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[tasti man LH]

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/1306...llets--Bandages

And yeah, it's dual-statted for SR4 and SR5...makes it stick out from Assassin's Primer and Coyotes, but w.e.

Review to come.

[Curator]

mehhh i want rules on how to become a fixer.

i'm sure there's rules for that anyway. but this is a cool supplemental if i could use it

[tasti man LH]

mehhh i want rules on how to become a fixer.

i'm sure there's rules for that anyway. but this is a cool supplemental if i could use it

Well, at the same time you gotta admit that a medic on a runner team is far more common then an assassin or a coyote, yes?

[psychophipps]

Well, at the same time you gotta admit that a medic on a runner team is far more common then an assassin or a coyote, yes?

Funny that you should mention those two specific jobs because my group has one of each and zero medic... *shrugs*

[tasti man LH]

Funny that you should mention those two specific jobs because my group has one of each and zero medic... *shrugs*

...was this before or after AP and Coyote came out?

And by "medic" that also could be "anyone that has the First Aid skill and/or a medkit, or a mage with a Heal spell"

[DrZaius]

I've just scanned it, but it definitely seems like it's worth $5.

In no particular order:

• New optional rules for using biotech in combat, making combat more deadly (That light pistol shot you took to the leg can still bleed out..)
• New qualities (if I don't buy off "Pregnancy" after 9 months, what happens?... I shudder to think)
• New drugs & toxins (haven't read these, but a dozen or so; seem like they could be cool)
• A nice little 1 page short-story up front (nice to have in a supplemental like this)
• Advanced Medkit rules (now they come with all sorts of discrete supplies, with added directions on how your character can use them)
• Description of Docwagon HRT teams and roles, similar to the Coyote book. Would have liked a little more here on dealing with extraterritoriality, but that's wishing for the stars in a $5 book.
• New spells, *adept powers*, gear, and DRONES! A supplemental book with drones!

One gripe: some of the tables are mislabeled. C'mon guys, please, please read these damn things before selling them.

pg 15: Diagnosis tests table labelled "Pregnancy Quality"
pg 20: Drug table labelled "Ondansetron", Toxins table labelled "Rocuronium"
pg 21: Pathogens table labelled "Cypher"

If you can get past the editing errors (and let's be frank; you're buying a shadowrun book so that's a priori) it's a nice little book that I'm very pleased to have spent 5 bucks on.

[FuelDrop]

Re: Aged NQ.

Realistically, only humans should be able to take the quality to be at 70 or above as the awakening only happened about 65 years ago as of SR5. Just saying.

[Method]

And written by Dumpshock's friendly neighborhood ripper doc, yours truly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smokin.gif)

Dr. Zaius: I apologize about the table headings. These are a great annoyance to me as well, since most of the other typo's I've picked up are very minor. Not sure how something like that makes it through layout, but then I am not very involved in the whole process. Hopefully they can upload a corrected version.

Anyway, hope you guys can find something useful in there. Feedback of any kind welcome.

[Method]

Realistically, only humans should be able to take the quality to be at 70 or above as the awakening only happened about 65 years ago as of SR5. Just saying.

Don't forget those spike babies! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[tasti man LH]

Re: Aged NQ.

Realistically, only humans should be able to take the quality to be at 70 or above as the awakening only happened about 65 years ago as of SR5. Just saying.

Yeah, the topic of the Aged quality has popped up on the official site.

Mostly centered around how it would work with the non-human metatypes. For instance, for it to work with elves and dwarves, they'd have to have been spike babies.

[Wakshaani]

Hah! I didn't even know that this one was in the pipeline. Kudos!

[DMiller]

After a good read through the crunch, I like it. We will probably start slowly adding some of the advanced medical rules into our games. We will take a little time adding it as our players are still getting really familiar with SR5, so once everyone is more comfortable, we’ll add in the advanced medicine stuff.

The one thing that really caught my eye was the Adept Power “Transmit Damage”. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
It’s expensive, but wow.

Overall I'd say good work. Sure there are typos, but what product is perfect? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Medicineman]

Don't forget those spike babies! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

which would need their own (pos or neg) Quality.
So If You can't play a spike Baby Elf how can you play a 100 Year old Elf ???

with an impossible Dance
Medicineman

[hermit]

Question: Upgrading medkits (pp 18-19)
The rules say you use Cybertechnology to upgrade the medkit. Is this as intended or a glitch? Because it doesn't seem very intuitive to use Cybertechnology, and not Medicine.

