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yesferatu
post Jan 12 2012, 02:14 PM
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I'd like to be a human. It's in Seattle.
I'd like to be avoid being useless in the meat.
I haven't decided if I want to go full vehicle rigger or not.

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post Jan 12 2012, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 12 2012, 10:40 PM) *
Because passing out and then riding around snoring on a bike is (a) really lame (b) asynergistic with being good at meatspace combat.

I can't speak to its lameness - you turn into a motorcycle - but can't combat be handled fairly well from VR, with vehicle-mounted weapons? A character with full VR capabilities has the option of pulling out and driving manually, while a character without full VR capabilities can only drive manually. Is the improvement in ability not worth the cost of entry, do you think?

QUOTE (Rystefn @ Jan 12 2012, 10:40 PM) *
I don't see go-gangers as full VR riggers. I couldn't say why (aside from the previously mentioned motorcycle rigging issues) except that it seems to clash with the style. In my mind, a go-ganger is basically like a regular ganger, only with more emphasis on Reaction and Agility and less on Strength and Body.

If I spent a lot of my time on a motorcycle, driving hard and fast, and someone gave me the ability to become that motorcycle, to feel what it feels, to turn into it, not virtually but for real, and in some cases better than real, I'd take it. But that's as much a product of my bias as your perception of style is to yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 13 2012, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (Ryu @ Jan 12 2012, 02:12 PM) *
Have a courier-style go-ganger with augmentations. Focus on Reaction, Agility and Intuition. Loosing the Control Rig is sad, but an effective Reaction 9 would compensate... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 12 2012, 02:59 PM) *
I can't speak to its lameness - you turn into a motorcycle - but can't combat be handled fairly well from VR, with vehicle-mounted weapons?


Clearly the solution is to combine these ideas, and be a motorbiking ganger cyborg who literally is the bike.

You see, he had REALLY good insurance.

(restricted gear: Bike, mod it with a cyborg adaptation at avail18/+250,000nuyen, for the price listed in arsenal, get an epic advanced lifestyle that you can bill your medical fees to, and spend about 12bp on a contact to handle the surgery - if your gm doesn't let you start with your ware installed, like every god damn samurai is able to. Note: A CCU isn't deltaware, but acquired as an accessory to a vehicle mod with price and availability in arsenal. And 20 hits on medicine to install, but whatever.)

