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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 ![]() |
So, in terms of the individual themselves, who's the most dangerous NPC that there are stats for in a SR book?
I'm thinking specifically about metahumans - no dragons or immortals, just "regular guys". Also, I don't mean in terms of how much power they have under their command (e.g. don't say Damien Knight or anything!). Nor am I talking about the most kick-hoop conjurer who can whistle up an army of force 12 spirits to beat you to death, or a hardcore rigger and his army of drones custom-made 10 million nuyen drones or anything like that. Just who, according to their official stats on paper, when fully tooled up, is the most powerful NPC in a stand up fight? Who, by himself, would you pose the greatest challenge to a well-rounded group of top-flight shadowrunners if they encountered him in combat? |
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 ![]() |
I'm gonna go with Fastjack.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
...yes, because fastjack is known for his ability to kill people by shooting and stabbing them. or was he known for never actually being encountered in the meat? i always get those mixed up!
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 ![]() |
Okay okay, if half a dozen decent deckers met FastJack in the Matrix he'd no doubt still give them a kicking. How about in the real world though, who'd be the ultimate challenge there?
FastJack is pretty damn good though, I'll give you that! |
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 ![]() |
For deckers, cybercombat is a straight up fight. If it has to be in the meat, then I'd say Torgo could whoop a few.
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
I've always been fond of Teachdaire, the elite elven assassin from Tir Na Og. |
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I especially am found of all of his canon inconsistencies.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 ![]() |
*sigh* The deadliest one with stats, eh? Metahuman only, no immortals or dragons.
Straight-up hard-hooped fragger, eh? I suppose we should do this by edition (note: this is best overall, not "he who could conceivably take a panzer round"): 1st) Blackwing from Bottled Demon Main Reason: All-around bad-ass cybered combat specialist. Runner Up: Dusk from Total Eclipse Main Reason: All-around bad-ass cybered combat specialist. Notes: This was a hard one. Naturally, I left out vampires and spirits to make this a bit fair, and physads in first edition tended to be horrible. The differences between Dusk and Blackwing are more thematic then practical; in a knock-down drag-out, the winner is the one who moves first and keeps their distance...which would be Blackwing. 2nd) Cyberzombie archetype from Cybertechnology Main Reason: Great skills and hideous amounts of cyberware. Runner Up: Akihito "Tuesday" Takemura from Prime Runners Main Reason: Armed Combat 8 (Katana 12) skill. Notes: Again, an issue of brawn over brain. Takemura has a better /skill/, but the cyberzombie has better general skills over all AND more and better cyber. Now, life expectancy wise, the elf's going to outlive the cyberzombie...but not if the cyberzombie decides to draw first. 3rd) Sergeant (Unit Leader) of Tir Tairngire Ghost team in "Corporate Punishment" Main Reason: All-around bad-ass physad combat specialist. Runner Up: Lt. Berkeley, Firewatch Team Commander in "Wake of the Comet" Main Reason: All-around bad-ass cybered combat specialist. Note: Both of these guys are professional combat artists, specializing in taking peopel apart any way they have to. Their gear is top-notch, and their skills are way above par. Sergeant pulls ahead with a bit better gear and magic, which Lt. Berkeley just can't quite match. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 24-August 04 Member No.: 6,592 ![]() |
what's 'canon' mean?
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Canon = According to published material.
See also |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 313 ![]() |
Ryan "uber twink" Mercuary
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 ![]() |
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I might just be, but IIRC Fastjack is a cyberzombie (a la the intro short to Cybertechnology). I'll update if I can CoD, but my copy is currently missing amongst several trash bags worth of my belongings my ex roomates decided to try and throw out... |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
you're thinking of someone else, whose name i cannot recall. Fastjack is the uberdecker supreme in SR; you can check him out in Target: Matrix.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 ![]() |
Hatchetman became a cyberzombie on the dime of some unnamed corp. No one knows what happened to him after he left the clinic, but by now one of the big nasties cyberzombies get hit with probably took him down.
Fastjack is a decker who is (I think) 74 years old. One of the sourcebooks gives enough info to figure out the year he was born, but I can't remember which. Anyway, he is the best decker in the world and I think the most dangerous person in the Shadowrun world. Sure, he's only good in the Matrix. Sure, he never meets in the meat. But think of what the man could do. He talks about hacking into then-Fuchi systems nonchalantly as if he had just done a search on Google. If he wanted to, he could forge execution orders on anyone he wanted, he's made probably dozens of good contacts and hundreds of people probably owe him favors, plus there's the little fact that he has the reputation to call almost anyone in the shadows to help him just on his rep. Remember, in the Shadowrun world, information is supposed to be the ultimate source of power. If it's not Fastjack, it'd be one of the NEXUS SysOps. The Abstruse One |
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
It's possible that he's a supreme decker and a cyberzombie, isn't it? :)
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
only if he is also an vampiric otaku dragon physmage.
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
with an AVS slivergun ally
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Traumatizing players since 1992 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 ![]() |
You gotta spell it SILvergun SILVER!! :D
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
does it kill shapeshifters then :silly:
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Only if you use it like a club...
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
and albino - don't forget that! :D |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 ![]() |
Oh C'mon, don't be so over the top. He's a DRAKE not a Dragon. :spin:
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
try and find some stats on the guy :) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Vigo (Spanish Kingdom) Member No.: 1,446 ![]() |
I've always thought that the Smiling Bandit would kick Fastjack's hoop. I know I'm probably wrong, but I've always loved the Smiling Bandit over Fastie. :D
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 ![]() |
Well, the most powerful human in shadowrun would have to DK. as I recall he was thought of as a peer by a great dragon. He owns what the third largest Mega corporation.(I know SK is number one..I am just not sure what place Ares has.) Also one my friends think he is fastjack.
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