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Ken Takai
post Jul 13 2004, 07:39 PM
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Is possible to use ultrasound vision with the Improved sense adept power?
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post Jul 14 2004, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (Ken Takai)
Is possible to use ultrasound vision with the Improved sense adept power?

The whole notion of PhysAds using ultrasound as an "improved sense" is reawakening memories of a drugged nun attempting to "speak with the dolphins" in "Hudson Hawk."
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- Ken Takai   Ultrasound vision and improved sense adept power   Jul 13 2004, 07:39 PM
- - Phaeton   Take whatever I say as being potentially naive and...   Jul 13 2004, 07:59 PM
- - JaronK   I'd allow it. You can get any sense that...   Jul 13 2004, 08:12 PM
- - Ken Takai   QUOTE (JaronK) I'd allow it. You can get any ...   Jul 13 2004, 09:04 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Actually, this has been discussed in here before, ...   Jul 13 2004, 09:08 PM
- - nezumi   I'd agree with eyeless blond. Technically, yo...   Jul 13 2004, 09:15 PM
- - Ken Takai   I think that an important factor is miss, a factor...   Jul 13 2004, 09:24 PM
- - JaronK   Well, I'd agree it wouldn't be vision, it ...   Jul 13 2004, 10:55 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Actually, this has been disc...   Jul 13 2004, 10:57 PM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (Zazen) There's no official rule, Ken. S...   Jul 13 2004, 11:10 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Ken Takai) Is possible to use ultrasound vi...   Jul 14 2004, 12:55 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I personally would definitely allow someone to tak...   Jul 14 2004, 01:22 AM
- - Da9iel   No technological emitter required; wear a bat. ...   Jul 14 2004, 05:14 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Wear a bat on a bat! ~J   Jul 14 2004, 05:27 AM
- - mfb   i personally don't see ultrasonic emission as ...   Jul 14 2004, 05:45 AM
- - Cain   Call it "echolocation" and you're go...   Jul 14 2004, 06:32 AM
- - Crusher Bob   The 'extra sense' involved would require t...   Jul 14 2004, 10:14 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (JaronK) QUOTE (Zazen @ Jul 13 2004, 05...   Jul 14 2004, 10:44 AM
- - Moon-Hawk   In my game, I allow ultrasound vision as an improv...   Jul 14 2004, 12:48 PM
- - Ken Takai   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) In my game, I allow ultrasound v...   Jul 14 2004, 12:57 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I think it's a difference of how the hardware ...   Jul 14 2004, 01:03 PM
- - Lantzer   I'm comfortable with the notion that there are...   Jul 14 2004, 01:36 PM
- - shadd4d   Look at it the other way around. Bone Lacing cyber...   Jul 14 2004, 01:51 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (mfb) i personally don't see ultrasonic ...   Jul 15 2004, 01:10 AM
- - JaronK   Well, to have thermo vision you need the ability t...   Jul 15 2004, 01:48 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Yes, but none of them require you to emit anything...   Jul 15 2004, 01:55 AM
- - JaronK   If bats do it, I don't see why Adepts can...   Jul 15 2004, 02:17 AM
- - Kagetenshi   And if luminous fish can do it, why can't adep...   Jul 15 2004, 02:18 AM
- - Zazen   Sound dampening certainly isn't a "sense...   Jul 15 2004, 02:26 AM
- - mfb   actually, i allow adepts to buy eyelights, since t...   Jul 15 2004, 02:39 AM
- - JaronK   Well, I'd say biological senses are as opposed...   Jul 15 2004, 02:59 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Zazen) Sound dampening certainly isn't ...   Jul 15 2004, 03:12 AM
- - JaronK   You're right. It's more of an... I don...   Jul 15 2004, 03:40 AM
- - Cain   Just think of it as echolocation. As long as they...   Jul 15 2004, 03:59 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Exactly. An emitter is as much an augmentation of ...   Jul 15 2004, 04:12 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Zazen) Sound dampening certainly isn't ...   Jul 15 2004, 04:45 AM
- - hyzmarca   How about this, adepts with ultrasound vision auto...   Jul 15 2004, 05:51 AM
- - mfb   well, heck, if we're going to raise the price ...   Jul 15 2004, 06:08 AM
- - Kagetenshi   A pity, then, that physad powers only come in incr...   Jul 15 2004, 11:45 AM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (JaronK) Well, to have thermo vision you nee...   Jul 15 2004, 04:44 PM
- - Da9iel   Alright, one of the things I'm seeing here is ...   Jul 16 2004, 06:25 AM
- - JaronK   Why is ultrasound so alien? Blind people already ...   Jul 16 2004, 06:43 AM
- - Da9iel   Maybe because they are already using it for visual...   Jul 16 2004, 06:47 AM
- - JaronK   Perhaps I'd buy game balance... I dunno though...   Jul 16 2004, 06:49 AM
- - Da9iel   Oh, come on! Does everyone have to be a mun[DA...   Jul 16 2004, 06:52 AM
- - Cain   Um, guys? Submarine sonar operators create 3D map...   Jul 16 2004, 07:43 AM
- - Da9iel   First, humans are not whales. Second, some questio...   Jul 16 2004, 08:05 AM
- - JaronK   It's not being a munchkin, it's playing an...   Jul 16 2004, 08:05 AM
- - Da9iel   Sorry JaronK. Please don't be offended. I was ...   Jul 16 2004, 08:07 AM
- - JaronK   Harumph! Of course I knew that! I know e...   Jul 16 2004, 08:09 AM
