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sunnyside
post Sep 23 2008, 06:52 PM
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The biggest question I have is if a single burned edge gets them out of the situation or just that shot.

The books example has the player falling into a coma but being able to live to fight another day. However without some extra hand waving getting knocked out often just delays a characters demise by a few turns. Does the edge buy that hand wave? What about situations where they're already trapped by the bad guy and are scheduled for execution shortly and they want out?

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Muspellsheimr
post Sep 24 2008, 12:27 AM
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A better explanation of surviving a head shot would be the bullet is deflected by the skull, riding underneath the skin but above the skull to the back of your head, where it exits. This has happened multiple times in real life - just, I believe, with small caliber arms. I doubt it would be a reasonable explanation for a Barrett 121 shot.
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- sunnyside   What do your players get for their burned edge?   Sep 23 2008, 06:52 PM
- - deek   Nuthin'... as I don't allow it. My hand w...   Sep 23 2008, 06:55 PM
- - JudgementLoaf   Its highly situational, but they usually a get out...   Sep 23 2008, 07:12 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Judgement, may I then ask why you would burn an Ed...   Sep 23 2008, 07:40 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 23 2008, 03:40...   Sep 23 2008, 07:48 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 23 2008, 03:40...   Sep 23 2008, 08:11 PM
- - Tarantula   The character somehow drops "off camera...   Sep 23 2008, 07:55 PM
- - Wesley Street   Depends on the situation. If a PC falls or bleeds ...   Sep 23 2008, 07:56 PM
- - Stahlseele   Boom goes the Bomb, you spend edge to survive the ...   Sep 23 2008, 08:00 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 23 2008, 02:00 PM...   Sep 23 2008, 08:13 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 23 2008, 02:13...   Sep 23 2008, 09:39 PM
- - BullZeye   The only time a player has burned a point of edge ...   Sep 23 2008, 08:05 PM
- - DTFarstar   I was under the impression that critical successes...   Sep 23 2008, 08:54 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Sep 23 2008, 12:54 PM)...   Sep 23 2008, 10:39 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 23 2008, 03:39 PM) The ...   Sep 23 2008, 10:46 PM
||- - Apathy   [wanders in late to conversation] QUOTE (Muspellsh...   Sep 24 2008, 08:24 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 23 2008, 03:39 PM) I ag...   Sep 23 2008, 10:48 PM
- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 24 2008, 12:46...   Sep 23 2008, 10:48 PM
- - Kurious   For my group: A sniper hits you for a total of 25...   Sep 23 2008, 10:55 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 23 2008, 03:48 PM...   Sep 23 2008, 10:56 PM
- - Stahlseele   wasn't there something about edge only being u...   Sep 23 2008, 10:58 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 23 2008, 02:58 PM...   Sep 23 2008, 11:06 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Using Edge is different from Burning Edge. You ma...   Sep 23 2008, 11:01 PM
- - Stahlseele   so there's nothing preventing USE and BURN in ...   Sep 23 2008, 11:02 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Not by RAW.   Sep 23 2008, 11:05 PM
- - Stahlseele   i suddenly understand the whole Mr.Lucky Concept a...   Sep 23 2008, 11:05 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 23 2008, 03:05 PM...   Sep 23 2008, 11:10 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Remove "guaranteed" and I believe it is.   Sep 23 2008, 11:07 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 23 2008, 03:07...   Sep 23 2008, 11:14 PM
- - ElFenrir   I'm in that ''You burn the edge, and l...   Sep 23 2008, 11:07 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Yes, Mr. Lucky relies on 6~8 dice for every test v...   Sep 23 2008, 11:12 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Guaranteed is not implied. It is by default inclu...   Sep 23 2008, 11:17 PM
- - sunnyside   Actually a fair point is the difference between su...   Sep 23 2008, 11:44 PM
- - DTFarstar   Not to be too picky, Kurious, but if the bullet pa...   Sep 24 2008, 12:19 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Sep 23 2008, 05:19 PM)...   Sep 24 2008, 01:07 AM
|- - Kurious   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Sep 24 2008, 01:19 AM)...   Sep 24 2008, 01:13 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   A better explanation of surviving a head shot woul...   Sep 24 2008, 12:27 AM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 23 2008, 07:27...   Sep 24 2008, 12:36 AM
- - Matsci   What do my players get from a point of burned edge...   Sep 24 2008, 01:23 AM
- - DTFarstar   Cain, yes, severing the corpus callosum during sur...   Sep 24 2008, 01:30 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Sep 23 2008, 05:30 PM)...   Sep 24 2008, 01:43 AM
- - DTFarstar   See I thought there had been studies done... somew...   Sep 24 2008, 03:12 AM
- - Cain   Bullet size is one of these weird things. The 7.6...   Sep 24 2008, 03:25 AM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 24 2008, 06:25 AM) Bull...   Sep 24 2008, 10:06 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (BullZeye @ Sep 24 2008, 02:06 AM) ...   Sep 24 2008, 03:23 PM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 24 2008, 06:23 PM) Oops...   Sep 24 2008, 03:45 PM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   I agree with Ryu. Their out, and the other team m...   Sep 24 2008, 04:42 AM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 24 2008, 12...   Sep 24 2008, 07:21 AM
