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sir fwank
post Sep 6 2003, 01:40 PM
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say Runner is infiltrating random corporate building. Runner is physical masked force 5 with 3 successes, carrying a light pistol w/ 1 extra clip of explosive rounds, and is implanted with various cyberware. He's even got a stole ID card to trick the guard. so he gets in the building flashes his id to the guard and gets waved on. ahead he sees that he has to walk through a combo MAD, Cyberscanner, Chemsniffer. Runner, being naive about magic figures he's good to go and strolls on through the scanner arch. what happens?

personally, i think he trips all three, most likely. i don't think illusion spells cover anything that he is carrying. but is there some illusion spell that i missed or should there be one? and what about spirit concealment, would that work?
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Sunday_Gamer
post Sep 8 2003, 04:58 AM
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Like I said, the way we use it, yes it could definitely alter your DNA but the mage casting the spell would need to know about that sort of stuff. If he was trying to imitate someone else, he would not only need to know a fair bit on DNA but he'd also need to have the subjects precise DNA sequence.

Also, we use mimicry skills as a prereq roll for any mask designed to replicate an existing person, the better the mimicry roll, the closer the match.

So in theory, a mage could give himself the appearance, smell, voice, fingerprint, retinal print, DNA sequencing etc etc of someone else, but he would need:

A good mimicry skill and a hell of a roll.
Working knowledge of the races biology.
More than working knowledge of the races DNA.
A copy of the targets fingerprints, retinal prints and DNA sequencing.

The rolls would be obscene, but in theory, possible.

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- sir fwank   illusion spells and security   Sep 6 2003, 01:40 PM
- - hobgoblin   do the normal checks for those detectors, physical...   Sep 6 2003, 04:49 PM
- - Cain   Which isn't to say some other illusion spell, ...   Sep 7 2003, 08:06 AM
- - hobgoblin   trid phantasm may fool stuff like sight and sound ...   Sep 7 2003, 11:23 AM
- - sir fwank   mmm...trid phantasm forgot about that one.   Sep 7 2003, 03:45 PM
- - Abstruse   Here's a neat idea to take the heat off yourse...   Sep 7 2003, 05:52 PM
- - mayhem   QUOTE (Cain)Which isn't to say some other illu...   Sep 7 2003, 06:26 PM
- - Sunday_Gamer   I'm gonna have to say mask covers most of thos...   Sep 7 2003, 08:06 PM
- - sir fwank   for discussion purposes i'm going to post a fe...   Sep 8 2003, 02:59 AM
- - Raptor1033   i don't think he was trying to use mask to tri...   Sep 8 2003, 03:10 AM
- - KosherPickle   QUOTE (mayhem)QUOTE SR3 p195: The mask spell alter...   Sep 8 2003, 03:10 AM
- - Sunday_Gamer   Like I said, the way we use it, yes it could defin...   Sep 8 2003, 04:58 AM
- - sir fwank   and i thought shadowrun was broken before.   Sep 8 2003, 01:21 PM
- - Sphynx   QUOTE (KosherPickle) Chemsniffers aren't inter...   Sep 8 2003, 04:01 PM
- - The White Dwarf   The spell Physical Mask is cast on the person, not...   Sep 8 2003, 04:19 PM
- - Sphynx   Wrong, Physical Mask is cast "around" th...   Sep 8 2003, 04:59 PM
- - BitBasher   I would allow multi sense illusions to cover any i...   Sep 8 2003, 05:32 PM
- - The White Dwarf   Hmm, point made. Cant really argue with that comp...   Sep 8 2003, 05:34 PM
- - BitBasher   hehe, addition, I would allow "nonstandard...   Sep 8 2003, 05:53 PM
- - sir fwank   QUOTE (BitBasher) Of course this point is moot, ch...   Sep 8 2003, 05:56 PM


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