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post Jul 15 2007, 07:27 PM
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Why does it only give a -1 AP where a monofilament whip gives a -4? What's the reason?
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Whipstitch
post Jul 16 2007, 03:38 AM
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Oh, I realize wire and stamped metal can be incredibly sharp. That's not the issue. I just think a monofilament whip would be wildly impractical due to its overall lack of mass. It'd be like trying to kill a man with the world's deadliest fishing line. You'd have to wield it more like a flail than anything else. Get the weighted end spinning and try to make sure the other guy gets in its way. Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with monowhips being in the game, since I love the concept and they are so wonderfully cyberpunk. But I do believe that trying to rationalize how powerful they are in relation to other weapons is mostly an excercise in futility. I mean, really now, the monowhip outdamages anything short of the panther cannon or elephant rifle.
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- Hyde   Monofilament sword   Jul 15 2007, 07:27 PM
- - Ddays   It can't cut as deep cause you have the nonfil...   Jul 15 2007, 07:40 PM
- - Whipstitch   Well, first off, a disclaimer: Super fine lightwei...   Jul 15 2007, 07:47 PM
- - FrankTrollman   I think the idea is that people are supposed to us...   Jul 15 2007, 07:50 PM
- - Whipstitch   Tell me about it. My standard "melee" st...   Jul 15 2007, 07:52 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...not a bad technique. As a variant, I could ...   Jul 15 2007, 10:10 PM
- - hyzmarca   I'm just waiting for dikote to come back.   Jul 15 2007, 10:19 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (hyzmarca) I'm just waiting for dikote t...   Jul 15 2007, 10:27 PM
- - Naysayer   The monowhip has (or used to have) this small coun...   Jul 15 2007, 10:30 PM
- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (hyzmarca) I'm just waiting for dikote t...   Jul 15 2007, 10:39 PM
- - MadDogMaddux   I've only ever played 4.0. Explain how the cou...   Jul 15 2007, 11:00 PM
- - Naysayer   If I'm not mistaken, you rolled melee as an op...   Jul 15 2007, 11:05 PM
- - MadDogMaddux   Almost identical to the MW3rd Ed. melee rules. I d...   Jul 15 2007, 11:18 PM
- - Naysayer   MW? Is that MechWarrior?   Jul 15 2007, 11:20 PM
- - MadDogMaddux   Yes. Now know as the Classic Battletech RPG.   Jul 16 2007, 12:22 AM
- - odinson   QUOTE (Naysayer) The monowhip has (or used to have...   Jul 16 2007, 02:08 AM
- - mfb   if it's so easily stopped by armor, then the w...   Jul 16 2007, 02:25 AM
- - Jaid   it could tear off chunks of skin, though... depend...   Jul 16 2007, 03:28 AM
- - Whipstitch   Oh, I realize wire and stamped metal can be incred...   Jul 16 2007, 03:38 AM
- - mfb   sure, it'd hurt, but it'd still be a lot h...   Jul 16 2007, 03:42 AM
- - hobgoblin   I guess that if it managed to slip between two rib...   Jul 16 2007, 03:43 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Whipstitch) I mean, really now, the monowhi...   Jul 16 2007, 03:44 AM
- - Whipstitch   Heh. Screw the defiance ex-shocker. A burst of sti...   Jul 16 2007, 03:49 AM
- - mfb   yeah, but to get to a lung, you'd have to get ...   Jul 16 2007, 03:54 AM
- - hobgoblin   question: how noisy is the defiance compared to a ...   Jul 16 2007, 03:55 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Whipstitch) As for the troll bow, I prefer ...   Jul 16 2007, 03:56 AM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (mfb @ Jul 16 2007, 04:54 AM) there...   Jul 16 2007, 03:57 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (hobgoblin) question: how noisy is the defia...   Jul 16 2007, 04:00 AM
- - hobgoblin   so, shock glove on overload and some in close acti...   Jul 16 2007, 04:03 AM
- - apollo124   As I recall, the monowhip is supposed to be made o...   Jul 16 2007, 04:09 AM
- - Whipstitch   You know Jaid, we really ought to come up with a b...   Jul 16 2007, 04:11 AM
- - DrPeteCastle   speaking of melee and unarmed attacks and their us...   Jul 16 2007, 04:15 AM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Whipstitch) You know Jaid, we really ought ...   Jul 16 2007, 04:24 AM
