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[Chrysalis]

Hi,

I was going through the Shadowrun books and I came up with what seems to be the maximum you can get for charisma based social skills for a starting character.

Attributes
Race elf: Maximum Charisma 8
Exceptional attribute +1
Genetic optimization: +1
Cosmetic surgery +3

Total: 13

Adept:
Kinesics +5
Improved Ability (Social Skill of Choice at rank 6) +3

Positive qualities:
First impression +2


Bioware:
Tailored pheromones +3
Enhanced phermone receptors +2
Vocal range enhancer +1
Cosmetic surgery +3

Software:
Empathy software (Rating 6) +6

Lie detection (Rating 6) +6
Thermographic vision +1

So with empathy software you can get a maximum 35 dice for social skills and with the detect lies software 36.
With the social skill of choice 38/39

Skills:
Con (Cha) RANK 6
Etiquette (Cha) RANK 4
Leadership (Cha) RANK 4
Negotiation (Cha) RANK 4
Intimidation (Cha) RANK 4

Skill specialization +2

Social skill of choice 38/39 + skill+ skill specialization for final total.

Making maximum totals of 46/47


Have I missed something or counted wrong?

-Chrysalis

[Chrysalis]

Updated.

So that would mean that for your social skill of choice there would be maximum totals of 46/47.

[HentaiZonga]

Updated.

So that would mean that for your social skill of choice there would be maximum totals of 46/47.

... all of this is why making most of these Dice Pool modifiers was a really bad idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Tailored Pheremones, Pheremone Receptor, Voice Modulator and Kinesics should all be Attribute augmentations. Most of the rest should be Skill augmentations. That would cap you out at 25 dice, which is more than reasonable.

[Moon-Hawk]

... all of this is why making most of these Dice Pool modifiers was a really bad idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Tailored Pheremones, Pheremone Receptor, Voice Modulator and Kinesics should all be Attribute augmentations. Most of the rest should be Skill augmentations. That would cap you out at 25 dice, which is more than reasonable.

My guess is that they chose to make them bonus dice instead of attribute augmentations because they didn't want all those powers adding to a potential drain stat and astral strength.

[HentaiZonga]

My guess is that they chose to make them bonus dice instead of attribute augmentations because they didn't want all those powers adding to a potential drain stat and astral strength.

Well, they can have it only apply in certain circumstances, like the Bone Density augmentation.

[hyzmarca]

Well, they can have it only apply in certain circumstances, like the Bone Density augmentation.

And if it only applies at certain times then it is a bonus and is not limited by caps.

[HentaiZonga]

And if it only applies at certain times then it is a bonus and is not limited by caps.

Then that's a mechanical failure of the rules.