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Badmoodguy88
post Oct 5 2010, 03:06 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39386045/ns/te...ch_and_gadgets/
kind of cool
I guess in Shdowrun 2070 it would be military armor with strength enhancements.
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Karoline
post Nov 12 2010, 02:16 PM
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Yeah, not sure. The problem with nuclear power sources is that there are a whole bunch of problems. As I said, there is a physical minimum size just for the material itself. Then you have to remember that a nuclear reaction doesn't simply generate usable energy, it generates tons and tons and tons of heat, which is used to boil water which turns turbines which generates usable energy.

So, a few of the problems are:
Radiation shielding to stop the reactor killing a person. (Actually, wouldn't a lead lining solve this?)
Minimum size of the reacting material.
Have to convert heat to usable energy.
Have to prevent massive heat from escaping and melting whatever it is near.
Means of preventing catastrophic failure.
I'm sure some others that I'm not thinking of.

Now, there is alot of research going into sustainable cold fusion reactions, which would solve a few of the problems, perhaps most of them. It would still likely have to be 50+ kilos even at its best because it would need lead in its construction to prevent radiation. Portable, depending on your definition of portable. Unlikely to ever have pocket sized or anything like that, but could potentially stick it on an exosuit.

Oh, could also be powered by wireless energy transmission via magnetic resonance, an interesting new technology that does just what it says on the box, transmits energy wirelessly. Great part is that they actually already have it working. Not sure how well it handles transfer over longer distances, but it could be a possibility to have a large generator near the front lines transferring power to suits in this way (with batteries in case the power is interrupted of course)
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- Badmoodguy88   Second-generation exoskeleton robotic suit   Oct 5 2010, 03:06 AM
- - Summerstorm   Hm... okay, that second version at least looks lik...   Oct 5 2010, 03:19 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   The current one probably does run out of power fas...   Oct 5 2010, 04:24 AM
- - hobgoblin   The one man missile loading example may be most in...   Oct 5 2010, 05:59 AM
- - Saint Sithney   SLC, hunh? Those LDS types sure do love some robo...   Oct 5 2010, 06:13 AM
- - Doc Chase   They do. This particular model is more Aliens tha...   Oct 5 2010, 01:10 PM
- - yoippari   I'm picturing this in maybe two generations as...   Oct 6 2010, 01:47 AM
- - Neraph   This one's been around for some time - I saw i...   Oct 6 2010, 06:08 AM
- - Yama King   Another RL news bit. More Drones.. wheeled auton...   Oct 6 2010, 01:35 PM
- - hobgoblin   nothing a good RPG can't deal with...   Oct 6 2010, 01:45 PM
- - hobgoblin   http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/...walk_...   Oct 8 2010, 05:22 AM
- - Neraph   'Bout time.   Oct 8 2010, 06:18 AM
- - Rayzorblades   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Oct 4 2010, 08:06 P...   Oct 17 2010, 08:17 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Rayzorblades @ Oct 17 2010, 03:17 ...   Oct 18 2010, 03:51 AM
|- - Rayzorblades   QUOTE (Neraph @ Oct 17 2010, 08:51 PM) II...   Oct 18 2010, 01:09 PM
- - Karoline   This reminds me, I've been seeing ads for some...   Oct 18 2010, 04:23 AM
- - KarmaInferno   BigDog? -k   Oct 18 2010, 04:29 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 17 2010, 11:29 ...   Oct 18 2010, 05:08 PM
- - Neraph   Big-Dog is fairly old-ish. Heck, they have some st...   Oct 19 2010, 12:18 AM
- - Karoline   Yeah, if it originated with steam power... scary. ...   Oct 19 2010, 12:47 AM
- - Smokeskin   Gasoline contains about 35 MJ per litre. 1 litre w...   Oct 19 2010, 11:29 AM
- - Rayzorblades   Including to carry the additional weight of the ba...   Oct 19 2010, 07:54 PM
- - Doc Chase   That was my concern. I would figure on this suit ...   Oct 19 2010, 08:17 PM
- - Rayzorblades   Another thing I'm wondering about the gasoline...   Oct 20 2010, 10:57 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Rayzorblades @ Oct 20 2010, 12:57 ...   Oct 20 2010, 01:38 PM
- - hobgoblin   While i can't back it up by numbers, it would ...   Oct 20 2010, 09:02 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 20 2010, 11:02 PM)...   Oct 21 2010, 04:51 PM
- - Mongoose   Efficiency is not the same as power density. You ...   Oct 21 2010, 01:05 AM
- - Doc Chase   Perhaps, but for the purposes of powered armor we ...   Oct 21 2010, 01:15 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Need to develop a micro fusion power plant. Becau...   Oct 21 2010, 04:22 PM
|- - TheScrivener   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 21 2010, 11:22 ...   Oct 21 2010, 08:27 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (TheScrivener @ Oct 21 2010, 04:27 ...   Oct 21 2010, 09:06 PM