- - Whipstitch   Melee has its advantages, namely stealth and the a...   Jul 16 2007, 04:29 AM
- - DrPeteCastle   Yeah but if some is at the end of an alley 15 mete...   Jul 16 2007, 04:37 AM
- - apollo124   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminsterfu...inste...   Jul 16 2007, 04:39 AM
- - odinson   QUOTE (mfb) if it's so easily stopped by armor...   Jul 16 2007, 05:07 AM
- - Solomon Greene   QUOTE (Whipstitch) You know Jaid, we really ought ...   Jul 16 2007, 05:21 AM
- - Whipstitch   I like your style solomon. In response to DrPeteC...   Jul 16 2007, 05:44 AM
- - Cadmus   QUOTE (Whipstitch) Tell me about it. My standard ...   Jul 16 2007, 05:55 AM
- - odinson   that is a good attack.   Jul 16 2007, 06:10 AM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Cadmus) QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jul 15 200...   Jul 16 2007, 06:19 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (odinson) Considering how much a cut from a ...   Jul 16 2007, 06:59 AM
- - MadDogMaddux   QUOTE (hobgoblin) <snip> As for the counte...   Jul 16 2007, 07:29 AM
- - hobgoblin   i never said anything about a adept. just take sk...   Jul 16 2007, 04:31 PM
- - Naysayer   I don't see why that would be a problem. ...   Jul 16 2007, 05:19 PM
- - mfb   'ware can't buy you talent (unless you hav...   Jul 16 2007, 05:43 PM
- - Naysayer   It does buy you the ability to move more quickly -...   Jul 16 2007, 05:56 PM
- - knasser   Hmmm. Go back to opposed rolls but use Reaction + ...   Jul 16 2007, 05:59 PM
- - Solomon Greene   Yoink! Good stuff, Knasser.   Jul 16 2007, 06:04 PM
- - mfb   nm, other thread.   Jul 16 2007, 08:15 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jul 15 2007, 10:57 PM) yep...   Jul 16 2007, 08:56 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Guy walks into the middle of the room, jerks in su...   Jul 16 2007, 09:05 PM
- - RedRum   All we really need is a monofilament garrote for t...   Jul 16 2007, 09:12 PM
- - laughingowl   QUOTE (Whipstitch) Oh, I realize wire and stamped ...   Jul 17 2007, 12:28 AM
- - Whipstitch   N/M   Jul 17 2007, 01:30 AM
- - eidolon   For totally bad ass monofilament whip usage, see J...   Jul 17 2007, 03:39 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (DrPeteCastle) speaking of melee and unarmed...   Jul 17 2007, 05:56 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) QUOTE (DrPeteCastle ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:49 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jul...   Jul 17 2007, 07:12 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) QUOTE (knasser @ Jul...   Jul 17 2007, 07:27 AM
- - Hyde   It's just not street anymore, but it seems fai...   Jul 17 2007, 07:49 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jul...   Jul 17 2007, 03:16 PM
- - Eryk the Red   Killfist, his point was that getting up to Magic 8...   Jul 17 2007, 04:08 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) QUOTE (knasser @ Jul...   Jul 17 2007, 04:57 PM
- - Hyde   Well I, for instance, give at least 10 karma/game ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:20 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE Aside from the large amount of build points ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:37 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Hyde) Well I, for instance, give at least 1...   Jul 17 2007, 05:43 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE Aside from the large a...   Jul 17 2007, 05:45 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jul 17...   Jul 17 2007, 06:11 PM
- - Whipstitch   I'd rather save the power points and work on c...   Jul 17 2007, 09:10 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (MadDogMaddux)QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jul 15...   Jul 17 2007, 09:33 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Eryk the Red) Killfist, his point was that ...   Jul 18 2007, 02:25 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) QUOTE (MadDogMaddux)QUOTE (hobgo...   Jul 18 2007, 05:12 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Critias) QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Jul 17 200...   Jul 18 2007, 05:27 AM


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