimistic about this when I finally did get around to picking it up. That being said, let me be clear: this is the best stand-alone Shadowrun fiction that I've seen in years. The Good:
At the end of the day, I vote with my wallet, so let me just put it this way: at this price point and quality, I would buy as many of these as the author cares to produce. So yeah...two thumbs up, five stars, A+, whatever metric you want to use, this pegs the needle at the high end. And now I'm going to pick on it a tiny bit, so please keep in mind that the previous paragraphs. The "Bad" (such as it is):
This is too long, so let me wrap it up with my own abrupt ending and one last endorsement. My opinion of what constitutes the high-water mark for Shadowrun fiction is the writing of the late Nigel Findley. I'm not willing to say that this story was better...but it's absolutely in the ballpark. |
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Apr 22 2013, 08:33 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
Thanks for putting some of my thoughts in such eloquent words (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I haven't had the time to write a proper review here or on Amazon, but some of this is very close to what I have thought while reading the novella. Had to chuckle a bit at your quip about the pricing, though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) A 250 page novel at 11$? Yes please, I'll take it! That would be cheaper than what I pay for much shorter books here in Germany, fixed book prices what they are. Personally, I see books or pdf releases in the SR line that run under 10$ as being in the impulse buy range. Meaning: I don't calculate how much a book would cost if it had so and so pages, but I rather think about "Can I afford it at the moment? Do I want it?" and then just buy it, if both answers are yes. That's micro-transaction territory, and it doesn't only work in MMOs. And in this particular case, the price was a steal. I actually re-read it last week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 22 2013, 09:23 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Awesome, Jester, and I appreciate the review (and the minor thread-bump). I'm glad you enjoyed it, and it's always nice to get specific feedback. As awesome as it is to get folks just giving me a thumbs up or a five-star review, any time folks can really let me know what they liked (or didn't like!) in particular, it's great to hear. Really, though, it's always just cool when someone's enjoyed a pet project of mine. Kincaid's fun to write, and if folks are having fun riding along with him for a few days, I'm happy.
While there's nothing written down any where, I very much do have a fairly solid statline in mind for Mr. Jimmy Kincaid, Paranormal Investigator. I mostly use it (and the earmarks I've got for Skip, and Trace, and Ariana) to keep myself in check, as much as anything else, though. I've got a rough idea of what these folks can and can't do, what they are and aren't good at, and -- always, always -- buzzing in the back of my head what the universe does and doesn't let happen. You'll never see Kincaid cast a teleport spell or Ariana tear apart a Great Dragon or something. There are things Kincaid'll do that might require a surprise round or an Edge expenditure (or both), or even just an above-average roll instead of a terrible one...but I always try to keep the SR physics and numbers in mind, at least a little bit. Part of what's kept me from setting anything in stone was that I knew SR5 was coming. The thing that's kept me from showing them anywhere, even with a "rough draft" disclaimer, though, is that I'd hoped to tell a few more stories, and have a few more in-universe reveals, before a couple of his nitty-gritty details get "spoiled" by me sharing stats instead of telling stories. We'll see what the next year or so brings, though. I'm all NDAed up so details are a no-no, but let's just say...I know who's writing some of the upcoming novels, and I know what some of 'em are gonna be about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 22 2013, 09:27 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
I'm all NDAed up so details are a no-no, but let's just say...I know who's writing some of the upcoming novels, and I know what some of 'em are gonna be about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Such a tease! GIEF! NAU! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 22 2013, 11:14 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Had to chuckle a bit at your quip about the pricing, though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) A 250 page novel at 11$? Yes please, I'll take it! That would be cheaper than what I pay for much shorter books here in Germany, fixed book prices what they are. Personally, I see books or pdf releases in the SR line that run under 10$ as being in the impulse buy range. That sounds awful, and you have my sympathy. My budget only allows for a little over a dollar a day to go towards books, and if I can't turn that into 12-15 books I feel like I'm losing. There are a few...precious few...books that I'm willing to treat myself with (and therefore pay something close to cover price), but for the most part the name of the game is library sales, used books stores, swap rings, etc. So in my head, Neat had to be at least as good as one known-to-be-good used book, or 2-3 lets-take-a-chance novels. I'm happy to say it was. QUOTE (Critias) Part of what's kept me from setting anything in stone was that I knew SR5 was coming. The thing that's kept me from showing them anywhere, even with a "rough draft" disclaimer, though, is that I'd hoped to tell a few more stories, and have a few more in-universe reveals, before a couple of his nitty-gritty details get "spoiled" by me sharing stats instead of telling stories. I can both appreciate and respect that. One way to possibly do both would be to release bios/blocks that are blatantly reader-subjective...something along the lines of "as of the story Neat, Jimmy Kincaid appears to have the following capabilities." You can then revise it accordingly for Neater, Neatest, Bride of Neat, and Neat: The Final Neatening. Or not, as I'm sure you have a life to live as well. Again, congratulations on a truly excellent novella. |