Just pretend you're playing in a corny 80's/90's action movie, like Steel.
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- yesferatu   So I want to make a go-ganger.   Jan 12 2012, 02:14 PM
- - Medicineman   How about an adept Biker ? (blades, Knife Throwing...   Jan 12 2012, 03:46 PM
- - Seriously Mike   If you want to be a good driver in the meat, there...   Jan 12 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Ryu   Go-Ganger says Bikes to me. If your campain is mos...   Jan 12 2012, 06:52 PM
- - UmaroVI   Yeah, basically, what do you mean by "a go-ga...   Jan 12 2012, 07:46 PM
- - yesferatu   I like the idea of an agile - fast-moving crotch-r...   Jan 12 2012, 08:24 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 12 2012, 04:24 PM)...   Jan 12 2012, 09:20 PM
- - Inu   Motorcycles probably always get driven manually at...   Jan 12 2012, 09:03 PM
|- - Seriously Mike   QUOTE (Inu @ Jan 12 2012, 10:03 PM) Motor...   Jan 13 2012, 08:47 AM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Jan 13 2012, 09:4...   Jan 13 2012, 03:50 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Jan 13 2012, 01:4...   Jan 14 2012, 01:16 AM
- - Ryu   Have a courier-style go-ganger with augmentations....   Jan 12 2012, 09:12 PM
- - UmaroVI   I think you probably want to be an AR Command driv...   Jan 12 2012, 09:15 PM
- - yesferatu   Fair enough, but there should be a difference betw...   Jan 12 2012, 09:27 PM
- - 3278   Everyone seems to be steering far, far away from h...   Jan 12 2012, 09:29 PM
- - UmaroVI   Because passing out and then riding around snoring...   Jan 12 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Rystefn   I don't see go-gangers as full VR riggers. I c...   Jan 12 2012, 09:40 PM
- - 3278   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 12 2012, 10:40 PM) B...   Jan 12 2012, 09:59 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Ryu @ Jan 12 2012, 02:12 PM) Have ...   Jan 13 2012, 12:51 AM
|- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 13 2012, 01:51 AM) Cl...   Jan 13 2012, 01:22 AM
- - yesferatu   With VR, at a certain point it just becomes a remo...   Jan 12 2012, 10:09 PM
- - UmaroVI   "Cool" is subjective, but I think you...   Jan 12 2012, 10:13 PM
|- - Paul   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 12 2012, 05:13 PM) ....   Jan 12 2012, 10:23 PM
- - UmaroVI   Yes, and if someone wanted to play a guy who calle...   Jan 12 2012, 10:25 PM
- - Rystefn   Right... If you want to fight effectively on foot,...   Jan 12 2012, 10:49 PM
- - 3278   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 12 2012, 10:09 PM)...   Jan 13 2012, 01:09 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 12 2012, 06:09 PM) A lo...   Jan 13 2012, 01:27 AM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 13 2012, 01:27 AM) Th...   Jan 13 2012, 01:42 AM
- - Udoshi   With running the pilot autonomously, you're no...   Jan 13 2012, 01:49 AM
- - 3278   Oh, no! That wasn't what I meant at all. E...   Jan 13 2012, 02:20 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm still not clear on what the OP really want...   Jan 13 2012, 02:33 AM
- - Ryu   A starting point for the unrigged version: 750kar...   Jan 13 2012, 04:38 PM
- - yesferatu   Thanks guys, This is all good food for thought. T...   Jan 13 2012, 05:31 PM
|- - Hida Tsuzua   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 13 2012, 06:31 PM)...   Jan 13 2012, 05:48 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 13 2012, 06:31 PM)...   Jan 18 2012, 08:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Of course you'd 'bother' with close co...   Jan 13 2012, 05:38 PM
- - yesferatu   But that only works on full-defense, right? Normal...   Jan 13 2012, 07:51 PM
|- - Hida Tsuzua   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 13 2012, 08:51 PM)...   Jan 13 2012, 07:59 PM
- - Critias   When in doubt, go-gangers in the Shadowrun canon h...   Jan 13 2012, 09:47 PM
|- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 13 2012, 10:47 PM) W...   Jan 13 2012, 10:42 PM
|- - Rystefn   QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Jan 13 2012, 11...   Jan 13 2012, 11:42 PM
|- - NiL_FisK_Urd   QUOTE (Rystefn @ Jan 14 2012, 12:42 AM) J...   Jan 14 2012, 02:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Half a vehicle, anyway.   Jan 14 2012, 01:25 AM
- - Seriously Mike   Now that's a real Slicycle!   Jan 14 2012, 02:49 PM
- - yesferatu   I had a quick follow up question... What cyberware...   Jan 16 2012, 08:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You'd want Hot Sim and the VCR, which are diff...   Jan 16 2012, 08:34 PM
- - UmaroVI   If you want to AR rig? You really don't need a...   Jan 17 2012, 07:20 AM
- - Xenefungus   I'd go with: Reflex Booster II Reaction Enha...   Jan 17 2012, 04:15 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jan 17 2012, 09:15 AM...   Jan 18 2012, 08:05 PM
|- - 3278   Let me please interject my plea that, instead of d...   Jan 18 2012, 08:12 PM
- - Critias   I don't think -- however well intentioned -- s...   Jan 18 2012, 08:13 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE 1 day luxury hotel lifestyle for the startin...   Jan 18 2012, 08:54 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 18 2012, 04:54 PM...   Jan 18 2012, 09:20 PM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 18 2012, 09:20 PM) I...   Jan 18 2012, 09:33 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 18 2012, 05:33 PM) I wa...   Jan 18 2012, 09:59 PM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 18 2012, 09:59 PM) Y...   Jan 18 2012, 11:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   My opinion is that Udoshi's tactics are… speci...   Jan 18 2012, 10:04 PM
- - UmaroVI   My opinion, and I'm not directing this at anyo...   Jan 18 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   As if there were something wrong with direct argui...   Jan 18 2012, 10:17 PM
- - yesferatu   I thought you guys were being helpful. How could I...   Jan 19 2012, 08:21 PM
|- - Ryu   Please tell us about your current vision for this ...   Jan 19 2012, 09:02 PM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 19 2012, 08:21 PM)...   Jan 19 2012, 09:09 PM
- - yesferatu   So...here's what I've got so far...*Keep i...   Jan 24 2012, 03:58 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Jan 23 2012, 08:58 PM)...   Jan 25 2012, 04:12 AM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 24 2012, 11:12 PM) Bo...   Jan 25 2012, 11:58 AM
- - UmaroVI   Synaptic Boosters and Reaction Enhancers do not st...   Jan 24 2012, 12:05 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   Or just use karmagen ^^   Jan 24 2012, 12:07 PM
- - yesferatu   Thanks, UmaroVI. So you'd go with an ork? I...   Jan 24 2012, 01:54 PM
- - UmaroVI   Yes, you can be an ork, keep your stats where they...   Jan 24 2012, 06:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You do want to consider if getting all that target...   Jan 24 2012, 07:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 24 2012, 12:17 PM...   Jan 24 2012, 07:28 PM
- - Midas   Like TJ said, concept first, number second. Ther...   Jan 25 2012, 05:11 AM
- - Yerameyahu   It's true that many smaller purchases probably...   Jan 25 2012, 05:18 AM


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