- - Smokeskin   Nooo Dahrken, animals must be much better than tec...   Oct 21 2010, 06:07 PM
- - Rayzorblades   I read some math somewhere that said humans are on...   Oct 21 2010, 07:53 PM
|- - TheScrivener   QUOTE (Rayzorblades @ Oct 21 2010, 02:53 ...   Oct 21 2010, 08:30 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (TheScrivener @ Oct 21 2010, 04:30 ...   Oct 21 2010, 09:08 PM
- - Rayzorblades   I'm going to track it down.   Oct 21 2010, 09:39 PM
- - hobgoblin   i wonder how small one can make a thorium reactor....   Oct 21 2010, 10:33 PM
- - Rayzorblades   Has anyone considered that Ford nucleon tech I men...   Oct 21 2010, 10:46 PM
- - hobgoblin   Not by a long shot, as just as with the nuclear-po...   Oct 21 2010, 10:52 PM
|- - Rayzorblades   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 21 2010, 03:52 PM)...   Nov 12 2010, 12:03 PM
- - Rayzorblades   Here we go, human 7% efficiency figures. Glucose ...   Oct 22 2010, 05:15 PM
- - KarmaInferno   But 44% and 65% of what? What is the scale? That...   Oct 22 2010, 05:17 PM
- - Rayzorblades   My guess is only 44% of the glucose gets turned in...   Oct 22 2010, 05:41 PM
- - Dahrken   IMHO 44% / 65% of the chemical energy stored in th...   Oct 22 2010, 06:03 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Oct 22 2010, 02:03 PM) I...   Oct 23 2010, 03:22 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 23 2010, 05:22 PM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 05:27 PM
- - hobgoblin   Seems it is the friction part that is the real los...   Oct 23 2010, 12:35 AM
- - hobgoblin   http://www.plasticpals.com/?p=25440 looks more gh...   Oct 25 2010, 04:32 PM
|- - TheScrivener   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 25 2010, 11:32 AM)...   Oct 25 2010, 06:57 PM
- - Dahrken   Also those 7% are starting from pure glucose. If w...   Oct 26 2010, 05:26 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Oct 26 2010, 07:26 AM) A...   Oct 26 2010, 08:54 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 26 2010, 10:54 PM)...   Oct 27 2010, 11:47 AM
- - Shrike30   Part of the problem is also that you're not ta...   Oct 26 2010, 05:53 AM
- - hobgoblin   while true, said gas or diesel has to be refined f...   Oct 27 2010, 04:59 PM
- - Dahrken   But the refining is not done in the vehicule using...   Oct 27 2010, 05:12 PM
- - Karoline   "Every minute in the field spent looking for ...   Oct 28 2010, 12:40 AM
- - Shrike30   I'm not entirely sure how much use this side a...   Oct 29 2010, 07:34 PM
- - Doc Chase   It's a stretch, I admit. I'm concerned ab...   Oct 29 2010, 08:19 PM
- - Shrike30   Sure. At that point it's just a numbers game ...   Oct 30 2010, 07:27 PM
- - hobgoblin   perhaps, in the sense of routing the radiation awa...   Nov 12 2010, 12:43 PM
- - Karoline   By 'portable reactor tech' I presume you m...   Nov 12 2010, 12:58 PM
|- - Rayzorblades   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 12 2010, 05:58 AM) ...   Nov 12 2010, 01:57 PM
- - Karoline   Yeah, not sure. The problem with nuclear power so...   Nov 12 2010, 02:16 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 12 2010, 08:16 AM) ...   Nov 12 2010, 02:45 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Neraph @ Nov 12 2010, 09:45 AM) Ye...   Nov 12 2010, 02:53 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 12 2010, 03:16 PM) ...   Nov 12 2010, 03:57 PM
- - Neraph   I'm worried about the armor they'll be put...   Nov 12 2010, 02:59 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Neraph @ Nov 12 2010, 09:59 AM) I...   Nov 12 2010, 09:28 PM
- - TheScrivener   Another possible power source would be RTGs, basic...   Nov 12 2010, 03:02 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (TheScrivener @ Nov 12 2010, 05:02 ...   Nov 12 2010, 03:35 PM
- - TeslaNick   You could use a tiny nuclear-thermal lightbulb. It...   Nov 12 2010, 07:35 PM
|- - Shrike30   QUOTE (TeslaNick @ Nov 12 2010, 11:35 AM)...   Nov 15 2010, 04:53 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Nov 14 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Nov 15 2010, 04:58 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Nov 15 2010, 06:53 AM) ...   Nov 15 2010, 08:04 AM
|- - TeslaNick   QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Nov 15 2010, 04:53 AM) ...   Nov 15 2010, 06:22 PM
- - hobgoblin   Who needs armor when one have a laser pod that can...   Nov 15 2010, 07:56 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 15 2010, 02:56 AM)...   Nov 15 2010, 12:13 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 15 2010, 01:13 PM) ...   Nov 15 2010, 02:06 PM
- - Shrike30   How long of a startup time are we worried about he...   Nov 16 2010, 11:06 PM
- - Smokeskin   Helicopters and tanks use gas turbines. I'd sa...   Nov 17 2010, 09:15 AM
- - TeslaNick   That looks like it could be an option. You might ...   Nov 17 2010, 06:12 PM


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