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paul_HArkonen
post May 20 2004, 02:28 PM
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reading the descritions for elemental manipulation spells, shouldn't it be possible to target inside a van or somehting, and attack through the windows, I just want to verify that i am correct in using windows or the like to take out automobiles, or the inside of guard houses.
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A Clockwork Lime
post May 21 2004, 04:40 PM
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If he knows where the general area where the target is and can see that destination on the physical plane, an area-effect spell will toast the target as long as the target doesn't move between the time it takes you to shift from Astral Perception to normal vision (Simple Action) and then cast your spell (Complex Action). Since that pretty much assumes the target will have a chance to do something on his phase in between the two you need, it's not guaranteed that he'll be in that exact location.
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- paul_HArkonen   Uses for elemental manipulation   May 20 2004, 02:28 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   You have to be able to see the destination. If yo...   May 20 2004, 02:32 PM
- - Person 404   Hence the popularity (I believe referenced in the ...   May 20 2004, 02:32 PM
- - paul_HArkonen   right, i knew about the tinted windows, part, but ...   May 20 2004, 02:34 PM
- - Nikoli   I'd imagine you'd have to face teh barrier...   May 20 2004, 02:36 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   SR3 p. 124-125 gives you the rules for firing/brea...   May 20 2004, 02:40 PM
- - paul_HArkonen   ok, that makes my life a lot easier, thanks.   May 20 2004, 02:42 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   Oh, and because I missed it when you first mention...   May 20 2004, 03:01 PM
- - Nikoli   So, go for a sonic manip that is designed to shatt...   May 20 2004, 03:02 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Rigger controlled vehicles often plate over the in...   May 20 2004, 03:06 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   No such thing as elemental "sound" in Sh...   May 20 2004, 03:07 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) Rigger controlled vehicles oft...   May 20 2004, 03:08 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   Elemental Manipulations can. They follow the rule...   May 20 2004, 03:09 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Armored windows aren't worth very much if some...   May 20 2004, 03:23 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   Well, save for the whole Power reduction and harde...   May 20 2004, 03:28 PM
- - Apathy   If I remember correctly, can't area effect ele...   May 20 2004, 03:39 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   You could target the vehicle, but it's probabl...   May 20 2004, 03:41 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Apathy) If I remember correctly, can't ...   May 20 2004, 03:51 PM
- - Nikoli   Of course, engulfing a vehicles in flames, melting...   May 20 2004, 04:49 PM
- - Joker9125   If you can see inside the vehicle just cast a forc...   May 21 2004, 10:08 AM
- - lspahn72   QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) You have to be able to se...   May 21 2004, 01:18 PM
- - booklord   Example ------------- An enemy ( who is not astral...   May 21 2004, 03:01 PM
- - Nikoli   I'm thinking E since he can still target where...   May 21 2004, 03:07 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   If he knows where the general area where the targe...   May 21 2004, 04:40 PM
- - booklord   QUOTE If he knows where the general area where the...   May 21 2004, 05:00 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   I stand corrected. I had forgotten about that exc...   May 21 2004, 05:14 PM
- - TinkerGnome   The +2 target modifier only applies to fully physi...   May 21 2004, 05:42 PM
- - A Clockwork Lime   Hence the "I stand corrected" bit. Spel...   May 21 2004, 11:15 PM
- - Zazen   If you subscribe to that particular philosophy at ...   May 22 2004, 02:55 AM
- - booklord   The reason I think the the +2 target modifier migh...   May 22 2004, 03:33 AM
- - Cain   D. Yes, at a penalty of at least +2, or more depe...   May 22 2004, 05:18 AM
- - OurTeam   QUOTE (booklord @ May 21 2004, 08:01 AM) An e...   May 22 2004, 06:13 AM
- - Ezra   An astrally perceiving mage can cast at both physi...   May 22 2004, 06:55 PM


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