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Wanderer
post Apr 3 2008, 04:28 PM
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Well, assuming the rules for Dragon PCs aren't one big late April's Fool prank, I have to conclude that by comparison, vampires, wendigoes, nosferatu and banshee PCs ought not to be a taboo any longer. Fair is fair.

I have long craved for rules to play HMHVV-ridden characters (no, ghouls are far too pathetic, they don't matter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) ). Might this be the right time ?
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post Apr 5 2008, 11:42 AM
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Vampires don't need kill people by default. Runners are usually shot on sight, just because. There are dedicated organisation to stop runners from doing what they do (it's called security, btw). And the usual law enforcement is still present of course. So, every runner is a Mary Sue [hermit variant]?

1) Never said that.
2) Because you can interrogate corpses really well. And because you're only after foot soldiers and never, ever want to know who actually sent them. That's not called security, that's stupid.
3) You conveniently ignore other points I brought up, Malicant.

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And yes, slapping someone in the face can have a very interesting effect, if the victim is unable to retaliate. It works on children and grownups alike. Of course you don't understand that, because you see only the physical effect, while I'm talking about psychology.

Uhm, yeah, if you have the time to knock them out, drag them to your cellar and work them over for about half an hour on top of tht, that might work. I didn't say rape was the only way to create that nescessary "intense" bond. I just said it was the fastest. And physically superior as vampy chars tend to be, it's quite a dependable way too.

The vampires from 30 days of night and J.C.'s Vampires were different from the emo stereotype too, but in popular mainstream fiction, that's what Vampires are.

Spike (of Buffy) would be an exception to that rule too.
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- Wanderer   If they can do Dragon PCs...   Apr 3 2008, 04:28 PM
- - Platinum   Shadowrun 4 - the cyber emo game, now with EPIC ar...   Apr 3 2008, 04:56 PM
|- - vladski   QUOTE (Platinum @ Apr 3 2008, 11:56 AM) S...   Apr 4 2008, 03:22 PM
- - quentra   I once played a minor horror in SR3. Just so you k...   Apr 3 2008, 04:59 PM
- - nathanross   Vampires are not a problem at all. Nor are their m...   Apr 3 2008, 05:05 PM
|- - Wanderer   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 3 2008, 07:05 PM)...   Apr 3 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - Platinum   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 3 2008, 12:05 PM)...   Apr 3 2008, 08:35 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Platinum @ Apr 3 2008, 10:35 PM) J...   Apr 4 2008, 03:10 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Wanderer @ Apr 3 2008, 11:28 AM) W...   Apr 3 2008, 07:07 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Wanderer @ Apr 3 2008, 11:28 AM) W...   Apr 4 2008, 04:05 PM
- - Stahlseele   if there are vampires, i want my obsidimen! . ...   Apr 4 2008, 04:15 PM
- - hermit   Obsidimen could just have themselves dikote'd ...   Apr 4 2008, 05:18 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2008, 07:18 PM) Obs...   Apr 4 2008, 05:43 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Actually, they are not. They are part of som...   Apr 4 2008, 06:01 PM
- - ccelizic   You don't often see things that are irredeemab...   Apr 4 2008, 06:20 PM
- - hermit   Even when handled perfectly, a vampire PC is nothi...   Apr 4 2008, 06:35 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2008, 08:35 PM) Eve...   Apr 4 2008, 09:06 PM
- - nathanross   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Apr 4 2008, 12:05 ...   Apr 4 2008, 06:40 PM
- - Stahlseele   QUOTE Out of curiosity Frank, what are your issues...   Apr 4 2008, 07:40 PM
- - hermit   I do have a problem with drakes too, but that...   Apr 4 2008, 08:02 PM
- - Stahlseele   yeah, that's why nobody in our group plays one...   Apr 4 2008, 08:27 PM
- - hermit   Well, I do know some really nice and playable Vari...   Apr 4 2008, 08:30 PM
- - Fortune   I don't want Obsidimen! I don't want T...   Apr 4 2008, 08:30 PM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 4 2008, 03:30 PM) I ...   Apr 4 2008, 08:48 PM
- - hermit   Honestly, I would prefer Obsidimen over vampires.   Apr 4 2008, 08:35 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Same can be said about Elfs, Trolls, Dwarfs,...   Apr 4 2008, 09:50 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2008, 11:50 PM) I d...   Apr 4 2008, 10:49 PM
|- - Kremlin KOA   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 06:50 AM) I d...   Apr 5 2008, 11:07 PM
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- - Stahlseele   in SR3, you buy the shifter attributes separately ...   Apr 5 2008, 12:09 AM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (ccelizic @ Apr 4 2008, 08:20 PM) Y...   Apr 5 2008, 12:42 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE The spotlight whore is not the character per...   Apr 5 2008, 07:03 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 09:03 AM) You...   Apr 5 2008, 10:52 AM
|- - Wanderer   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 09:03 AM) Wen...   Apr 5 2008, 02:48 PM
- - Stahlseele   why did you have to include blade in the emo categ...   Apr 5 2008, 09:19 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   I am not even going to bother replying Hermit, exc...   Apr 5 2008, 09:30 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE why did you have to include blade in the emo...   Apr 5 2008, 10:11 AM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 12:11 PM) Not...   Apr 5 2008, 11:10 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Vampires don't need kill people by defau...   Apr 5 2008, 11:42 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 01:42 PM) 1) ...   Apr 5 2008, 12:01 PM
- - Particle_Beam   Spike was an emo prior to his transformation as a ...   Apr 5 2008, 12:25 PM
- - hermit   Okay, yeah, I was thinking of 2nd season early Spi...   Apr 5 2008, 12:50 PM
|- - Wanderer   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 02:50 PM) Wow...   Apr 5 2008, 02:37 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 02:50 PM) No,...   Apr 5 2008, 03:42 PM
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|- - Adarael   QUOTE (Malicant @ Apr 5 2008, 11:21 AM) I...   Apr 5 2008, 08:37 PM
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|- - Wanderer   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2008, 09:48 PM) Unl...   Apr 5 2008, 09:53 PM
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