- - Da9iel   RE: Ultrasound vision and improved sense adept power   Jul 16 2004, 08:12 AM
- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (Da9iel) First, humans are not whales. Secon...   Jul 16 2004, 10:37 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Zazen @ Jul 14 2004...   Jul 16 2004, 01:43 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE First, humans are not whales. No, but the se...   Jul 16 2004, 03:51 PM
- - nezumi   But passive sonar is no longer ultrasound vision/e...   Jul 16 2004, 08:09 PM
- - tjn   Higher frequency is faster IIRC. Therefore it mig...   Jul 16 2004, 08:58 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   So High Frequency Hearing to hear sounds alien to ...   Jul 16 2004, 09:05 PM
- - BitBasher   Original poster: Don't listen to anyone that s...   Jul 16 2004, 09:09 PM
- - Ancient History   I have allowed Ultrasound Vision as an adept power...   Jul 16 2004, 09:12 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   That's a moot point with the power. Improved ...   Jul 16 2004, 09:16 PM
- - Ancient History   Okay, go back and /read/ my post. Essence cost red...   Jul 16 2004, 09:20 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   Read mine as well. Particularly the very first se...   Jul 16 2004, 09:25 PM
- - Jason Farlander   Its not a moot point at all to determine whether b...   Jul 16 2004, 09:38 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey)So High Frequency Hearing t...   Jul 16 2004, 09:38 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   QUOTE (tjn)It comes down to the fact I will not ha...   Jul 16 2004, 09:41 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Sensor: This would be the HF hearing. Emitte...   Jul 16 2004, 09:44 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   Fortunately the power isn't Ultrasound Hearing...   Jul 16 2004, 09:48 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) That's your perogative...   Jul 16 2004, 09:49 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   I had no idea bats and whales have radios installe...   Jul 16 2004, 09:49 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) I had no idea bats and wha...   Jul 16 2004, 09:51 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   Neither are rattlesnakes, but you don't seem t...   Jul 16 2004, 09:52 PM
- - BitBasher   Ultrasound vision is a misnomer, that's not wh...   Jul 16 2004, 09:52 PM
- - JaronK   I had no idea humans had thermo vision. So? Jaro...   Jul 16 2004, 09:52 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) Neither are rattlesnakes, ...   Jul 16 2004, 09:57 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   So, because trolls and dwarves are magical, it...   Jul 16 2004, 10:05 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE So, because trolls and dwarves are magical, ...   Jul 16 2004, 10:11 PM
- - Kagetenshi   He's a fragging Humanis. Don't waste your ...   Jul 16 2004, 10:17 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   So then you are saying that Flare Compensation, So...   Jul 16 2004, 10:17 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) So, because trolls and dwa...   Jul 16 2004, 10:19 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey @ Jul 16 2004, 10:17 P...   Jul 16 2004, 10:22 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   No, Human is a game term as much as Troll and Dwar...   Jul 16 2004, 10:22 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) So then you are saying tha...   Jul 16 2004, 10:23 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   QUOTE (BitBasher @ Jul 16 2004, 04:22 PM) It ...   Jul 16 2004, 10:24 PM
- - BitBasher   My sig gets a lot of referencing considering that ...   Jul 16 2004, 10:25 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   Uhoh, someone else edited a post to add a line of ...   Jul 16 2004, 10:35 PM
- - BitBasher   Way to make a sarcastic remark without actually ad...   Jul 16 2004, 10:39 PM
- - tjn   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) You didn't have to men...   Jul 16 2004, 10:45 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (tjn) Uhm. I'll take No for a thousand,...   Jul 16 2004, 10:57 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Necrotic Monkey) To answer Ken Takai's ...   Jul 16 2004, 11:19 PM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (tjn) [QUOTE=Necrotic Monkey,Jul 16 2004, 04...   Jul 16 2004, 11:34 PM
- - Necrotic Monkey   QUOTE For example, eye guns are certainly technolo...   Jul 16 2004, 11:36 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (JaronK) And we all have ultrasound. It...   Jul 16 2004, 11:40 PM
- - Person 404   If you're going to allow ultrasound vision on ...   Jul 16 2004, 11:45 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (JaronK) And we all have ultrasound. It...   Jul 17 2004, 12:03 AM
- - Cain   404: Sorry, but wrong. Depending on the species, ...   Jul 17 2004, 01:46 AM
- - Kagetenshi   But such a noise source would not be a part of the...   Jul 17 2004, 01:49 AM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (JaronK @ Jul 16 200...   Jul 17 2004, 03:17 AM
- - Kagetenshi   He wasn't talking about thermovision. He was t...   Jul 17 2004, 03:34 AM
- - hyzmarca   This may not carry over to adepts very well, but C...   Jul 17 2004, 03:54 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE But such a noise source would not be a part ...   Jul 17 2004, 04:27 AM
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