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Apr 22 2013, 11:25 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
That sounds awful, and you have my sympathy. My budget only allows for a little over a dollar a day to go towards books, and if I can't turn that into 12-15 books I feel like I'm losing. There are a few...precious few...books that I'm willing to treat myself with (and therefore pay something close to cover price), but for the most part the name of the game is library sales, used books stores, swap rings, etc. So in my head, Neat had to be at least as good as one known-to-be-good used book, or 2-3 lets-take-a-chance novels. I'm happy to say it was. That sounds awful in a different way to me (no offense meant) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) A full novel here runs at between 8 and 16€. Taking the Game of Thrones books as an example, each of these are split up into two books each in the translation. Besides me being unwilling to wait for the translation and the lack of quality in some of those, there was also a monetary reason, why I've decided to buy them in English (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Even an English hardback is just a bit more expensive than a single paperback here. I put aside funds for books as much as I'm able to, and lately I've delved into eBooks for that very reason. There is the missing haptic element and they don't smell as nice (or at all, for that matter), but at least they're way cheaper. But still, I go with dead trees as often as I can afford, although I've gotten increasingly selective about that. On the other hand, I would NEVER, EVER sell or lend a book anymore. So swap rings are right out for me, but I do appreciate a nice library sale. I do need a new copy of LotR at some point in the near future. My current one is older than me and ... it's not pretty. I guess, I'll splurge a bit there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sorry for the excursion, but it had to be done! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jun 26 2013, 03:00 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 30-March 13 From: Calgary, AMC Member No.: 85,966 |
I know I'm fairly late to this party, having only just read Neat, but I figured I would put my two cents in. Since I mentioned it to Crit while we were discussing something else, I'll copy/paste what I said in PM here:
QUOTE Most of all, everything just makes so much sense. I know that's kind of a weird way to compliment a piece of fiction, especially in a setting as fantastic and mysterious as Shadowrun, but all the elements of the story fitting together so seamlessly does wonders for immersion. Being able to walk through Kincaid's train of thought with him as he pieces the case together makes the difference between feeling like a member of an audience and feeling like a participant in the story. Overall, I agree with what's been said here already; the quality of the writing is excellent, both in terms of mechanics and narrative. The story focused on taking what it wanted to do (the tried-and-true noir detective formula with a Shadowrun twist) and doing it well, instead of getting caught up and tripping over its own complexities. The banter between the characters reads like a natural conversation. The setting feels realistic on a "classic Shadowrun" level, in the sense that I can easily imagine this plot being played as an adventure in a Shadowrun campaign. (As others have stated, I would love to play it myself!) I sort of agree with Jester's point about the ending feeling a little rushed, but I think that was more a function of the format than the narrative itself; there's only so much you can space things out in seventy-ish pages while maintaining that level of complexity, and if it was dumbed down too much it wouldn't have been as immersive a read. I also think it's worth noting that the signs pointing to the way the story was concluded are there, they were just small details that were easy to skim past if you weren't reading things too closely. (It was only after going through the story a second time that I picked up on some of them.) So, yeah. tl;dr: I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more of this in the future. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 22 2013, 01:39 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Singapore Member No.: 1,664 |
I know the thread is a bit old, but I just bought "Neat" last night for my Kindle and read it in one go.
That was an amazing Shadowrun story, just how I envision my SR. Very enjoyable! I want to know more about every character that appears in the story, something almost never happened with any published SR novel before (and I read all of them, apart from a few german ones) I want more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Oct 22 2013, 03:33 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I AM SUMMO--*cough, hack*. Ahem. Sorry. I am summoned!
Awesome to hear it, Cobalt. I'm always psyched when folks enjoy the book, and getting feedback like "I want to know more about every character" is especially cool, because I've had fun fleshing 'em out (in my head) since release, constantly killing time with backstories, and that sort of fun stuff (even though so much of it will never come into play or matter). |
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Oct 22 2013, 04:15 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Singapore Member No.: 1,664 |
Is there a chance that all this time killing with backstories will result in further stories that feature the cast of "Neat"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) My kindle is starving for some good SR food...