[Sendaz]

Question: Upgrading medkits (pp 18-19)
The rules say you use Cybertechnology to upgrade the medkit. Is this as intended or a glitch? Because it doesn't seem very intuitive to use Cybertechnology, and not Medicine.

Maybe between the upgraded software and different tools it is more akin to improving a cyberlimb than just the medical know how.

You are maybe setting it for a more delicate touch, finer control, more sensory feedback and such is the only thing I can guess.

which would need their own (pos or neg) Quality.
So If You can't play a spike Baby Elf how can you play a 100 Year old Elf ???

with an impossible Dance
Medicineman

Would a spike baby really need a quality of it's own though? It doesn't really confer anything to the party other than fluff for background.

This also strays into debate of just because they are older, and especially in the case of a elven spike baby, do they really know all that much more from the advanced time spent?

Some probably will, but some may just be coasting along.

The amount of bonus points for a human with aged is quite small given it is supposed to represent that advanced age, a 50 year gets all of 5 build points or 7 karma to go with the diminishing stats.

So a person who has had 30-35 years of life experience over a new kid (15-20 yr old) on the street still is only a few points different than said fresh face despite all those years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Not much in the way of honing skills, picking up anything all the way through those years, surviving, etc..

I realize they did this so we don't end up with SeniorRun™ with Tired Reflexes, Hip Lacing, Extendable Taser Canes, Memory Spells and Rigger Golfcarts, but you can see it is a bit odd looking at it.

In 2073, four retired mercenaries were wrongly committed by their families for messes they don't think they commited.

They promptly escaped from a maximum security retirement home to the the Miami Underground. Today still wanted by Social Services, they survive to this day as soldiers of (slow) fortune.

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them when their joints aren't acting up, maybe you can hire the Aged-Team."

[binarywraith]

If you can get past the editing errors (and let's be frank; you're buying a shadowrun book so that's a priori) it's a nice little book that I'm very pleased to have spent 5 bucks on.

How fucking sad is it that this is the accepted state of things with this product line?

[Stahlseele]

@Sendaz:
Retired
Extremely
Dangerous

Or maybe even the Expendables.

[Sendaz]

@Sendaz:
Retired
Extremely
Dangerous

Or maybe even the Expendables.

Saw RED and RED 2, not gotten around to seeing the Expendables but yeah... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What was the phrase ... Age and Meaness beats Youth and Enthusiasm anytime?

[Stahlseele]

Age and cunning in the original i think.

[KarmaInferno]

Saw RED and RED 2, not gotten around to seeing the Expendables but yeah... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Prepare for a Testosterone Explosion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Did anyone see if there is the "cannot be used in Missions" text at the very beginning of the book? Usually in the Jackpoint splash page in the bottom corner fine print.

Because if there is I will be hugely dissapointed. The Aged quality is just about custom made for Old Man Jones.



-k

[DrZaius]

How fucking sad is it that this is the accepted state of things with this product line?

I'm not happy about it. But complaining about it feels like tilting and windmills at this point. They've had years to get this shit straight and haven't, so I consider it a cost of doing business when dealing with these products. Outside of annoying my personal feelings about clean editing, it's not actually that big of a deal. Does it change the rules at all? Does it significantly impact my enjoyment of the material? Not really. People make a big deal out of it (and frankly, it should be better) but in practice it has very little effect on whether or not the product in question is worthwhile.

-DrZ

[Larsine]

If you don't want your PDF watermarked you can also get this at http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product...roducts_id=3322

[Sendaz]

Prepare for a Testosterone Explosion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

yeah with all those big names I am not sure to expect unending boom boom or just continual cockfights. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
Still, given that Stallone and Arnie have always been able to poke fun at the other in their movies, having them in the same pic should be interesting just to see what little jibes they slip in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Did anyone see if there is the "cannot be used in Missions" text at the very beginning of the book? Usually in the Jackpoint splash page in the bottom corner fine print.

Because if there is I will be hugely dissapointed. The Aged quality is just about custom made for Old Man Jones.



-k

Sorry KI, It has this to say in the corner you asked about :They will not be used in official products, Missions, or allowed in tournament play.

Guess you will have to settle for well-seasoned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Stahlseele]

I am not sure to expect unending boom boom or just continual cockfights

why chose?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

How fucking sad is it that this is the accepted state of things with this product line?

Indeed... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)