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post Feb 3 2004, 11:46 PM
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Can you gain any benefits from looking through binoculars while astrally perceiving? I don't see how. The astral isn't amplified through the optics like light are. So here is what I am asking, not opinions, but canon. Is there any canon reference to this?
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post Feb 4 2004, 03:05 AM
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I also say it works.

If you really wanted to get nitpicky you could always point out that glass should be clear if water is clear since they're both transparent fluids. And I'm halfway sure it says somewhere that water is clear.
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- Shadow   Astral Perception and Binoculars   Feb 3 2004, 11:46 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Not exactly. However, according to a response from...   Feb 4 2004, 02:15 AM
- - Jason Farlander   No, you cant. Astral perception is a purely psych...   Feb 4 2004, 02:25 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Jason Farlander @ Feb 4 2004, 10:25 AM...   Feb 4 2004, 02:58 AM
- - Zazen   I also say it works. If you really wanted to get ...   Feb 4 2004, 03:05 AM
- - Fortune   I have no problem with someone looking through the...   Feb 4 2004, 03:35 AM
- - Snow_Fox   The astral plane is seeing life energy. binoculars...   Feb 4 2004, 03:43 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Snow_Fox) The astral plane is seeing life e...   Feb 4 2004, 03:46 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi) Look, you can rationalise it either...   Feb 4 2004, 03:51 AM
- - danbot37   If optics can be used for los for spells, then why...   Feb 4 2004, 03:54 AM
- - Jason Farlander   I'm certainly not ignoring canon rules, and I,...   Feb 4 2004, 03:59 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 4 2004, 0...   Feb 4 2004, 03:59 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi) OK, I meant casting through Binos w...   Feb 4 2004, 04:35 AM
- - Deep Blue   QUOTE If you really wanted to get nitpicky you cou...   Feb 4 2004, 04:37 AM
- - Jason Farlander   Interesting... I guess I just *learned* that somew...   Feb 4 2004, 04:57 AM
- - Zazen   You'll note that I said fluid, not liquid, bec...   Feb 4 2004, 05:04 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 4 2004, 0...   Feb 4 2004, 05:16 AM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE Did you go blind when you astrally perceive?...   Feb 4 2004, 05:53 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi)Did you go blind when you astrally p...   Feb 4 2004, 05:53 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 4 2004, 01:53 PM) QUOTE ...   Feb 4 2004, 06:10 AM
- - John Campbell   I know that you can use those fiberoptic security ...   Feb 4 2004, 06:24 AM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE Also about being effectively Blind if you us...   Feb 4 2004, 06:24 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi)It "aids" astral perceptio...   Feb 4 2004, 06:26 AM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE (John Campbell) I know that you can use thos...   Feb 4 2004, 06:29 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Jason Farlander @ Feb 4 2004, 02:29 PM...   Feb 4 2004, 07:51 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi) No. Actually I'm arguing that i...   Feb 4 2004, 07:58 AM
- - toturi   What I meant was that there's a limit to which...   Feb 4 2004, 09:08 AM
- - Lilt   If you accept the FAQ ruling then you can see thro...   Feb 4 2004, 09:53 AM
- - Prototype   Howdy y'all, I'm here to save the day. Fu...   Feb 4 2004, 11:47 AM
- - toturi   But the binos would enable you to pin point where ...   Feb 4 2004, 12:26 PM
- - Jason Farlander   toturi: Before I discuss this issue any further ...   Feb 4 2004, 02:05 PM
- - Snow_Fox   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Feb 4 2004, ...   Feb 4 2004, 02:40 PM
- - Dax   The only way I could see binoculars helping on the...   Feb 4 2004, 03:37 PM
- - Rev   I once tried to do a glass flowing experiment, and...   Feb 4 2004, 06:41 PM
- - Nikoli   Well folks, it may be time to go back to 1st Ed. f...   Feb 4 2004, 06:57 PM
- - nezumi   The question isn't whether you can cast a spel...   Feb 4 2004, 07:26 PM
- - Shadow   Ok here is what I decided. No. You cannot use bin...   Feb 5 2004, 01:34 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Shadow) Ok here is what I decided. No... [s...   Feb 5 2004, 02:15 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Shadow) Ok here is what I decided. No. You...   Feb 5 2004, 02:28 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 4 2004, 09:28 PM) If norm...   Feb 5 2004, 03:22 AM
- - toturi   Purely mundane objects may be visible on the astra...   Feb 5 2004, 03:45 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (toturi)If astral perception is a purely psy...   Feb 5 2004, 04:12 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm) QUOTE (toturi)If astra...   Feb 5 2004, 05:12 AM
- - mfb   the thing is, binocular lenses twist light. if you...   Feb 5 2004, 05:19 AM
- - Fortune   No-one is disputing whether the lenses can be seen...   Feb 5 2004, 06:09 AM
- - Jason Farlander   I wipe my hands of this debate. I believe everyth...   Feb 5 2004, 07:11 AM
- - Artemis   It always occured to me that when a person split p...   Feb 5 2004, 07:23 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   That is a supported possible viewing method. I wa...   Feb 5 2004, 07:29 AM
- - Artemis   Interesting. Typically our players rarely will clo...   Feb 5 2004, 07:37 AM
- - mfb   fortune, i am debating whether or not the lenses c...   Feb 5 2004, 08:16 AM
- - Artemis   So mfb believes that life energy on the astral pla...   Feb 7 2004, 12:27 AM


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