- - Riley37   At a recent session, a bullet-riddled character bu...   Sep 24 2008, 06:08 AM
- - JudgementLoaf   Survival, as always, is questionable in most gunfi...   Sep 24 2008, 06:12 AM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   isn't the conversion the same as caliber = inc...   Sep 24 2008, 12:10 PM
- - noonesshowmonkey   Depending on the type of game, street with tons of...   Sep 24 2008, 05:21 PM
- - Wesley Street   Grow an adorable tail and you can stay in the runn...   Sep 24 2008, 08:47 PM
- - raggedhalo   Players have only burnt Edge twice in my game, bot...   Sep 26 2008, 08:43 AM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   I likewise always make sure edge permanently is re...   Sep 26 2008, 11:40 AM
- - Rad   Possession by a spirit is a good way to handle bur...   Sep 27 2008, 08:10 AM
- - knasser   I have a couple of things to say on this subject. ...   Sep 27 2008, 01:19 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Is a 0.3% chance sufficent for the GM to rul...   Sep 27 2008, 04:41 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 27 2008, 05:41 PM) The ...   Sep 27 2008, 06:38 PM
- - sunnyside   I'm not so sure if it's RAW. But I like t...   Sep 27 2008, 05:57 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (sunnyside @ Sep 27 2008, 06:57 PM)...   Sep 27 2008, 06:41 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Nah, the problem is a player that says ...   Sep 28 2008, 01:05 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 28 2008, 02:05 AM) Peop...   Sep 28 2008, 11:46 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 28 2008, 02:05 AM) IMO,...   Sep 28 2008, 11:54 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE Ah, but there are millions of people playing...   Sep 28 2008, 06:30 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 28 2008, 07:30 PM) Ther...   Sep 28 2008, 09:35 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Heh. Well Google didn't know how many li...   Sep 28 2008, 10:32 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 28 2008, 11:32 PM) Acco...   Sep 29 2008, 05:58 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE But a GM does not have to allow a roll if th...   Sep 29 2008, 06:40 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 29 2008, 07:40 PM) If y...   Sep 29 2008, 09:06 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Knasser, if you do not want to allow a player to b...   Sep 29 2008, 09:37 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 29 2008, 10:37...   Sep 29 2008, 10:51 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (knasser @ Sep 29 2008, 04:51 PM) I...   Sep 30 2008, 07:43 PM
|- - Platinum Dragon   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 1 2008, 05:43 ...   Oct 1 2008, 04:57 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Platinum Dragon @ Sep 30 2008, 09...   Oct 1 2008, 09:39 AM
|- - Platinum Dragon   QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 1 2008, 07:39 PM) Yes, ...   Oct 2 2008, 03:27 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE The rules say don't allow it where there...   Sep 29 2008, 10:05 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 29 2008, 11:05 PM) That...   Sep 29 2008, 11:34 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE If a player attempts something that has a 1,...   Sep 29 2008, 11:22 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 30 2008, 12:22 AM) Out ...   Sep 29 2008, 11:37 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I have never said I disallow a roll. I even,...   Sep 30 2008, 01:25 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 30 2008, 02:25 AM) You...   Sep 30 2008, 07:34 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE I have never said I disallow a roll. I even,...   Sep 30 2008, 01:29 AM
- - knasser   EDIT: Continued... QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 30 2008...   Sep 30 2008, 07:34 AM
- - Rad   Gah, I had to leave work before I could finish my ...   Sep 30 2008, 10:21 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Rad @ Sep 30 2008, 11:21 AM) Knass...   Sep 30 2008, 03:06 PM
- - darthmord   Not getting into the almost flame-war... But 1 in...   Sep 30 2008, 04:19 PM
|- - Apathy   QUOTE (darthmord @ Sep 30 2008, 12:19 PM)...   Sep 30 2008, 04:46 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 30 2008, 12:46 PM) Le...   Sep 30 2008, 07:47 PM
|- - Apathy   QUOTE (darthmord @ Sep 30 2008, 03:47 PM)...   Sep 30 2008, 08:14 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 30 2008, 01:14 PM) As...   Sep 30 2008, 11:34 PM
- - Rad   QUOTE (knasser @ Sep 30 2008, 07:06 AM) T...   Sep 30 2008, 04:26 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Option 1: Allow burning Edge on ridiculously...   Sep 30 2008, 04:49 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Actually, I didn't bring it up before, but wit...   Sep 30 2008, 11:40 PM
- - knasser   There's a whole lot of falsehoods and misconce...   Oct 1 2008, 08:46 PM
- - knasser   Second half of comment... So that just leaves a c...   Oct 1 2008, 08:46 PM
- - MJBurrage   Part of the issue seems to be the word hope, which...   Oct 1 2008, 09:02 PM
|- - Apathy   QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Oct 1 2008, 05:02 PM) ...   Oct 1 2008, 09:35 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE The objection is not one of game balance (or...   Oct 1 2008, 11:59 PM
- - Cain   Once again, everything you mention is already disa...   Oct 2 2008, 04:17 AM
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