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Mach_Ten
post Jun 28 2013, 01:02 PM
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as per title, can someone give a brief description of core melee as compared to present situation.

and if there are optional maneuvres available without waiting for WAR!

and that might add some flavour to Non-shootists for upcoming missions characters

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Shinobi Killfist
post Jun 29 2013, 02:23 AM
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Personally I hope they ditch martial arts. I'd prefer a more general concept of maneuvers core to the various close combat skills that don't need to be purchased. Things like throws, locks, aggressive and defensive fighting etc should just be part of the skill like burst fire, full auto, cover fire etc are part of the automatics skill. Make the specialties something simple like striking, subdual, defense.
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post Jun 29 2013, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 29 2013, 04:23 AM) *
Personally I hope they ditch martial arts. I'd prefer a more general concept of maneuvers core to the various close combat skills that don't need to be purchased. Things like throws, locks, aggressive and defensive fighting etc should just be part of the skill like burst fire, full auto, cover fire etc are part of the automatics skill. Make the specialties something simple like striking, subdual, defense.

I am totally with you on this one. A melee system should be a concise collection of very basic maneuvers as an option. In my gaming groups are, myself included, a lot of self defence/ martial arts geeks and the martial arts mechanic (especially counting against qualities in chargen) felt somewhat off sometimes. The only thing that I find it reflected well, was the "cost" of beeing a specialist melee fighter in comparison to beeing a good gunfighter.

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- Mach_Ten   Melee & Martial arts   Jun 28 2013, 01:02 PM
- - Umidori   I too would like to hear about the new melee syste...   Jun 28 2013, 08:14 PM
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- - Shinobi Killfist   Personally I hope they ditch martial arts. I...   Jun 29 2013, 02:23 AM
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