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Oct 22 2013, 05:05 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
This book is just how I like my whisky. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 03:56 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Is there a chance that all this time killing with backstories will result in further stories that feature the cast of "Neat"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) My kindle is starving for some good SR food... I am writing things. Other than that, NDA's keep me from giving many details about upcoming products, sorry. |
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Oct 23 2013, 04:08 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,113 Joined: 24-January 13 From: Here to Eternity Member No.: 70,521 |
I am writing things. Other than that, NDA's keep me from giving many details about upcoming products, sorry. This guy ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He teases us like a hooker with a brass band in her drawers ! |
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Oct 23 2013, 08:48 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
This guy ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He teases us like a hooker with a brass band in her drawers ! Hell, y'all know me. I'd be shouting every detail from the rooftops and releasing half-chapters as bait if I could, I just can't. Rassin' frassin' grown-up contracts an' stuff. |
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Oct 24 2013, 02:57 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 30-March 13 From: Calgary, AMC Member No.: 85,966 |
Since I was gushing about it to a friend the other day, the entire scene at Sunny Salvo's is one of my favourite things to read, ever.
Edit: Obligatory MOAR |
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Oct 24 2013, 06:44 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Singapore Member No.: 1,664 |
I am writing things. Other than that, NDA's keep me from giving many details about upcoming products, sorry. These pesky NDAs haunt me from my day job into the escape of my day job it seems....But good to know you writing things (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Oct 24 2013, 11:29 AM
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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
<Plug> Don't forget to check out the Enhanced Fiction line of stories! Another Rainy Night from Patrick Goodman! A follow-up sequel to be released "soon"! The Vladivostok Gauntlet! Buy yours today! </Plug>
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Oct 24 2013, 02:44 PM
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Tilting at Windmills ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Yes, Sail Away Sweet Sister has been turned in and is in the editorial process, as I understand it. Thanks for plugging Another Rainy Night, Olivier!
EDIT: Man, one of us needs to choose a different icon.... |
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Oct 24 2013, 05:03 PM
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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Haha I think I'm due, I'll pick a new icon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 24 2013, 06:28 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Haha I think I'm due, I'll pick a new icon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yikes... Very Distrubing Icon... what is it? |
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Oct 24 2013, 07:36 PM
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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
TCGshadowrunner->Tempest
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Oct 24 2013, 08:13 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
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Oct 24 2013, 09:43 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
This guy ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He teases us like a hooker with a brass band in her drawers ! Could be worse.He could still be teasing everyone AFTER the book has come out. Why does that sound familiar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Oct 25 2013, 12:28 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Could be worse. He could still be teasing everyone AFTER the book has come out. Why does that sound familiar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Not a lot of mirrors at your place I take it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Feb 2 2014, 06:31 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 6-May 10 From: Front Range Free Zone Member No.: 18,558 |
I finished up Neat last week. It was a pretty fun read.
Kincaid is a bit of a narcissist. Reminds me of someone in their middle age reminiscing about how great they use to be in sports in college or something, up until that fateful accident that shattered their dreams of going pro, when in truth they never had a chance. I like to think that he's actually not that great, just that he has a lot of edge and wins through a lot of luck. Like that maybe he didn't actually lose all that much essence from his vampire attack, but that he uses that as an excuse to help explain why he doesn't perceive himself as the greatest mage of all time now. Like maybe Kincaid was magic 5, he has some ware, a head comm, cybereyes, and 3 data jacks, so that's something like 1 essense. Maybe the vampire attack took 1 essense. So that'd place him at magic 3 now. Which is pretty average. But I think Kincaid thought of himself as like magic 10 or something, up there with dragons and immortal elves, but in truth he was not even like at the top of the magic food chain in his prime. He is at least an initiate, but initiation doesn't raise magic, it just unlocks meta magics, and we know he at least knows one of those. Kincaid's narrations just makes the story feel really bias towards him. That's not a complaint, that's very much how people tell stories about themselves. So I like to think that some of the things he says are half truths to make himself look better than he really is. |
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Mar 26 2014, 11:37 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 20-March 02 From: Illinois Member No.: 2,421 |
Finally purchased this today (using the kindle for PC app to read it). With this and the Shadowrun Returns fiction... I'm really feeling the itch for wanting more Shadowrun fiction again. My book shelf hasn't made too many new friends, as of late!
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